Explain to me the appeal of trophies.

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#1 VoiceOfPlanet
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I mean, all you get for all that time you spent obsessively finding every hidden collectible and repeating actions until you've done them a predetermined number of times is an imaginary badge that climbs the tallest mountaintop and boldly announces to the world that you played a game way too much.
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#2 Vyse_Legends
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It's a way to declare to the world how little of a life you have.

Sincepeople online don't know you in real life.:P

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#3 ajthelegend
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I mean, all you get for all that time you spent obsessively finding every hidden collectible and repeating actions until you've done them a predetermined number of times is an imaginary badge that climbs the tallest mountaintop and boldly announces to the world that you played a game way too much.VoiceOfPlanet
You either like em or you don't as simple as that...

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#4 189302
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It's just another incentive to play through a game. While I don't obsess about getting all of them, I will try for some depending on how fun they are. Some of them aren't any more cumbersome than playing through a GTA mission.
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#5 zakkro
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I think there's two reasons, might come in tandem, might be one or the either: For one, it gives you bragging rights. Whether you have a trophy for completing a task that was insanely difficult or just having a bunch of trophies, you can brag about 'em. The second reason is that it can give more replay value, which is the reason I ever pay attention to them.
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#6 Chaos_Bladez
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I don't get why people need a freakin' reason to justify trophies. They act like playing games is so productive and that these darn trophies ruin it.
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#7 VoiceOfPlanet
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I think there's two reasons, might come in tandem, might be one or the either: For one, it gives you bragging rights. Whether you have a trophy for completing a task that was insanely difficult or just having a bunch of trophies, you can brag about 'em. The second reason is that it can give more replay value, which is the reason I ever pay attention to them. zakkro
But why would you want to brag about something like killing a certain type of virtual man in a particular way 500 times?
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#8 K1LLR3175
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Cause some people tend to find them fun to unlock. Others like myself really don't care about them.
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#9 Duckman5
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You either enjoy the experience of unlocking them or you do not. There is no trick or gimmick, that's it.
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#10 rjxtian
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For some people, it could just be additional playability. Or, for others it may be recognition, or ego, or a combination of the two.

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#11 raven_squad
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I don't really care about going out of my way to earn trophies, but I can see that they add a level of replayability to your game collection. It's a little more fun to pull a game off the shelf you've already beat, and rather then doing the exact same thing you did the first time, alter the way you play in hopes of earning a trophy. Often leads to new play styles, or the experience to be very different then the first time you played the game.
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I don't get why people need a freakin' reason to justify trophies. They act like playing games is so productive and that these darn trophies ruin it.Chaos_Bladez
brilliant post
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#13 CajunShooter
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It makes the price of the game worth it. Plus running through Uncharted an additional two times once it was patched for trophies after I had already beaten it before trophies, made me realize just how amazing the game really is.

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#14 _Cadbury_
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1. You feel good when the logo pops up with that sound it makes.. 2. It gives people an idea of what your favourite games are (as youve obviously played it a lot.not necessarily obsessively all at once, but over awhile)
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[QUOTE="Chaos_Bladez"]I don't get why people need a freakin' reason to justify trophies. They act like playing games is so productive and that these darn trophies ruin it.johnlennon28
brilliant post

i second that
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#16 BPoole96
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Seriously, another person wanting to know why people get trophies? You make it as if there is something wrong with it. Want to know why I do it? For fun. If I am capable of doing everything on the trophy list, why not just do it? Some stuff may be frustrating and challenging, but that in a way adds to the fun. Not all games have ridiculous trophies that require you to do stupid things in order to get them either.

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#17 Console_Gamer93
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[QUOTE="johnlennon28"][QUOTE="Chaos_Bladez"]I don't get why people need a freakin' reason to justify trophies. They act like playing games is so productive and that these darn trophies ruin it.TrevCubsOr21
brilliant post

i second that

That post is sig worthy.

Although i think playing any game regardless if you like it or not just for tophies is kinda stupid.

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#18 TROD_BING
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i think they are a good way to get new challenges out of games.
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#19 adizorz
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Most of the time they are usless, and are just there to artificially extend the playtime, like get a certainnuber of kills, who gives a fek, sometimes they are kind of novelty like kill x number of enemies with 1 grenade/exploding barrel/nuke that landed but didn't explode, but sometimes, if a game developer uses them properely they can help you find different perspectives on a game.

Like MGS4, it doesn't have trophies but the embles are close enough, most of them are pretty mundane, however the harder ones really change the game make it a much more intense and rewarding experience, aswell as forcing you to use certain gameplay mechanics that in the end add to your entertainment.

I don't think that comparing trophies is the main part, sure interesting to compare, but getting trohpies just so that you can have more than someone else is defeating the point of playing a game in the first place.

