Final Fantasy: The Complete Collection

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#1 headbanger1186
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Ok, I know this may have possibly been posted before, but I have not found it and it needs to be at least addressed again. I gind myslef growing ill of only seeing one psone game being released a week on PSN. Don't get me wrong FF7 was my dream come true when they released it in June. I just have been studying my blue ray discs etc since i just got a ps3 and have been pondering... Why can't they do it? Blue ray is the most superior disc form media i have ever seen and they would have no problem transferring FF1-12 (with the exception of 11) on to a blue ray or two if they had to.

Which arises a couple of questions...is it just because they want more money and could get their money betterby releasing the psone format for 9.99 a pop, and digital versions of the ps2 for 14.99 or 19.99 a pop? I would be much more satisfied as a consumer to even bay as high as 80 for something like that. Or is it due to alot of developers still afraid of taking that gamble for the ps3 leap? I know its expensive to develop I'm just thinking too much today.

But I would respect SE so much for a Final Fantasy: The Complete Collection release, and I personally think it would sell millions!

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#2 randino84
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i think its because that would end up being expensivethe FF crowd is kinda iffy. some people like one game more than another in the series. myself for example i like 7,8,9,and 10 thats it so i wouldnt want to pay alot of money for the whole collection then i can just get those games for cheaper individually

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#3 headbanger1186
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Yeah i was definitely a psone guy. But if they charged a reg price 59.99 I would jump at it and would be endless gameplay for me but yeah i guess that would be asking too much i just dont really understand :(

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#4 Jaysonguy
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I would be much more satisfied as a consumer to even bay as high as 80 for something like that

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Wait, you'd want them all for 80 dollars?

So you'd be satisfied if you were ripping them off?

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#5 miltpauris
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Well, this seems like a nice idea, but I highly doubt that something like this wold happen. At first, that would kill the sales of rest of the FF games, and just imagine, how much it would cost ! :shock:

I think they would rather release all of them on PSN...

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#6 randino84
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if it would cost that much i would buy it too but the problem is i think it would be more then 60 bucks. because if you think about it FF7 is $10 alone on the psn store so i would assume 8 and 9 would cost that much as well. then 10 and 12were ps2 games so they would charge more for those. then you have all the original ones that came before 7. i can see square overpricing the whole collection very easily

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#7 gamenerd15
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Square is not going to put all the games on one disc, when they can sell each individual one on the DS for $40. Chrono Trigger barely has anything new over it's original release on the Super Nintendo and they still charged $40. The first 3 final fantasies are not really worth playing nowadays. 4-7 were the best ones. 8 was too difficult for even hardcore gamers and so casual gamers would not be into it. A lot of people also do not like 8 as well. 9 was cool but a lot of people did not play it because of the PS2 launch. Also most of the FF games can be bought and already have been on other systems. The PS1 has ever game except Final Fantasy 3 (***) If you own a PS2, you can practically play them all by buying FF origins, FF Chronicles, FF anthology with getting the others individually. I say once they stop making FF, if ever, they should put all the games on one disc. If they did not make anothe FF game after 13, I could not care. The series has become like the simpsons. It is still cool but you can tell it has run it's course.

JRPG's need an overhaul anyway. The storyline is always about a kingdom with a princess, or some industrial setting and you are the hero that comes into contact with other travelers and somehow you get an airship and save the world from this one evil guy that can blow up the world with just using his toe nail.

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#8 MAILER_DAEMON
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If they put them all on one disc, they would be ports, not emulated versions. I doubt they'd want to put all of that work into making it.
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#9 azzezino
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It's a good idea but they'll probably not do it because they'd profit more selling them as digital downloads.
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#10 ryangcnps2xbox
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Japanese RPGs do not need to be changed. I would much rather have a turn based rpg over an action rpg. I treasure FF 7, 8, 9 and 10. Also, 8 was not too difficult by any means. Not all of them are based on princesses. FF 7, 8 and 10 had nothing to do with kindoms or princesses. I would love to see maybe a couple of box sets come out like ff 1-3, 4-6, 7-9, and 10 10-2 and 12 in a pack. 3 packs could be priced better and like others said gives some choice.

