Final Fantasy 13 graphic quality issue.

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#1 Xjner
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Well we all know that this game will be on the xbox 360 aswell as the PS3 but seeing as how i play both systems it is concerning me on how good the quality will be on the xbox.

FF13 looks just about as good as MGS4 and they had to use the dual layered blu-ray for it.

Now thats where my question comes in do you guys think that the quality of the xbox360 version will go down or be on par with the PS3?

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#2 IppotheFighter
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360 ruined everything.
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#3 Xjner
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360 ruined everything.IppotheFighter

Yea that is true i wounder if we would have seen a much larger & higer graphical version if we did not have the restriction put on by xbox.

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theoretically if they maxed out the ps3 (which they haven't maxed out the processing power just the blue ray disc game sizes) then the 360 wouldn't be able to come close. as it stands i think the ps3 versions maybe a little prettier and fit on one disc. i think the 360 version will come close (and the average person probably won't be able to tell the difference) however you will have like 6 dvd9's for the xbox version.
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#5 aznfool07
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Blu-ray had nothing to do with graphics. Also, they plan on finishing the PS3 version first then making the 360 version afterwards.
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#6 deactivated-58319077a6477
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Blu-ray had nothing to do with graphics. Also, they plan on finishing the PS3 version first then making the 360 version afterwards.aznfool07

They are making it for PC too.

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[QUOTE="aznfool07"]Blu-ray had nothing to do with graphics. Also, they plan on finishing the PS3 version first then making the 360 version afterwards.Star650

They are making it for PC too.

after the 360 news, that doesnt affect me at all
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#8 Happy_Schman
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Its being made on the PC first then ported to the consoles. This doesn't mean it will come out for PC first, just that they started development of the game on that platform before the consoles.
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Its being made on the PC first then ported to the consoles. This doesn't mean it will come out for PC first, just that they started development of the game on that platform before the consoles.Happy_Schman

you got a link?

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Its being made on the PC first then ported to the consoles. This doesn't mean it will come out for PC first, just that they started development of the game on that platform before the consoles.Happy_Schman


All games are made on the PC first...
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#11 deactivated-58319077a6477
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[QUOTE="Happy_Schman"]Its being made on the PC first then ported to the consoles. This doesn't mean it will come out for PC first, just that they started development of the game on that platform before the consoles.supa_badman

you got a link?

You can find it at G4 another member posted it earlier.

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#12 Happy_Schman
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http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53828

"[Final Fantasy XIII] is being built on PC, where it's actually functional," producer Yoshinori Kitase said Square Enix's E3 press conference, according to Nvidia's Nzone. "We're still focusing on making it work on PS3, so it's difficult to know how long the process of taking it to 360 will take."

Dead Rising was developed on the PC then ported to the 360 where it remained. So this doesn't mean that FF is also coming to the PC.

Final Fantasy might get ported to the PC or it might not. Devil May Cry 4 and Lost Planet were ported but Dead Rising wasn't. Other Final Fantasy games that were ported to the PC in the past were VII, VIII and XI.

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"[Final Fantasy XIII] is being built on PC, where it's actually functional," producer Yoshinori Kitase said Square Enix's E3 press conference, according to Nvidia's Nzone. "We're still focusing on making it work on PS3, so it's difficult to know how long the process of taking it to 360 will take."

Dead Rising was developed on the PC then ported to the 360 where it remained. So this doesn't mean that FF is also coming to the PC.

Happy_Schman

So its built on the PC and not for the PC?

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I dont know if its true, but during an interview, an square rep said that even though both versions are going to be the same, the 360 one will be slightly graphically inferior since they are trying to work out space issues and how to compress the stuff.
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#15 z4twenny
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^ all games are built on pc's/workstations and then optimized for the specific systems they go onto.
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I dont know if its true, but during an interview, an square rep said that even though both versions are going to be the same, the 360 one will be slightly graphically inferior since they are trying to work out space issues and how to compress the stuff.kenshinhimura16

I don't think that's true. Also, the worst that could happen for the 360 version is that it has multiple discs. No one said FF13 is going to take up 25-50 GB either.

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#17 Happy_Schman
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The worst that could/has happened is that PS3 owners have to wait for the 360 version to be completed before the game is sold.

"We're still focusing on making it work on PS3, so it's difficult to know how long the process of taking it to 360 will take."

They haven't even finished with the PS3 version yet, and once they do PS3 owners still won't be able to play it yet.

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#18 Red_26
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[QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"]I dont know if its true, but during an interview, an square rep said that even though both versions are going to be the same, the 360 one will be slightly graphically inferior since they are trying to work out space issues and how to compress the stuff.aznfool07

I don't think that's true. Also, the worst that could happen for the 360 version is that it has multiple discs. No one said FF13 is going to take up 25-50 GB either.

well all the game needs to take up is 9 gigs and bam another disc

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#19 hazelnutman
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Without going into that much detail:

First they make it for PS3.

Then they port it to 360.

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#20 kenshinhimura16
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Without going into that much detail:

First they make it for PS3.

Then they port it to 360.

hazelnutman

which is also the best way to design multiplatform games, only that here, it will be a pure port.

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Well we all know that this game will be on the xbox 360 aswell as the PS3 but seeing as how i play both systems it is concerning me on how good the quality will be on the xbox.

FF13 looks just about as good as MGS4 and they had to use the dual layered blu-ray for it.

Now thats where my question comes in do you guys think that the quality of the xbox360 version will go down or be on par with the PS3?