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#20 K1LLR3175
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When people take trophies to damn far that is when things get really ugly.
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#21 ShaolinSun
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for me they jus give the game longevity, and give you a sense of you FULLY got your money's worth in fulfilling the game to the fullest and its always fun saying you did something when a couple of your friends couldnt =]
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#22 Ospov
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It enhances replay value for a lot of people. I'm a completetionist and I like to try to finish everything my games have to offer (including trophies) so I feel like I got my money's worth out of a game. Why buy a book if you don't read all the chapters? That's how I see it anyway.

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#23 ColdfireTrilogy
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its when you dont have enough stuff to do with your life so you spend it wasting time accumulating trophies that mean nothing now and in 4 years will not even exist.
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#24 ColdfireTrilogy
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It enhances replay value for a lot of people. I'm a completetionist and I like to try to finish everything my games have to offer (including trophies) so I feel like I got my money's worth out of a game. Why buy a book if you don't read all the chapters? That's how I see it anyway.

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completing the chapters of the book is like finishing a game. comparing trophies to book reading would be as follows: "read chapter 4 5 times without closing the book" "read the last chapter without blinking 16 times" "read the book 30 times for extra ... longetivity?"
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#25 Ospov
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[QUOTE="Ospov"]

It enhances replay value for a lot of people. I'm a completetionist and I like to try to finish everything my games have to offer (including trophies) so I feel like I got my money's worth out of a game. Why buy a book if you don't read all the chapters? That's how I see it anyway.

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completing the chapters of the book is like finishing a game. comparing trophies to book reading would be as follows: "read chapter 4 5 times without closing the book" "read the last chapter without blinking 16 times" "read the book 30 times for extra ... longetivity?"

No, I was saying once you read a book you've done everything there is to do with a book. In a game once you get all the trophies you've generally done all the game has to offer.

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#26 ColdfireTrilogy
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and what im saying is that what did you do before trophies, you beat the game and enjoyed it without the added useless "do said objective on easy, medium, hard, expert" "kill each monster 70 times" All those things do is add opaque objectives for people to beat to feel as though they are getting more out of a game than they really are. If you beat a game you beat it. Its one thing to add hidden Easter eggs or items/events into the game. Its another entirely to add a counter and random objectives that do little more than keep track of an absurd item or event just to tell you that it has been completed.
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#27 Ospov
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What you're saying is ALL trophies are mundane "kill 100 people" and "beat it on easy, medium, and hard" while many games have trophies that encourage people to play different ways or to do something they usually wouldn't do in a game. Granted, there are the annoying grinding trophies, but there are also trophies that are fun to get. Just because you don't have fun getting them doesn't mean other people won't. Since the trophies actually are a part of a game you technically do pay for them. A lot of people want to get their money's worth out of a game and get everything the game has to offer which includes getting the trophies.

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#28 zakkro
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[QUOTE="VoiceOfPlanet"] But why would you want to brag about something like killing a certain type of virtual man in a particular way 500 times?

I meant more like "beating Devil May Cry on DMT mode" (yeah, some people could find it easy, but that game kicks my ass :P). Most trophies I'd say are easy, but there can be some that can be challenging.
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[QUOTE="VoiceOfPlanet"]I mean, all you get for all that time you spent obsessively finding every hidden collectible and repeating actions until you've done them a predetermined number of times is an imaginary badge that climbs the tallest mountaintop and boldly announces to the world that you played a game way too much.ajthelegend

You either like em or you don't as simple as that...

Yes and can we please keep it at that? If you don't find the appeal in them, then f*** off. Not trying to be rude but someone who enjoys getting them doesn't have to explain to you why they do it.
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#30 ocelot562
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I see as nothing other than friendly comp. amongst people in your friends list, Even then I won't play something I don't like just to get them though...

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#31 RenegadePatriot
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I just enjoy them when I earn them, I do not obsess over them.
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#32 The_X_Factor_9
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I enjoy unlocking trophies because it shows that I took the time and effort to complete certain parts of a game. I don't obsess over them (well maybe the Fallout 3 Platinum), but if I love the game, I'll probably try to unlock everything that the game has to offer. Fallout 3 is probably the only game that I'm going to take the effort to Platinum because I love the game and I really hate seeing a big fat "0" in the Platinum trophy column.

I don't see how having trophies is a bad thing in any way.

I think they're good because they allow you and your friends to compare the kinds of games that you play and how much you play them. Gaming is a competitive hobby and nobody likes to see "LEVEL 1- 0 Trophies" next to their name.

If you go out of your way to play crappy games to get trophies on the other hand...well that's your prerogative.

