FF14 Future?

I notice alot of people are turned off by FF14 being an mmorpg. Given console mmo's aren't too popular; but i for one am hoping it does good. Back when FF11 first came out on the PC it was a fairly succesful mmo. It was also on the ps2 which i believe was sort popular. Then came along WOW and crushed it along with every other mmo on the market.

I thinkff14 has potential to bring a new niche so to speak to consoles. It will bring something that isnew and not oversaturated like fps andplatfomers etc..

Anyone else hoping this game is mildy succesful when it hits? I guess im just a succer for grinding and leveling :)

Two words: monthly fee.

I hope this game eats dirt.

Two words: monthly fee.

I hope this game eats dirt.

Two words: monthly fee.

I hope this game eats dirt.

Scianix-Black

Yeah but when you think about it a small monthly fee of around $14 is a bargain. Compared to shelling out $60+ on other games. Most of the time those games only last a few hours to a few days.

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Two words: monthly fee.

I hope this game eats dirt.

octobermagic

Yeah but when you think about it a small monthly fee of around $14 is a bargain. Compared to shelling out $60+ on other games. Most of the time those games only last a few hours to a few days.

Two words: monthly fee.

I hope this game eats dirt.

Scianix-Black

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Two words: monthly fee.

I hope this game eats dirt.

octobermagic

Yeah but when you think about it a small monthly fee of around $14 is a bargain. Compared to shelling out $60+ on other games. Most of the time those games only last a few hours to a few days.

• Killzone 2
• Resistance
• Socom
• Rainbowsix
• Ghost Recon
• Street Fighter

And ALOT of other games. MMO games do last awhile, but if the game is complete crap then forget about it.

Two words: monthly fee.

I hope this game eats dirt.

Scianix-Black

Games cant eat silly ;)

Ill be willing to dish out the monthly dough if the game actually looks good and is recieved well enough

Screw MMO's. It's not what FF is supposed to be about.nero_rules

Only the creators of FF know what FF is about, not you ;)

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Two words: monthly fee.

I hope this game eats dirt.

Cross-Edge

My thoughts exactly. Take COD for example. $10 for 4 new maps. Its not like the developers have to go back to the drawing board to crate those maps. They were already in the game itself. They just fix it up for multiplayer and boom DLC lets charge em $10. Mmo's on the other hand need the constant server maintainence.

Yeah the game will prob cost $60 when it hits but it a one time fee with a small monthly fee. No dlc crap and i for one know i'd be saving a ton in the long run if I play this game constantly like how i used to play WOW. I just look at the montly fees in terms of the long run compared to buying new games all the time.

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Two words: monthly fee.

I hope this game eats dirt.

Cross-Edge

And yet all these other developers can do this for free?

Square-Enix has two major blockbusters coming up in their Final Fantasy series, a bunch of mediocre games that are going to sell anyway simply because of the words"Square-Enix" on the box, a PSP Final Fantasy game, a few franchises on the DS and yet they still have the nerve to charge me $14 a month after an initial $60?

No.

DLC is fine. Even overpriced DLC, or DLC that that's hidden on the disc is better than charging me a monthly, or even annual, fee just to play the game I already bought.

[QUOTE="Cross-Edge"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Two words: monthly fee.

I hope this game eats dirt.

octobermagic

My thoughts exactly. Take COD for example. $10 for 4 new maps. Its not like the developers have to go back to the drawing board to crate those maps. They were already in the game itself. They just fix it up for multiplayer and boom DLC lets charge em $10. Mmo's on the other hand need the constant server maintainence.

Yeah the game will prob cost $60 when it hits but it a one time fee with a small monthly fee. No dlc crap and i for one know i'd be saving a ton in the long run if I play this game constantly like how i used to play WOW. I just look at the montly fees in terms of the long run compared to buying new games all the time.

$10 for new maps is nothing. I can CHOOSE to buy those new maps or not. You know what the difference is between CoD and an MMO?

Whether or not I buy DLC doesn't affect whether or not I can play. If I don't buy the map pack, I can still play the game, but if I don't pay a monthly fee, I can't play the $60 game I just bought.

And look at Guild Wars. They don't charge anything for their online.

Why are you defending the people who are stealing your money? Oh, right, you played WoW... that makes sense.

$14 a month is a bargain to someone like you.

I'm guessing the biggest complaints branch from people that lack the financial support to pay nominal monthly fees.Cross-Edge

They branch from people who don't see whatever it is other gamers see in gaming that's worth an additional +$168 a year.

I'm guessing the biggest complaints branch from people that lack the financial support to pay nominal monthly fees.Cross-Edge

It would appear so, some are even surprised that S-E is charging fee's even though 11 had them and... well, S-E is S-E, they over price alot of their crap.

