Even more FFXIII "downgrades"

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#1 thelastguy
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#2 emitsu97
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I'd really like to hear something from SE about this.
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#3 amob
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this is disappointing, but i'm seriously starved of some RPG's. Fallout 3 just wasn't enough.

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#4 Scianix-Black
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Wow, that second shot of Lightning is even worst than the one shown on Kotaku's website...

It almost, almost looks like a PS2 game.

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#5 Furi-Kun
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Hmmm... Square Enix has long sleeves, they must have something up them.

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#6 TriangleHard
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At first, I thought they just added lighting effect and tweaked some design to make it look better, but closer I look I see many small details being taken out (clothing design, floor design, etc)

Well, only thing I can say is... thanks Microsoft.

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#7 sportwarrior
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Those first screen shots have to be prerendered CGI. They're just releasing the same images with in-game graphics.
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#8 Scianix-Black
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Those first screen shots have to be prerendered CGI. They're just releasing the same images with in-game graphics.sportwarrior

I'm pretty sure that's what all the uproar is about.

I don't know if SE ever actually, officially stated this, but I'm assuming that everyone thought the "CGI" were actually in game.

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#9 MusashiSensi
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This to me is nothing. I'm still getting the game & to me rpg's have always been about the story..not the graphics.

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#10 karnis
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i think the second pictures are the 360 version
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#11 Wiiingssbb
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:( not lookin so good

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#12 yokofox33
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This to me is nothing. I'm still getting the game & to me rpg's have always been about the story..not the graphics.

MusashiSensi

Damn straight. It's not like the second pictures are terrible anyway. They're still better than anything I've seen on the PS3 yet, at least in my opinion.

My excitement for the game has not taken the slightest hit. Still need this game terribly.

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#13 pauljames1986
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CGI

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#15 Zidaneski
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True graphics aren't everything, but wwhat I expect from a Final Fantasy game is awesome graphics. However, these screenshots hardly prove anything and I'll just wait for the final release to see if it was really a "downgrade".

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#16 octobermagic
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This to me is nothing. I'm still getting the game & to me rpg's have always been about the story..not the graphics.

MusashiSensi

Well put my friend. The game still looks good graphic wise no matter which screenshot u look at.

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#17 Shad0ki11
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Looks fine to me.

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#18 zephyr12192
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Wow...graphics for me, at least when it comes to the FF series, is a huge part of why i love it so much...and this...just crushes me. Gooh, the screens looks terrible!

Hopefully Versus will keep the great graphics that FF deserves, b/c this is just dissapointing.

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#19 Cross-Edge
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The game is still looking good and I'm highly anticipating it's release. If Square has to start pulling content then I'll start to worry.

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#20 Takuzi
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If they are seriously downgrading the graphics just because Microsoft produced a weak system, I'm really dissapointed in SE.

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#21 Shad0ki11
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If they are seriously downgrading the graphics just because Microsoft produced a weak system, I'm really dissapointed in SE.

Takuzi

The Xbox 360 isn't a weak system. o_o

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#22 Zidaneski
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[QUOTE="Takuzi"]

If they are seriously downgrading the graphics just because Microsoft produced a weak system, I'm really dissapointed in SE.

Shad0ki11

The Xbox 360 isn't a weak system. o_o

People buy it and have to get a new one after a week. The name fits, lol. I really don't expect there to be any difference between the two versions cause if SE runs out of space they would (should) just add more discs.

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#23 1uP_OnYou
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Bummer. S-E = sellout. :(

..What could have been...

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#24 Unknown_Hero3
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Ahh i hope SE goes under after this game..

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#25 Legend_KilIer_
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I would like to say that it's probably SE's fault.

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#26 Eazy1891
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[QUOTE="sportwarrior"]Those first screen shots have to be prerendered CGI. They're just releasing the same images with in-game graphics.Scianix-Black

I'm pretty sure that's what all the uproar is about.

I don't know if SE ever actually, officially stated this, but I'm assuming that everyone thought the "CGI" were actually in game.

thats wat i was thinking

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#27 Shad0ki11
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Ahh i hope SE goes under after this game..

Unknown_Hero3

Square Enix has made some great quality games over the past decade though.

The game industry wouldn't feel the same without Square Enix. :(

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#28 1uP_OnYou
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Has S-E even released a game here in the states for the Ps3 yet...NO! WTH.

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#29 bad_fur_day
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WOW! I'll say it again in this thread. It doesn't look better than Resident Evil 4 on the PS2, minus jaggies.

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#30 Hanabie
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[QUOTE="Unknown_Hero3"]

Ahh i hope SE goes under after this game..

Shad0ki11

Square Enix has made some great quality games over the past decade though.

The game industry wouldn't feel the same without Square Enix. :(

is that because they made the epic ff7?
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#31 Hanabie
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Has S-E even released a game here in the states for the Ps3 yet...NO! WTH.

1uP_OnYou
that's because ps3 sale is the lowest one in this generation. but they cant fool japanese gamers.. i wanna see how japanese gamers ruin SE reputation.
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#32 Unknown_Hero3
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="Unknown_Hero3"]

Ahh i hope SE goes under after this game..

Hanabie

Square Enix has made some great quality games over the past decade though.

The game industry wouldn't feel the same without Square Enix. :(

is that because they made the epic ff7?

