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#1 Illmaticnyj
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6.0, 5.5, and 5

Doesnt look good for lair. I hope the game is better then the rating.

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#2 ginglejangle
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old...

and i could care less about reviews.

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#3 bsin94
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Wow, those are really low scores.
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#4 Generalkill8888
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I only care about the ratings on GS, So I will wait until then.
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#5 arturo_ko
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Isaw this coming
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#6 w7w7w7w7w7
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:(
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#8 Illmaticnyj
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Isaw this comingarturo_ko

Same but i never thought this low, maybe a 7 atleast.

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#9 serph-1925
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i dont care what lair gets it can get a 2 for me lol:lol:

has long i know heavenly for will kick ass:oops:

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#10 c0mplex
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i wonder what they didn't like about the game.
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#11 w7w7w7w7w7
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i wonder what they didn't like about the game.c0mplex
yeah, I would really like to read the actual review. EGM seems to really hate one motion sensitive controls, ps3 and wii alike.
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#12 sPOON_f33dU
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well dan douchebag shu and his team hates all ps3 games
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#13 Velric
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Apparently they knocked on the graphics in a part of the review, and if true, makes them lose all credibility.
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#14 sPOON_f33dU
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Apparently they knocked on the graphics in a part of the review, and if true, makes them lose all credibility.Velric

that's dan shu for ya.

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#15 c0mplex
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dan shu is the only one who is really pro-xbox. the rest are pretty big on anything playstation... like Shane Bettenhausen.
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#16 Luxen90
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I dont trust anything in egm because they can give a game a 5 and on another magazine and website the rating is about 8 or higher.
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#17 sPOON_f33dU
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dan shu is the only one who is really pro-xbox. the rest are pretty big on anything playstation... like Shane Bettenhausen.c0mplex

go watch some 1up shows and read egm, most of are extreme xbox and anti sony.

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#18 c0mplex
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[QUOTE="c0mplex"]dan shu is the only one who is really pro-xbox. the rest are pretty big on anything playstation... like Shane Bettenhausen.sPOON_f33dU

go watch some 1up shows and read egm, most of are extreme xbox and anti sony.

i listen to both the EGM Live and 1up Yours podcast every week. i dont see them as extreme fanboys. for example... a lot of them love Stardust HD, and besides Garnett (who really want the game to have a nostalgic feel), all of them love doing Warhawk Wednesdays.

Dan Shu is really hooked on achievements though.

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#19 thedynamite007
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the bad thing about this is this will start a trend that all game reviewers might be influence to give a low score for this game. Guys don't be influence by game reviewers. We all have different taste.
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#20 RoganSarine
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If it's any consoledation... Play Magazine (Whatever that is) gave it a 9/10. In the end... I only trust IGN, Gamespot, and Gametrailers. They seem to be the only sites that are for the most part unbiased. Some games I've noticed people will review it at a 5 but gamespot will give it an 8.5
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#21 c0mplex
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If it's any consoledation... Play Magazine (Whatever that is) gave it a 9/10. In the end... I only trust IGN, Gamespot, and Gametrailers. They seem to be the only sites that are for the most part unbiased. Some games I've noticed people will review it at a 5 but gamespot will give it an 8.5RoganSarine

the problem is that people gauge a review score differently than others.

on the 1up Yours podcast... Shane gave a game a 6, which he said is a good score. but on sites like GS, a 6 is considered a mediocre score.

in the end... people are just way too hung up on numbers. people are bashing EGM for this review without reading what they have to say. pretty fanboyish if you ask me.

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#22 sPOON_f33dU
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[QUOTE="sPOON_f33dU"]

[QUOTE="c0mplex"]dan shu is the only one who is really pro-xbox. the rest are pretty big on anything playstation... like Shane Bettenhausen.c0mplex

go watch some 1up shows and read egm, most of are extreme xbox and anti sony.

i listen to both the EGM Live and 1up Yours podcast every week. i dont see them as extreme fanboys. for example... a lot of them love Stardust HD, and besides Garnett (who really want the game to have a nostalgic feel), all of them love doing Warhawk Wednesdays.

Dan Shu is really hooked on achievements though.

read between the lines, they're covering up their fanboyism.