I'm guessing the biggest complaints branch from people that lack the financial support to pay nominal monthly fees.Cross-Edge

You might not be getting "DLC" to buy for an MMO but you have to remember expansion packs which are just as bad as DLC

[QUOTE="Cross-Edge"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Two words: monthly fee.

I hope this game eats dirt.

Scianix-Black

And yet all these other developers can do this for free?

Square-Enix has two major blockbusters coming up in their Final Fantasy series, a bunch of mediocre games that are going to sell anyway simply because of the words"Square-Enix" on the box, a PSP Final Fantasy game, a few franchises on the DS and yet they still have the nerve to charge me $14 a month after an initial $60?

No.

DLC is fine. Even overpriced DLC, or DLC that that's hidden on the disc is better than charging me a monthly, or even annual, fee just to play the game I already bought.

I won't be getting it. I can't stand monthly fees to play a game. The same reason I didn't play the last online one.

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

[QUOTE="Cross-Edge"] There's something that irritates me. Complaints about fees. It's these same fees that keep the servers operational, and up-to-date; and let's not forget consistent DLC. Cross-Edge

And yet all these other developers can do this for free?

Square-Enix has two major blockbusters coming up in their Final Fantasy series, a bunch of mediocre games that are going to sell anyway simply because of the words"Square-Enix" on the box, a PSP Final Fantasy game, a few franchises on the DS and yet they still have the nerve to charge me $14 a month after an initial $60?

No.

DLC is fine. Even overpriced DLC, or DLC that that's hidden on the disc is better than charging me a monthly, or even annual, fee just to play the game I already bought.

Donations =/= fees.

You see, if FFXIV relied on on donations, then I'd support it, but it doesn't. It relies on a fee that you are required to pay in order to play.

especially Versus 13.K1LLR3175

wat?!?!

[QUOTE="Cross-Edge"]I'm guessing the biggest complaints branch from people that lack the financial support to pay nominal monthly fees.-Oath

It would appear so, some are even surprised that S-E is charging fee's even though 11 had them and... well, S-E is S-E, they over price alot of their crap.

It's all because of Square. I prefered Enix, but they aren't as good as since the merger, IMO.

Is it for certain that there will be a monthly fee? I did a quick google search and there was no solid confirmation. If there is, then screw it. If not, then I'd give it a go.

Is it for certain that there will be a monthly fee? I did a quick google search and there was no solid confirmation. If there is, then screw it. If not, then I'd give it a go.

vicekingz

THere isn't solid proof yet, but we all know it'll cost us monthly fees.

I will love SE regardless. Final Fantasy allows me to breathe!

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

[QUOTE="Cross-Edge"]I'm guessing the biggest complaints branch from people that lack the financial support to pay nominal monthly fees.Phoenix534

It would appear so, some are even surprised that S-E is charging fee's even though 11 had them and... well, S-E is S-E, they over price alot of their crap.

It's all because of Square. I prefered Enix, but they aren't as good as since the merger, IMO.

This is probably one of the most refreshing statements Ive heard in a while..... as far as the preferring Enix thing goes, as I agree ;). But the blame doesnt fall on just Square or just Enix for their horrible buisness decisions, its both of them. They are both VERY money hungry companies, before the merge they were both very remake happy, that paved the way for their current remake and money obsessions.

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Two words: monthly fee.

I hope this game eats dirt.

octobermagic

Yeah but when you think about it a small monthly fee of around $14 is a bargain. Compared to shelling out $60+ on other games. Most of the time those games only last a few hours to a few days.

your logic aint right here....suure some games dont last long but then lets talk about the ones that do....you only buy that once.....maybe not MMO but if it has online capabilities you can come back again and again for free.....pay 60 dollars once and thats over with...multiply 14 by 12....yeah big number at the end of the year sorry im not going to pay that...theres other things i have to pay for monthly and a game isnt going to be one of them sorry...

do i think FF14 is going to be good? yes... will i get it since it has a monthly fee? no.... if it is only 60 bux and after that free will ilook into it? oh hell yes!!!

i dont get games that i have to pay for after im already buying it once when i dont get that much in return for my additional money being paid....a reason i never got into WOW...a reason i never got into XBL...

if you buy a game for 60 and it only lasts a few hours or days than thats your fault

I'm looking forward to it. I actually enjoyed FFXI before it made me crazy, so I bet 14 will improve on it. I like the fact there is more emphasis on single player as well.

[QUOTE="Cross-Edge"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

And yet all these other developers can do this for free?

Square-Enix has two major blockbusters coming up in their Final Fantasy series, a bunch of mediocre games that are going to sell anyway simply because of the words"Square-Enix" on the box, a PSP Final Fantasy game, a few franchises on the DS and yet they still have the nerve to charge me $14 a month after an initial $60?