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#11 headbanger1186
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[QUOTE="headbanger1186"]

I would be much more satisfied as a consumer to even bay as high as 80 for something like that

Jaysonguy

Wait, you'd want them all for 80 dollars?

So you'd be satisfied if you were ripping them off?

No, you just misunderstood. Considering besides the digital download for the PSN as far as playstaion consoles goes they aren't pulling in any money or revenues for those titles through playstation besides ff7 that they released. And it was an idea, which they could see it as a service to the fans to release an entire compilation and charging 20 dollars above regular new PS3 title. But instead, i will have to sit back and see that I would at least fork out 120 dollars minimum if they released them all as DD. No I never stated that I would love to rip them off, I had owned all these titles at one point and time and it would save me HDD space considering FF 7 was 1.3 GB. They do not make money from titles like FF7 except from DD, because when a game store sells one used the profits go straight to the seller. Just don't make me come off as sounding like a greedy and careless person thanks.

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#12 headbanger1186
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and once again when i said they don't make money from titles i was referring to the ps ones and a few others since they are no longer in print of course

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#13 headbanger1186
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Japanese RPGs do not need to be changed. I would much rather have a turn based rpg over an action rpg. I treasure FF 7, 8, 9 and 10. Also, 8 was not too difficult by any means. Not all of them are based on princesses. FF 7, 8 and 10 had nothing to do with kindoms or princesses. I would love to see maybe a couple of box sets come out like ff 1-3, 4-6, 7-9, and 10 10-2 and 12 in a pack. 3 packs could be priced better and like others said gives some choice.

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I completely agree, most of what that guy you were referring to was making statements merely on opinion. It is kinda sad though, I see where RPGs are taking a turn for. The last excellent TB RPG I played was Lost Odyssey, which had Sakaguchi behind it, and Uematsu providing music, So of course it was delivered flawlessly to me :)
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#14 FFuematsufan
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because they would want to get as much money from the franchise as possible. dragon warrior/quest i can see though since it's not as big as final fantasy here in the states.

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#15 Maximus923
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I would only buy such a product if it included 1-6, or if I could buy them seperately.

I don't really care for 7-12 on account that 1. I hear enough about them from people all over the internet to satisfy me enough to never play them again and 2. I see no problem with releasing 7-9 on PSN and leaving 10 and 12 alone. If they released 10-12 on PS3 Blu-ray I would probably buy it anyway just to experience it again, but it doesn't seem like something they should, or would ever, do.

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#16 Rakuho
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wouldn't it be easier (and less expensive) to release all of them via PSN store? and if we ever get the PS2 emulator update, then we might even see 10 and 12 on there... but i guess if SE would make a limited amount of copies and ask for a relatively acceptable price, then they could probably sell some copies just because of the FF brand... (well, at least the hardcore collectors would jump on it right away)... It doesn't seem like an entirely smart venture (if SE did decide to partake in it, that is), but if FF13 and 13v turn a real nice profit (and just create some nice long-lasting buzz in general)... releasing something like the FF ultimate collection in the following season (or earlier) wouldn't sound so strange... well, maybe not a repackaging of ALL FF games, but at least some of the earlier ones (and maybe they can even use the DS versions for FF3 and 4 or something)
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#17 gamenerd15
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Japanese RPGs do not need to be changed. I would much rather have a turn based rpg over an action rpg. I treasure FF 7, 8, 9 and 10. Also, 8 was not too difficult by any means. Not all of them are based on princesses. FF 7, 8 and 10 had nothing to do with kindoms or princesses. I would love to see maybe a couple of box sets come out like ff 1-3, 4-6, 7-9, and 10 10-2 and 12 in a pack. 3 packs could be priced better and like others said gives some choice.

