Exclusives, exclusives, exclusives.

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#1 ghaleon0721
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There are TONS of thread on here that ask why isSony behind? what can Sony do better? what will make the PS3 sell better? And every single one of them is plagued with self-proclaimed know-it-alls who say that the system needs more exclusive games and it's driving me friggen nuts! Exclusives didn't help the PS1 beat the N64. The cd format with its virtually limitless capacity and its dirt cheap production costs made it more attractive for developers, which meant more games, which sold more systems. Then when it came time for the big studios to publish the big games, it was no contest. They published the game for the system with the HUGE install base. The PS2 beat the Xbox because it came out first and had already established its brand in the market place with teh PS1. The ability to play DVD's out of the box and backward compatibility appealed to consumers. Therefore, the PS2 was a sure bet for developers, hence more games, hence more consoles, hence more games. But it all started with console itself. Now, Sony doesn't have the advantage of being to only established player in the marketplace. Microsoft has done a great job of not completely botching the early release (a la Sega Dreamcast) So the multi-platforming is no surprise. What developer would ignore 10 million xbox 360 gamers? What 3rd party exclusives does Sony have left? All that comes to mind is Final Fantasy and Metal Gear. Both Kojima and Square CHOSE the PS3 because they felt it was a superior system and offered the BEST possible gaming experience for their games. That is Sony's strategy, to offer the best gaming experience. They've made a machine that is pretty awesome and sells at a VERY fair price when you start matching it feature for feature against teh competition. So why would they start PAYING developers to keep a game exclusive? Why? If a game is made to be multi-platform, that means that it is built with the "lowest-common-denominator" in mind. That means you are getting the MINIMUM gaming experience possible. Why would Sony buy that? If a game is a PS3 exclusive, then that means it probably is built to take advantage of the superior power offered by the PS3 and if it was to be ported to another console it would need to be stripped, cut, compressed, and completely ruined. So those games will be PS3 exclusives until someone else makes an equal or better console. Sony doesn't have to pay for that. Sony makes money by charging developers to publish a game on its system. So if sony started paying those same developers, Sony wouldn't make any money. Which means they would stop subsidizing the cost of the consoles. Which means that you will be paying more for your hardware. Then the developer is forced to ignore a market of 10 million gamers and growing, which means that they will start charging you more for games. I said it in another thread. If you think that Sony should pay for exclusives, then you need a damn head x-ray because there is something horribly horribly wrong with you. You're basically saying "Hey Sony, please don't let your console offer anything different from the competition, and charge me more for it"
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#2 linktheworld
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Feel better now that you have that off your chest? That was quite a rant. I agree with you though, so its all good. I personally dont like it when consoles have exclusives, I actually wish PS3 had the Halo series, lots of fun with 8 friends on 2 different TV's trash talking from a room away drunk off their ass. ( For those over the legal age of 21 of course )
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#3 ghaleon0721
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[QUOTE="linktheworld"]Feel better now that you have that off your chest? That was quite a rant. I agree with you though, so its all good. I personally dont like it when consoles have exclusives, I actually wish PS3 had the Halo series, lots of fun with 8 friends on 2 different TV's trash talking from a room away drunk off their ass. ( For those over the legal age of 21 of course )

No I don't feel better. Because when I finished it I looked at another thread and there was yet ANOTHER retard with the IQ of toast saying that Sony should start paying for exclusivses! How can people be so dumb???
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Check out this thread concerning Sony paying the big guns to keep their games exclusive. Basically, they're not, and they are aiming more for smaller, newer devs to create new IPs for the ps3.
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Amen brotha. Plus if Sony is able to get awesome exclusives without paying for them then that says something about what the devs think about the PS3.Just a thought.
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Check out this thread concerning Sony paying the big guns to keep their games exclusive. Basically, they're not, and they are aiming more for smaller, newer devs to create new IPs for the ps3.makingmusic476
Oh you mean like they did with a little mom and pop shop called INSOMNIAC How many Xbox gamers do you think would love to get their hands on Ratchet and Clank?
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Amen brotha. Plus if Sony is able to get awesome exclusives without paying for them then that says something about what the devs think about the PS3.Just a thought.Takiwara
Yes it does say something about the PS3. It says that the BEST developers, making the best games, publish them on the best system.
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[QUOTE="makingmusic476"]Check out this thread concerning Sony paying the big guns to keep their games exclusive. Basically, they're not, and they are aiming more for smaller, newer devs to create new IPs for the ps3.ghaleon0721
Oh you mean like they did with a little mom and pop shop called INSOMNIAC How many Xbox gamers do you think would love to get their hands on Ratchet and Clank?