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[QUOTE="RoganSarine"]If it's any consoledation... Play Magazine (Whatever that is) gave it a 9/10. In the end... I only trust IGN, Gamespot, and Gametrailers. They seem to be the only sites that are for the most part unbiased. Some games I've noticed people will review it at a 5 but gamespot will give it an 8.5c0mplex

the problem is that people gauge a review score differently than others.

on the 1up Yours podcast... Shane gave a game a 6, which he said is a good score. but on sites like GS, a 6 is considered a mediocre score.

in the end... people are just way too hung up on others. people are bashing EGM for this review without reading what they have to say. pretty fanboyish if you ask me.



Or just people to hungup on ratings. Who cares in the end really, if you enjoy it... Kudos to you. If gamespot gives it atleast a 7.5... I'll buy it. If I'm looking forward to a game, I just see if gamespot/gametrailers rates it lower then a 7. If they don't... I think it's worthwhile.
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#25 ModernTimes
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I have always trusted EGM reviews so this is not good news for me. However, before we close the book on Lair lets see what everyone else has to say.
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#26 barom
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that Shane dude is cool dude... was he one of the reviewers?
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#27 junk56
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its fake, theres no proof it was just from a random forum post

some ppl stated tehy gave it 9.0 8.5 and 8.0

and if this were true then blue dragon and lari got the same mark as dynasty warriors gundam

and i doubt it

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#28 Luxen90
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I also saw they rated that blue dragon game 6.5 7.5 6.5. I dont know I just dont trust egm reviews in anything and please dont change ur mind aboutgetting lair because of one review from a magazine.

Edit:Well nevermind since Junk said its fake.

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#29 furtherfan
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is EGM a magazine from the 1-up guys??
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#30 c0mplex
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is EGM a magazine from the 1-up guys??furtherfan

yea... EGM is connected to 1up.

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#31 finalfantasy94
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I never really look into reviews from magazines. I just wait for the web reviews.
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#32 gamer082009
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dan shu is the only one who is really pro-xbox. the rest are pretty big on anything playstation... like Shane Bettenhausen.c0mplex
Ok so everyone that gives PS3 games bad ratings are pro-Xbox? So Gamespot and now EGM are huge Xbox fans that purposefully give PS3 games bad ratings? Come on guys they've been around through alot of game consoles I really think they like all games, but when a game is bad it's bad just deal with it. Genji was the same way..it had potential but it was horrible this may be the same instance. People are taking this way too far..if anyonesays anythingnegative about the PS3 we always here this long list of how they're biased and an Xbox lover. I say to all that disagree with the Lair rating, just wait and see for yourself because EGM actually rates it's games pretty well.
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#34 0rin
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Well, I don't know when most people get their EGM's but I usually get mine around the 10th. So I highly doubt these people have seen the magazine yet.
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#35 Lividrecca
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**** We all believe something without proper facts? I see no link i see no quotes and yet you all say, "I saw this comming"...I've read about 5 articles with hands-on reviews and they were all stunned by the graphics the gameplay with the sixaxis motion sensing was great. The mission were deep, the difficulty was just right so i dunno what you guys think but LAIR is going to be awesome.
Besides all that, it looked so good that sometimes they didn't even focus on the gameplay because they were stunned about it looking this good and yet the PS3 performed it without a single glitch in framerate.

http://www.psu.com/LAIR-Hands-On--Dont-Get-Burned-Preview--a757-p0.php
http://www.pro-g.co.uk/ps3/lair/preview-520.html

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[QUOTE="sPOON_f33dU"]

[QUOTE="c0mplex"]dan shu is the only one who is really pro-xbox. the rest are pretty big on anything playstation... like Shane Bettenhausen.c0mplex

go watch some 1up shows and read egm, most of are extreme xbox and anti sony.

i listen to both the EGM Live and 1up Yours podcast every week. i dont see them as extreme fanboys. for example... a lot of them love Stardust HD, and besides Garnett (who really want the game to have a nostalgic feel), all of them love doing Warhawk Wednesdays.

Dan Shu is really hooked on achievements though.

I listen to 1up. But not EGM. Garnet is my least favorite. Luke used to be (halo fanboy).
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#37 gizmo_logix
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6.0, 5.5, and 5

Doesnt look good for lair. I hope the game is better then the rating.

Illmaticnyj
I'll wait for info on the mag. But if EGM gave a 6, 5.5 and 5. And GamePro gave it a 7.5. And Play gave it a 9.0. Something is fishy.
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#38 DanC1989
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It was never hyped that highly...was it? :(
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#39 zakkro
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It was never hyped that highly...was it? :(DanC1989
I thought it would do better than that :( I don't believe this! :x Guess I'll have to pick up EGM next time I'm out >____>
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#40 Nikolicious
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fake, i see no proof that this is realR-Dot-Yung

Can you be anymore ignorant? Just because you don't want to accept the truth doesn't mean that you can accuse something of being "fake."