Xjner

360 cant handle the quality that the ps3 would have had if it stayed exclusive, but since it is multi-plat, im seeing the ps3's visual quality sink a bit to allow 360 version to perform

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#22 Yimbie
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360 I believe will only be slightly if at all really, inferior in graphical quality as compared to the PS3 version. The 360 will just have multiple discs basically. Nothing really dramatic.
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#23 Swift_Boss_A
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360 version hasn't even begun yet, so far SE is sole importance is to get the game running on PS3 and ready for launch in Japan. The game will still use PS3's architecture well.
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#24 aznfool07
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360 version hasn't even begun yet, so far SE is sole importance is to get the game running on PS3 and ready for launch in Japan. The game will still use PS3's architecture well.Swift_Boss_A

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#25 Symphonycometh
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Without going into that much detail:

First they make it for PS3.

Then they port it to 360.

hazelnutman
And that's all that matters. =D
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#26 Keasy4
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they said 2 different set of groups of their developers are doing the game for each system..
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#27 konradak
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Does it really matter? You'll never know how the game "would've looked" had they stayed PS3 exclusive, so the version you get on the PS3, whether it's better than the 360's or not, is the best it is. The game is going to play EXACTLY the same and I thought graphics weren't one of the biggest factors in games? Or wait, am I just a real gamer? :O

Anyways, the only things I see that will be different will be the 360 version is going to have slightly worse, nothing big or epic, graphics, or maybe some frame rate issues. Other than that it will be exactly the same (not including the # of disks, but even that isn't a big deal seeing as how I'm not lazy and I switch disks everyday at least once or twice to play different games.)

So please, let us 360 gamers, those who want to play video games for their entertainment value, story, etc, enjoy one of the best JRPG series and you can enjoy it in all its glory on your PS3.

BTW, I fully support both consoles, just cannot afford a PS3 at the current time and since I'm leaving for the Air Force, I see no reason to purchase one atm.

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[QUOTE="Happy_Schman"]
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"[Final Fantasy XIII] is being built on PC, where it's actually functional," producer Yoshinori Kitase said Square Enix's E3 press conference, according to Nvidia's Nzone. "We're still focusing on making it work on PS3, so it's difficult to know how long the process of taking it to 360 will take."

Dead Rising was developed on the PC then ported to the 360 where it remained. So this doesn't mean that FF is also coming to the PC.

aznfool07

So its built on the PC and not for the PC?

Yes, like most games. People should understand that almost all (if not all) developers build their games on PC, because thats where their tools and engine are.

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Anyways, the only things I see that will be different will be the 360 version is going to have slightly worse, nothing big or epic, graphics, or maybe some frame rate issues. Other than that it will be exactly the same (not including the # of disks, but even that isn't a big deal seeing as how I'm not lazy and I switch disks everyday at least once or twice to play different games.)

konradak

The complaint about multidisc is not about being lazy, it's about the high risk of disk scratches. Just one discs needs to be scratched and you will probably need to buy another copy.

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#30 G-Legend
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If you look online and stuff you'll find that Square Enix is actually still working on the PS3 version and priotirzing that version first. So the game won't be dumbed down. and they won't start the 360 version until the PS3 one is done. The 360 version will be the lesser version.
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#31 shroom76
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no... they will jsut have multiple discs. they arent afraid to do that, lost oddesy had 3 discs. im sure ff13 will be 3 or 4 also.

so the quality will be the same probably, some people will probably try to argue the 360 version looks better even because some people think stuff on the 360 looks better because of the lighting or anti aliasing and what not, but they will be the same game for sure

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#32 _Area51
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The game is going to play EXACTLY the same and I thought graphics weren't one of the biggest factors in games? Or wait, am I just a real gamer? :O

konradak

Nah, that's just what 360 owners tell themselves to feel better about owning an inferior system ;)

J/k man.

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#33 konradak
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[QUOTE="konradak"]

The game is going to play EXACTLY the same and I thought graphics weren't one of the biggest factors in games? Or wait, am I just a real gamer? :O

_Area51

Nah, that's just what 360 owners tell themselves to feel better about owning an inferior system ;)

J/k man.

Lol maybe. But I like my 360 and its graphics just fine :)

[QUOTE="konradak"]

Anyways, the only things I see that will be different will be the 360 version is going to have slightly worse, nothing big or epic, graphics, or maybe some frame rate issues. Other than that it will be exactly the same (not including the # of disks, but even that isn't a big deal seeing as how I'm not lazy and I switch disks everyday at least once or twice to play different games.)

Krigon

The complaint about multidisc is not about being lazy, it's about the high risk of disk scratches. Just one discs needs to be scratched and you will probably need to buy another copy.

I understand what you mean, but if SE takes care of their fans than they'll figure out a way to put the disks in the case so they are safe. Hopefully not too many people (You know there will be some) are dumb and throw their CD's around until they can't play the last disk of the game. Lol.

Either way, I don't think the PS3 owners really need to worry about FFXIII coming to the 360. Doesn't look like SE is looking to dumb down the game, which makes no sense to me why they would, and I don't think the graphics will suffer either. Just buy the game and enjoy it on whatever system you got it for :)

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#34 itwiz90
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The PS3 should prevail in this category. The GlitchBox 360 doesn't have the configuration of the PS3 and cannot handle the load. But it stll should look good on the GlitchBox 360.

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#35 zaphod_b
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Blu-ray had nothing to do with graphics. Also, they plan on finishing the PS3 version first then making the 360 version afterwards.aznfool07

More disc space = uncompressed textures, so yes, it does.