Read the first post in thread, and you'll understand just how many smaller devs Sony is aiming for. Insomniac is one of many. Ninja Theory, Media Molecule, and many others (possibly Digi-tech now as well) are now making games published by Sony.
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Check out this thread concerning Sony paying the big guns to keep their games exclusive. Basically, they're not, and they are aiming more for smaller, newer devs to create new IPs for the ps3.makingmusic476

Makes perfect sense that's what Microsoft has been doing. A perfect example is little big planet. That game looks awesome. They need to start securing some guys. Like look at Microsoft's game "Portal". Kind of like little big planet for the PS3. I think the future isn't in these on going rehashing series such as DMC, FF, GT, Tekken, etc. It's in new IPs. I mean yeah i'm excited for newer versions of previous series but what was everyones reactiosn to God of War or SoC when it first came out? 

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[QUOTE="makingmusic476"]Check out this thread concerning Sony paying the big guns to keep their games exclusive. Basically, they're not, and they are aiming more for smaller, newer devs to create new IPs for the ps3.Wii26

Makes perfect sense that's what Microsoft has been doing. A perfect example is little big planet. That game looks awesome. They need to start securing some guys. Like look at Microsoft's game "Portal". Kind of like little big planet for the PS3. I think the future isn't in these on going rehashing series such as DMC, FF, GT, Tekken, etc. It's in new IPs. I mean yeah i'm excited for newer versions of previous series but what was everyones reactiosn to God of War or SoC when it first came out? 

Portal is coming out for pc, ps3, and 360, and it is in no way Microsoft's.

I'm sorry, but MS is doing the complete opposite of what Sony is doing. They're spending lots of cash to steal exclusives away from the ps3, and trying to get some former ps3 exclusives as timed exclusives fot the 360. There's even a quote from Bill saying that, "Timed Exclusive is considered exclusive to us." They aren't really focusing on new IPs aside from a few in an attempt to win over the Japanese market (as they are unable to win over actual Japanese devs, for the most part). Look at GTAIV. MS worked so hard to get that game to release sumultaneously for both systems, despites Rockstars love of Sony consoles.

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Exclusives taken away from the PS3 dont bother me as much. Because there will always be a replacement for those exclusives. God of war 3 might be coming out on the PS3 sometime in the future because of this.
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[QUOTE="Wii26"]

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"]Check out this thread concerning Sony paying the big guns to keep their games exclusive. Basically, they're not, and they are aiming more for smaller, newer devs to create new IPs for the ps3.makingmusic476

Makes perfect sense that's what Microsoft has been doing. A perfect example is little big planet. That game looks awesome. They need to start securing some guys. Like look at Microsoft's game "Portal". Kind of like little big planet for the PS3. I think the future isn't in these on going rehashing series such as DMC, FF, GT, Tekken, etc. It's in new IPs. I mean yeah i'm excited for newer versions of previous series but what was everyones reactiosn to God of War or SoC when it first came out?

Portal is coming out for pc, ps3, and 360, and it is in no way Microsoft's.

I'm sorry, but MS is doing the complete opposite of what Sony is doing. They're spending lots of cash to steal exclusives away from the ps3, and trying to get some former ps3 exclusives as timed exclusives fot the 360. There's even a quote from Bill saying that, "Timed Exclusive is considered exclusive to us." They aren't really focusing on new IPs aside from a few in an attempt to win over the Japanese market (as they are unable to win over actual Japanese devs, for the most part). Look at GTAIV. MS worked so hard to get that game to release sumultaneously for both systems, despites Rockstars love of Sony consoles.

Oh didn't know that. It's been mostly advertised for the 360 from what I've seen. I think Blue dragon and Lost Odysessy is pretty impressive from mistwalker. When I think about it now I guess you're right. But still Microsoft did find small companies that did make big hits for their company. But regardless, I prefer what Sony is doing. I'm glad to see new IPs. Microsoft can have many "version #" IPs. 

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Check out this thread concerning Sony paying the big guns to keep their games exclusive. Basically, they're not, and they are aiming more for smaller, newer devs to create new IPs for the ps3.makingmusic476
that's actually pretty smart for sony, to get new smaller developers. with them, they can get a new experience maybe, which can thus make the devs stick with sony if their games go big cuz sony wanted them on the PS3 battle line :D