Faith Restored in Square-Enix?

I must admit.. for a while I had my back turned to square-enix and would only play SquareSoft games..(the older titles). I dont want to jump the gun..But after E3 it seems like I can finally start being hyped for their up coming games? Anyone else think this too?

I'll wait and see for TGS.

FFXIV sounds good and something I sort of wanted to hear.

But it's still not good enough.

First, Square's biggest strength in my memories are their side games. Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Xenogears, Parasite Eve, etc. Original IPs that doesn't have the words "Final Fantasy" was their biggest strength in my mind. That's when Square made true gems.

Also I have not heard enough of Enix side, and Enix seems to be shaky to me right now. Seems like Tri-Ace is breaking away from Enix and they were their biggest strength.

I'll wait and see for TGS.

FFXIV sounds good and something I sort of wanted to hear.

But it's still not good enough.

First, Square's biggest strength in my memories are their side games. Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Xenogears, Parasite Eve, etc. Original IPs that doesn't have the words "Final Fantasy" was their biggest strength in my mind. That's when Square made true gems.

Also I have not heard enough of Enix side, and Enix seems to be shaky to me right now. Seems like Tri-Ace is breaking away from Enix and they were their biggest strength.

TriangleHard

Totally agree, Xenogears and Chrono were both better than any Final Fantasy IMO.

When was it lost? :|Vexx88

Well... After I finished 12 and Crisis core.. was pretty much let down by both. Then remake after remake after remake... then a bunch of games for the other 2 consoles and none for PS3.. I thought the square - sony days were over.. guess I was wrong.

When was it lost? :|Vexx88

When was it lost? :|Vexx88

When Matsuno left.

He was the last remaining talent in Square side of the company.

[QUOTE="Vexx88"]When was it lost? :|Abicus7

Well... After I finished 12 and Crisis core.. was pretty much let down by both. Then remake after remake after remake... then a bunch of games for the other 2 consoles and none for PS3.. I thought the square - sony days were over.. guess I was wrong.

[QUOTE="Vexx88"]When was it lost? :|Nephilim83

Huh? What? where can I find this Presser?

To be quite honest, no. I've completely lost all faith in Square-Enix, and it's going to take a miracle for them to gain it back. We'll see if Versus delivers the goods.For now though, I'll stick with Atlus and the SMT franchise for my RPG fix. :P raven_squad

[QUOTE="Abicus7"]

[QUOTE="Vexx88"]When was it lost? :|Nephilim83

Well... After I finished 12 and Crisis core.. was pretty much let down by both. Then remake after remake after remake... then a bunch of games for the other 2 consoles and none for PS3.. I thought the square - sony days were over.. guess I was wrong.

Only reason FF12 got messed up is because Matsuno didn't have complete control over the project and he left in the middle, where bunch of apes ruined what could've been greatest game ever.

It kills me every day I play that game. You can see all the potential pieces of greatness, but it never comes together. I have not been frustrated with a game like that since FFVIII. Where all the potential remained as potential.

Still, FFXII is fine JRPG and high quality JRPG. Considering what kind of mess the developmental progress was, it is great game and you can tell what a great genius Yasumi Matsuno is.

[QUOTE="Nephilim83"][QUOTE="Vexx88"]When was it lost? :|Abicus7

Huh? What? where can I find this Presser?

[QUOTE="raven_squad"]To be quite honest, no. I've completely lost all faith in Square-Enix, and it's going to take a miracle for them to gain it back. We'll see if Versus delivers the goods.For now though, I'll stick with Atlus and the SMT franchise for my RPG fix. :P CosmoKing7717

[QUOTE="Nephilim83"][QUOTE="Abicus7"]

Well... After I finished 12 and Crisis core.. was pretty much let down by both. Then remake after remake after remake... then a bunch of games for the other 2 consoles and none for PS3.. I thought the square - sony days were over.. guess I was wrong.

TriangleHard

Only reason FF12 got messed up is because Matsuno didn't have complete control over the project and he left in the middle, where bunch of apes ruined what could've been greatest game ever.

It kills me every day I play that game. You can see all the potential pieces of greatness, but it never comes together. I have not been frustrated with a game like that since FFVIII. Where all the potential remained as potential.

Still, FFXII is fine JRPG and high quality JRPG. Considering what kind of mess the developmental progress was, it is great game and you can tell what a great genius Yasumi Matsuno is.

[QUOTE="CosmoKing7717"][QUOTE="raven_squad"]To be quite honest, no. I've completely lost all faith in Square-Enix, and it's going to take a miracle for them to gain it back. We'll see if Versus delivers the goods.For now though, I'll stick with Atlus and the SMT franchise for my RPG fix. :P raven_squad

[QUOTE="CosmoKing7717"][QUOTE="raven_squad"]To be quite honest, no. I've completely lost all faith in Square-Enix, and it's going to take a miracle for them to gain it back. We'll see if Versus delivers the goods.For now though, I'll stick with Atlus and the SMT franchise for my RPG fix. :P raven_squad

[QUOTE="Nephilim83"][QUOTE="Abicus7"]

Well... After I finished 12 and Crisis core.. was pretty much let down by both. Then remake after remake after remake... then a bunch of games for the other 2 consoles and none for PS3.. I thought the square - sony days were over.. guess I was wrong.