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#41 SolidSnake2020
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I'll say it will get 7.5 or 8 here.
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#42 zakkro
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[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]fake, i see no proof that this is realNikolicious

Can you be anymore ignorant? Just because you don't want to accept the truth doesn't mean that you can accuse something of being "fake."

If there's no proof, then yeah, you can accuse something of being fake :|

I know you can't post scans, but if anyone has em, I'd like them to pm me >____>

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[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]fake, i see no proof that this is realNikolicious

Can you be anymore ignorant? Just because you don't want to accept the truth doesn't mean that you can accuse something of being "fake."

Can you be more naïve by just believing everything people say?

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#44 Vojkan80001
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Are you people insane? IT IS FAKE! Where is the proof? Some guy spread that rumor at gametrailers. To be even ridiculous Lair got 6.0 in graphics!?!? How unrealistic is that? 6.0, not 7 or 8 but 6! DONT BE SO NAIVE FOLKS
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#45 Nikolicious
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[QUOTE="Nikolicious"]

[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]fake, i see no proof that this is realLividrecca

Can you be anymore ignorant? Just because you don't want to accept the truth doesn't mean that you can accuse something of being "fake."

Can you be more naïve by just believing everything people say?

Why would anyone go through the trouble to spread such a stupid rumor? I think that most of you guys are upset by the fact that this game didn't rate as highly as you expected it too so you say that it's a fake. I bet if the game scored highly and I said that it was a fake you would all be flaming me right now.

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#46 furtherfan
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Are you people insane? IT IS FAKE! Where is the proof? Some guy spread that rumor at gametrailers. To be even ridiculous Lair got 6.0 in graphics!?!? How unrealistic is that? 6.0, not 7 or 8 but 6! DONT BE SO NAIVE FOLKSVojkan80001

i think it's true mate....

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#47 Vojkan80001
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[QUOTE="Vojkan80001"]Are you people insane? IT IS FAKE! Where is the proof? Some guy spread that rumor at gametrailers. To be even ridiculous Lair got 6.0 in graphics!?!? How unrealistic is that? 6.0, not 7 or 8 but 6! DONT BE SO NAIVE FOLKSfurtherfan

i think it's true mate....

Well show me proof and i will shut my mouth! For this to be even more unrealistic is BLue Dragon pathetic score. Like i said show me proof and i will belive, until than i say this is BS

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#48 Tinyterror
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I have come to the conclusion that reviews are useless. Games are all about prefrence (as are most things in life).I cant tell you how many times I have played a game that got crap reviews and absolutely loved it. Recently (just to give an example) I played Armored Core 4 (which was scored poorly in PSM and almost every other publication I read) and I enjoyed every minute of it. Why trust some person you don't know, who more than likely does not share all you same tastes, to tell you what is good or not. If you are unsure, go rent the game and give it a try, see if you like it, because when it comes down to it a review is just one persons opinion.
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#49 Lividrecca
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[QUOTE="Lividrecca"][QUOTE="Nikolicious"]

[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]fake, i see no proof that this is realNikolicious

Can you be anymore ignorant? Just because you don't want to accept the truth doesn't mean that you can accuse something of being "fake."

Can you be more naïve by just believing everything people say?

Why would anyone go through the trouble to spread such a stupid rumor? I think that most of you guys are upset by the fact that this game didn't rate as highly as you expected it too so you say that it's a fake. I bet if the game scored highly and I said that it was a fake you would all be flaming me right now.

No no no no. Why would some go through the trouble to spreak such a stupid rumor? Well it's the same with paparazi and stuff, they write so many rumors about for example celebrity X had plastic surgery w/e! People just do this it's normal. Besides in this case itcould have been a mad xbox fan trying to crush LAIR. Who knows

All im saying is just don't believe everything you read. Especially not Figures. The review is more important, their arguments, why is it bad, why is it this, why why why. If all the answers to the questions are right in your opinion THEN you can say alright the game is not so good. But just because someone writes "OK LAIR GOT a 6. 5. 6 ITS CRAP" you believe the game is crap?

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#50 Euphanasia
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man that would suck if its true