I loved Square about 4 years ago...:cry:

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#33 Hanabie
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[QUOTE="Hanabie"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Square Enix has made some great quality games over the past decade though.

The game industry wouldn't feel the same without Square Enix. :(

Unknown_Hero3

is that because they made the epic ff7?

I loved Square about 4 years ago...:cry:

it's time we should put SE down =/ SE has acted very arrogant recently.
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#34 Javieralijandro
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people do know final fantast game cut scenes are never in-game graphics i bet thats rendered.
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#35 Zidaneski
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people do know final fantast game cut scenes are never in-game graphics i bet thats rendered. Javieralijandro

The first two pics look like they are both in-game. However the second set looks like its comparing a CGI shot to a in-game shot which isn't fair.

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#36 lostn
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The lighting looks crap in the second set. And no the first version of each set is not CG. It looks too crappy for CG. If it's CG, I expect it to look Advent Children quality, and it's certainly not there.
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#37 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="Unknown_Hero3"]

Ahh i hope SE goes under after this game..

Hanabie

Square Enix has made some great quality games over the past decade though.

The game industry wouldn't feel the same without Square Enix. :(

is that because they made the epic ff7?

No. It's because they made the entire Final Fantasy series (at least the SquareSoft part of SquareEnix).

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#38 GodofBigMacs
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Noooo!!! WHY!!!!
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#39 lostn
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I don't think the downscaled graphics have anything to do with the 360. The game's earlier build was on a PC (the game was coded for PC to be ported to console later) which is more powerful than the PS3, and the latest build is running on actual PS3 hardware so it doesn't look as good. I am hoping a PC version of the game releases with full quality graphics. I'd buy that but Square, Capcom, Sega, Konami and every other Japanese developer sucks at doing PC games/ports.
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#40 r-teest
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You have to realize that they were developing the game on super beefed up pc's.

when it was time to set the benchmarks for the xbox and ps3, they had to sacrafice some graphical enhancements for frames and what not and having it run smoothly on the consoles.

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#41 Shad0ki11
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You have to realize that they were developing the game on super beefed up pc's.

when it was time to set the benchmarks for the xbox and ps3, they had to sacrafice some graphical enhancements for frames and what not and having it run smoothly on the consoles.

r-teest

All games are developed on PCs (which may or may not be "beefed up")

If they're using a program like 3D Studio Max, translating 3D models into use for PS3 or Xbox360 game engines shouldn't be a problem.

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#42 conquerorsaint
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The Hi-res CGs are only the target renders, similar to when the notorious E3 Killzone 2 trailer didnt match up expectations with the final release(still looked great though). Unfortunately, the graphics are the least of our worries (since SE games tend to always look great anyway), we'll have to worry if we can get a decent story, characters we care about, fun sidequests and memorable, engaging moments. This downhill trend started with FFX-2, then FF12, and has continued on with Crisis Core (what a disappointment). Square Enix sucks!!!
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#43 Hanabie
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[QUOTE="conquerorsaint"]The Hi-res CGs are only the target renders, similar to when the notorious E3 Killzone 2 trailer didnt match up expectations with the final release(still looked great though). Unfortunately, the graphics are the least of our worries (since SE games tend to always look great anyway), we'll have to worry if we can get a decent story, characters we care about, fun sidequests and memorable, engaging moments. This downhill trend started with FFX-2, then FF12, and has continued on with Crisis Core (what a disappointment). Square Enix sucks!!!

i hope ff series will be another mortal combat series... die and rotten
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#44 magicquebec
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thelastguy
WTF, the second screens look WAY better ! WTF are you talking about ??
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#45 Hanabie
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magicquebec
WTF, the second screens look WAY better ! WTF are you talking about ??

u should not be a graphic designer
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#46 Unknown_Hero3
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[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

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magicquebec

WTF, the second screens look WAY better ! WTF are you talking about ??

You blowing us?

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#47 magicquebec
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[QUOTE="magicquebec"][QUOTE="thelastguy"]

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WTF, the second screens look WAY better ! WTF are you talking about ??

u should not be a graphic designer

I am a Graphic Designer, the first screens are not even real footages, they suck, the 3D in the second picks is way more present. The color palette is deeper. Look at the first Picture, the background looks like it's standing up, there's no real depth. Also she looks like a dude in the first screen where she has the sword. STFU if you don't know what you're talking about, can't you see the first screens are made using a 3d drawing software, they are not made for a console version... DAMN !...

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[QUOTE="Hanabie"][QUOTE="magicquebec"] WTF, the second screens look WAY better ! WTF are you talking about ??magicquebec

u should not be a graphic designer

I am a Graphic Designer, the first screens are not even real footages, they suck, the 3D in the second picks is way more present. The color palette is deeper. Look at the first Picture, the background looks like it's standing up, there's no real depth. Also she looks like a dude in the first screen where she has the sword. STFU if you don't know what you're talking about, can't you see the first screens are made using a 3d drawing software, they are not made for a console version... DAMN !...

Don't bust a blood vessel..

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#49 lucasc130
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Again, who cares? It's FF. I'm gettin it. Btw, the first screenshots dont look like ingame, more of a cutscene or something like that to draw attention to the game.
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#50 Unknown_Hero3
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Again, who cares? It's FF. I'm gettin it. Btw, the first screenshots dont look like ingame, more of a cutscene or something like that to draw attention to the game.lucasc130

Dur da dur ;)