TriangleHard

Only reason FF12 got messed up is because Matsuno didn't have complete control over the project and he left in the middle, where bunch of apes ruined what could've been greatest game ever.

It kills me every day I play that game. You can see all the potential pieces of greatness, but it never comes together. I have not been frustrated with a game like that since FFVIII. Where all the potential remained as potential.

Still, FFXII is fine JRPG and high quality JRPG. Considering what kind of mess the developmental progress was, it is great game and you can tell what a great genius Yasumi Matsuno is.

I loved alot of things about 12 too..the hunts / side quests/ scale of the world/ summons all were great to me. It was just the story falling apart at the end and the battles were too repetitive.. The gambits made the battles too non-interactive.

13 Versus is exclusive. Then there's that ridiculous rumor (I hope and pray its true) a 3rd chrono game is in the works. Called "Chrono Break" Then 14 Is technically a PS3 exclusive. I mean ofcourse its on the PC(Its an MMO and 11) as well but so is Final Fantasy 7 and 8 :P But a Question guys....You think Square will finally not charge a subscription fee for 14?Vexx88

13 Versus is exclusive. Then there's that ridiculous rumor (I hope and pray its true) a 3rd chrono game is in the works. Called "Chrono Break" Then 14 Is technically a PS3 exclusive. I mean ofcourse its on the PC(Its an MMO and 11) as well but so is Final Fantasy 7 and 8 :P But a Question guys....You think Square will finally not charge a subscription fee for 14?Vexx88

I wouldnt hold my breath.. But honestly, if this game delivers, I wouldnt mind paying $10.00 a month to play it on my PS3.

13 Versus is exclusive. Then there's that ridiculous rumor (I hope and pray its true) a 3rd chrono game is in the works. Called "Chrono Break" Then 14 Is technically a PS3 exclusive. I mean ofcourse its on the PC(Its an MMO and 11) as well but so is Final Fantasy 7 and 8 :P But a Question guys....You think Square will finally not charge a subscription fee for 14?Vexx88

How can I say this like a gentleman...

**** NO!!

[QUOTE="Vexx88"]13 Versus is exclusive. Then there's that ridiculous rumor (I hope and pray its true) a 3rd chrono game is in the works. Called "Chrono Break" Then 14 Is technically a PS3 exclusive. I mean ofcourse its on the PC(Its an MMO and 11) as well but so is Final Fantasy 7 and 8 :P But a Question guys....You think Square will finally not charge a subscription fee for 14?CosmoKing7717

[QUOTE="CosmoKing7717"][QUOTE="Vexx88"]13 Versus is exclusive. Then there's that ridiculous rumor (I hope and pray its true) a 3rd chrono game is in the works. Called "Chrono Break" Then 14 Is technically a PS3 exclusive. I mean ofcourse its on the PC(Its an MMO and 11) as well but so is Final Fantasy 7 and 8 :P But a Question guys....You think Square will finally not charge a subscription fee for 14?Nephilim83

[QUOTE="CosmoKing7717"][QUOTE="Vexx88"]13 Versus is exclusive. Then there's that ridiculous rumor (I hope and pray its true) a 3rd chrono game is in the works. Called "Chrono Break" Then 14 Is technically a PS3 exclusive. I mean ofcourse its on the PC(Its an MMO and 11) as well but so is Final Fantasy 7 and 8 :P But a Question guys....You think Square will finally not charge a subscription fee for 14?Nephilim83

[QUOTE="Nephilim83"][QUOTE="CosmoKing7717"] IM not quite sure though. I remember Tretton stating "exclusive at launch" during the conference which could lead to it being on 360 also. Oh well never cared about exclusivity (oh god is that a word?) CosmoKing7717

I do believe I heard him say exclusive at launch aswell.... Isn't it up on youtube or something? :lol: Somebody watch it again so we can be certain. raven_squad

On the contrary, after all this, I've completely lost all faith in the mainline FF devs. Everyone else at SE is still in my good books though ^,^

On the contrary, after all this, I've completely lost all faith in the mainline FF devs. Everyone else at SE is still in my good books though ^,^

RurouniSaiyajin

[QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]

On the contrary, after all this, I've completely lost all faith in the mainline FF devs. Everyone else at SE is still in my good books though ^,^

Vexx88

Well, it's just the main numbered FFs and it's only for now. I'm still looking forward to other FF titles like Dissidia: FF, FF Agito XIII and of course my most anticipated RPG of the gen, FF Versus XIII.