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#33 SnakeBite27
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For me I've always been a Completionist. Even before they had trophies or achievments. Back then, I found all the Stars in Super Mario 64, 100% 2/3 PS2 GTAs, played FFX to death.

Nowadays, trophies are just one more thing I need to do to complete a game. Plus, it helps stretch out a games length for as long as possible, saves money that way.

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When people take trophies to damn far that is when things get really ugly.K1LLR3175
Like when people buy games JUST for the trophies e.g. Hannah Montana. And if they aren't buying that game for the trophies, then they REALLY have a problem...
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[QUOTE="CONMAN999PS"][QUOTE="ajthelegend"]

I mean, all you get for all that time you spent obsessively finding every hidden collectible and repeating actions until you've done them a predetermined number of times is an imaginary badge that climbs the tallest mountaintop and boldly announces to the world that you played a game way too much.VoiceOfPlanet
You either like em or you don't as simple as that...

Yes and can we please keep it at that? If you don't find the appeal in them, then f*** off. Not trying to be rude but someone who enjoys getting them doesn't have to explain to you why they do it.

damn right, annoying as hell when ppl are like "give me a reason not to hate u cos u like something i dont like." how about do it if u like it and get lost if u dont. its like the posts give me a reason why i should buy a ps3, bugger off. www.google.com ftw we are not sales ppl. come here to discuss things we like not defend them.
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#36 M0wen10
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I get trophies for fun. Also it is a way to prove you have completed that game 100% to the world. :)

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#37 Darth_Sibbs
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They're good to enhance replability and essentially a return to a leaderboard from the old arcade days. They're not that great but i don't mind them.
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#38 Ninja_Zombie83
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For me its about playing the game entirley. The game feels unfinished to me if I don't get a plat trophy, but thats only on games I really enjoy. It gives me closure to a game. Its also nice having a task list so I can keep track of what needs to be done. Normally I don't go for trophy's my first playthrough, but I feel like I get my moneys worth when I do everything in the game the developers intended me to experience. Chaos_Bladez said it best when people who don't understand trophies act like it ruins the game. Its not a productive hobby, quit acting like trophies are such a step over the line between a waste of time and totoally justified.
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#39 ryan69969
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It is a natural evolution in game design. Games have gone from being simple, repetitive, and cheaply difficult to being more cinematic, complex, and finite. Along with that, games have included, more and more, unlockables, hidden items, etc. Now, with the onset of online services (PSN, XBL), the trophy just bolsters the overall sense of community by reflecting to which degrees people are enjoying the games--because simply finishing a game nowadays does not mean the same thing that it used to.

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#40 bpw8
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It enhances replay value for a lot of people. I'm a completetionist and I like to try to finish everything my games have to offer (including trophies) so I feel like I got my money's worth out of a game. Why buy a book if you don't read all the chapters? That's how I see it anyway.

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[QUOTE="zakkro"]I think there's two reasons, might come in tandem, might be one or the either: For one, it gives you bragging rights. Whether you have a trophy for completing a task that was insanely difficult or just having a bunch of trophies, you can brag about 'em. The second reason is that it can give more replay value, which is the reason I ever pay attention to them. VoiceOfPlanet
But why would you want to brag about something like killing a certain type of virtual man in a particular way 500 times?

Why would you want to argue about video games in an internet forum? Because people do whatever they like with their free time. It's not like they are using yours for it.
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#42 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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I mean, all you get for all that time you spent obsessively finding every hidden collectible and repeating actions until you've done them a predetermined number of times is an imaginary badge that climbs the tallest mountaintop and boldly announces to the world that you played a game way too much.VoiceOfPlanet

Wow. Spoken like a true non-gamer.

Nobody is forcing you to get trophies or acheievements. You determine your own level of participation. If you don't want added replay value for games, or if you don't like finding all the secrets, then don't.

But please don't come to a GAMING forums, filled with long-time true gamers, telling them they spend too much time playing games they love.

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#43 CraigyM83
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they're kinda cool. they're an extra little layer if you want them to be. i'd never go out of the way to get the extra hard ones whereas I plan on getting the inFamous platinum just so I have one because it's pretty easy, I only need to play through it being evil on hard mode. no biggy is it.
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I mean, all you get for all that time you spent obsessively finding every hidden collectible and repeating actions until you've done them a predetermined number of times is an imaginary badge that climbs the tallest mountaintop and boldly announces to the world that you played a game way too much.VoiceOfPlanet
Using your example, it's the same reason people climb to the tops of mountains and put flags with their names on it... Because it's there. Ultimately both situations are useless and they won't make you immortal or anything, but what else are they going to do with their free time?
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#45 james_pat
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honestly trophies really arent tht important

though i have to say i enjoy getting them and if u really like a game its kinda fun to work toward getting trophies