No.

DLC is fine. Even overpriced DLC, or DLC that that's hidden on the disc is better than charging me a monthly, or even annual, fee just to play the game I already bought.

Scianix-Black

Donations =/= fees.

You see, if FFXIV relied on on donations, then I'd support it, but it doesn't. It relies on a fee that you are required to pay in order to play.

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

It would appear so, some are even surprised that S-E is charging fee's even though 11 had them and... well, S-E is S-E, they over price alot of their crap.

-Oath

It's all because of Square. I prefered Enix, but they aren't as good as since the merger, IMO.

This is probably one of the most refreshing statements Ive heard in a while..... as far as the preferring Enix thing goes, as I agree ;). But the blame doesnt fall on just Square or just Enix for their horrible buisness decisions, its both of them. They are both VERY money hungry companies, before the merge they were both very remake happy, that paved the way for their current remake and money obsessions.

True. Also, it's great to see another Enix preferer.

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

[QUOTE="Cross-Edge"] Excuse me; I don't mean ANY disrespect, but that's a weak argument. Those "free" MMO's littered throughout the internet rely HEAVILY on donations, and without these donations there wouldn't be enough finances to further support operations.Cross-Edge

Donations =/= fees.

You see, if FFXIV relied on on donations, then I'd support it, but it doesn't. It relies on a fee that you are required to pay in order to play.

Relying on donations does seem to be the route to go, but donations can only carry you so far. Think of it this way. That nominal monthly fee is ensuring you that the servers are operational, well maintained, and up-to-date not to mention it's funding the developer to develop more content. That's all I'm getting at. Otherwise you are absolutely right.

Holy crap... wait, what?

I'm... right? You gotta be screwing with my head right now... no one ever says that on the internet. Ever.

Are you a female or do you just actually understand what I'm saying? Or both? Wow, I didn't even think people like you existed on the internet... I always picture an egotistical nerd behind the other keyboard, but someone who's willing to admit when someone else is right?

I never thought I'd see the day... and don't mistake my astonishment for mockery, because it's not. Far from it.

But, I digress... I'm just not going to buy it. Fee, donation, whatever - I wasn't ever really interested in Final Fantasy XIV to begin with.

...I just like to argue.

Two words: monthly fee.

I hope this game eats dirt.

Scianix-Black

[QUOTE="Cross-Edge"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Donations =/= fees.

You see, if FFXIV relied on on donations, then I'd support it, but it doesn't. It relies on a fee that you are required to pay in order to play.

Scianix-Black

Relying on donations does seem to be the route to go, but donations can only carry you so far. Think of it this way. That nominal monthly fee is ensuring you that the servers are operational, well maintained, and up-to-date not to mention it's funding the developer to develop more content. That's all I'm getting at. Otherwise you are absolutely right.

Holy crap... wait, what?

I'm... right? You gotta be screwing with my head right now... no one ever says that on the internet. Ever.

Are you a female or do you just actually understand what I'm saying? Or both? Wow, I didn't even think people like you existed on the internet... I always picture an egotistical nerd behind the other keyboard, but someone who's willing to admit when someone else is right?

I never thought I'd see the day... and don't mistake my astonishment for mockery, because it's not. Far from it.

But, I digress... I'm just not going to buy it. Fee, donation, whatever - I wasn't ever really interested in Final Fantasy XIV to begin with.

...I just like to argue.

[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

[QUOTE="Cross-Edge"] You're right!

Relying on donations does seem to be the route to go, but donations can only carry you so far. Think of it this way. That nominal monthly fee is ensuring you that the servers are operational, well maintained, and up-to-date not to mention it's funding the developer to develop more content. That's all I'm getting at. Otherwise you are absolutely right.Cross-Edge

Holy crap... wait, what?

I'm... right? You gotta be screwing with my head right now... no one ever says that on the internet. Ever.

Are you a female or do you just actually understand what I'm saying? Or both? Wow, I didn't even think people like you existed on the internet... I always picture an egotistical nerd behind the other keyboard, but someone who's willing to admit when someone else is right?

I never thought I'd see the day... and don't mistake my astonishment for mockery, because it's not. Far from it.

But, I digress... I'm just not going to buy it. Fee, donation, whatever - I wasn't ever really interested in Final Fantasy XIV to begin with.

...I just like to argue.

Good deal.

Well, it was a pleasant conversation.

I am off to challenge other points and piss people off!

-wooooosh-

P.S. -Welcome to the PS3 forums.

I lost complete interest in the game when "Online" appeared below the title in the E3 trailer debut.Flame_Blade88

Which was probably a good thing. If they announced that they were working on a real Final Fantasy XIV when none of the Final Fantasy XIII games have been released, I know I'd be mad.

Yeah im with u, i want it 2 be pretty good....