[QUOTE="Vexx88"][QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]

On the contrary, after all this, I've completely lost all faith in the mainline FF devs. Everyone else at SE is still in my good books though ^,^

RurouniSaiyajin

Well, it's just the main numbered FFs and it's only for now. I'm still looking forward to other FF titles like Dissidia: FF, FF Agito XIII and of course my most anticipated RPG of the gen, FF Versus XIII.

hosnestly, i feel that SE needs to focus more on smaller rpgs. They have so many other franchises that they neglect like the Chrono series or Bushido Blade. God i would give anything to get my hands on a new Chrono edition.

On the contrary, after all this, I've completely lost all faith in the mainline FF devs. Everyone else at SE is still in my good books though ^,^

RurouniSaiyajin

I'm very interested in Final Fantasy XIV, but a monthly fee will decide whether or not I decide to get it.

Final Fantasy VII on the PSN is a great first step.

Please bring: Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy IX, Vagrant Story, and Parasite Eve to the PSN. Then I'll be VERY HAPPY.

[QUOTE="Vexx88"]When was it lost? :|Nephilim83

Okay... so after hearing of this news and thinking it was a retarded mistake (why did they have to add the number 14 to it? make an original FF MMORPG seperate from the main series!), I finally accepted it since I played and enjoyed much of FFXI. I think it'll be great whether there's a monthly fee or not. But for those who don't want to pay monthly fees, remember that you'll still end up paying some sort of other fee so that the game can be maintained.

Also, for a while I really did lose faith in the company. I was sick of remakes being released for other systems. FF III and FF IV for the DS but not PSP? Why did they bother making anniversery editions if they said they remade III and IV because they were originally on nintendo consoles? What about us fans that want to collect the series and HAVE THEM NUMBERED IN ORDER... You can't collect MMORPG's.... You can get FF 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7 again, and 7 again (hey! 777! I tink i getz it!), 8, 9, 10, 10-2 (wut?), 11, 12, 13, 13 again, and 13 yet again (again... wut?) on the PlayStation consoles and it's becoming a mess for us collectors. I was also sick of the spin-offs and especially the FFVII compilation. I hated the movie. FFX-2's story was a friggin' joke and was just insulting to us fans of FFX. FFVersus XIII? Agito XIII? Can they come up with better titles? Where's the story in FFXII? What the hell were they thinking with the ADB System? If you wanted to fight in real-time without having the menues pause you were stuck scrolling through menues as fast as you could just to cast a single spell. By then you'd have lost half your HP. That was more of a personal beef I had with XII, I like having things constantly moving in battles, even in turn-based rpg's where the characters stay in one spot.

All the ranting aside, there's one thing I can always admit about their series. They are always fun to play. Regardless of flaws with the story or whatever. I always manage to have a good time. So although I rarely get excited for the next new FF game anymore, I still look forward to buying their games once they reach the shelves at my local Gamestop.

Okay... so after hearing of this news and thinking it was a retarded mistake (why did they have to add the number 14 to it? make an original FF MMORPG seperate from the main series!), I finally accepted it since I played and enjoyed much of FFXI. I think it'll be great whether there's a monthly fee or not. But for those who don't want to pay monthly fees, remember that you'll still end up paying some sort of other fee so that the game can be maintained.

Also, for a while I really did lose faith in the company. I was sick of remakes being released for other systems. FF III and FF IV for the DS but not PSP? Why did they bother making anniversery editions if they said they remade III and IV because they were originally on nintendo consoles? What about us fans that want to collect the series and HAVE THEM NUMBERED IN ORDER... You can't collect MMORPG's.... You can get FF 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7 again, and 7 again (hey! 777! I tink i getz it!), 8, 9, 10, 10-2 (wut?), 11, 12, 13, 13 again, and 13 yet again (again... wut?) on the PlayStation consoles and it's becoming a mess for us collectors. I was also sick of the spin-offs and especially the FFVII compilation. I hated the movie. FFX-2's story was a friggin' joke and was just insulting to us fans of FFX. FFVersus XIII? Agito XIII? Can they come up with better titles? Where's the story in FFXII? What the hell were they thinking with the ADB System? If you wanted to fight in real-time without having the menues pause you were stuck scrolling through menues as fast as you could just to cast a single spell. By then you'd have lost half your HP. That was more of a personal beef I had with XII, I like having things constantly moving in battles, even in turn-based rpg's where the characters stay in one spot.

All the ranting aside, there's one thing I can always admit about their series. They are always fun to play. Regardless of flaws with the story or whatever. I always manage to have a good time. So although I rarely get excited for the next new FF game anymore, I still look forward to buying their games once they reach the shelves at my local Gamestop.

Ryusuke_Akihiro

I don't know why some people are complaining about numbering.

FFXIV is numbered that was because it's the next Final Fantasy game. If Square decided to use number on it, there is a reason why they did it (probably buisness reason involved)

Square has done plenty of FF games without numbers. Tactics, Crystal Chronicles, etc.

They added number and that shows they are that confident about the quality of the game and it is part of core franchise and that it is part of the evolution of the series.

Also I thought FFX-2 was wonderful and well made.