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You misinterpreted what I said and took things word for word I said princesses or industrial themed stuff, meaning one or the other not both. Yuna might not have been a Princess but she was summoner/priestess and she had guardians and was in a way treated like a princess. FF7 and 8 both had industrial like themes.Mako Reactors andall of those urban futuristic towns. We have seen it time and time again. 1-3 are way too small to waste disc space on. They are NES games, they don'tneed to have their own discs. The same with 4-6. They are SNES games, they are too small to put on a disc. The sonicgenesis collection has 50games on it andthatcan fit on a regular DVD disc and you want them to waste blu ray on 3 games a piece?.

Just buy a Super Nintendo or get PS1 games if you want turn based battle RPG's. No they are not bad, but from NES-PS2, there were an abundance of those games. The last turn based RPG I played that was good, was shadow hearts because it gave you different moves and you could combine things with characters to create combos. Developers need to start experimenting and trying new things, not stick to the old formula all the time. It does not bother me that there is an RPG drought this generation most of the ones out there for the newer systems are just copycats of older games. Lost Odyssey was nothing but FF 10 exploration with FF 4 gameplay + FF8 trigger hit attack. I know it was from the same guy that did a lot of the FF's but seriously, what an old hat that game turned out to be.

I would rather have a Square Enix collection that had all 8-32 bit games on it put into a collection. FF 1-9, FF Mystic Quest, FF Tactics, Secret of Mana,Seiken Densetsu 3,Legend of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Dragon Warrior 1-6, Bahamut Lagoon, Treasure Hunter G Chrono Trigger, ChronoCross, Romancing Saga 1-3, Saga Frontier 1 and 2, Xenogears, Parasite Eve 1 and 2.

Since they already started putting FF7and Tactics on the PSN and the Japanese store also has FF8 and 1-2, I doubt that a hard copy collection will come any time soon if at all. I am actually surprised square let FF Tactics and FF7 go for $10, when they could have charged $20 and it would have sold just as well. FF Tactics was hard to findbackin the late PS1/early PS2 days. My friend bought a copy of tatics in2001 for like $45 dollars. The game was almost 4 years old aroundthat time and it still was almost full price. FF13 inJapan will cost 9,500 yen or whatever, which is about 95 dollars in American money. That is a lot of money for agame that is not a special edition.

What would be cool is since third parties are multiplatforming games anyway, they should all team up and make their own digital store and put all the old classics into that. Sony and MS could keep their own stores and add in the third party store that is separate from their own. I guess that would ruin exclusives as a whole for everyone though, but it is ending up that way anyway. Namco, would have their own section, Capcom would have thiers, Square would have thiers

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#18 Eazy1891
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i would love to see a FF collection...but i would expect they fix it up and give it all better graphics and all that to do that...and i doubt that all 1-12 would fit on one blu-ray disc not blue ray

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#19 jkhd831
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Lol tht would be liek 1000 hours. an i'd be fine with FFX, X-2, and XII being on one blu-ray and the rest on psn.

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#20 gamenerd15
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They could fit them all on one blu ray. 1-6 done even add up to half a Gig if that. 7-9 are about a gig and half a piece more or less. 10-12 not counting 11 are what 4GB's piece? That is only about 14 Gigs of space. It does not even fill one single layer of blu ray.

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#21 good_sk8er7
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I would buy a FF complete collection as long as it was under $150.

There would be so many hours of gameplay there lol

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#22 yokofox33
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If anything they should split them up. Have a collection for 1-6, 7-9 (maybe FF Tactics, too), and then one for 10, 10-2, and 12. That would make a lot more sense. Perhaps sell the PS1 collections for 40-50 bucks each, and then the PS2 version for 50-60 bucks.

That way people could pick and choose what collections they want and reduce their spending as opposed to be forced to buy all of the games at a high price tag. The odds of them doing this though is probably slim.

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#23 AlienOverlord
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I don't think offering them all for $60 would be a bad idea for Square. How many people are going to download every single game? Sure they can get $10 just for FF7, but not eveyone likes to download games, some people can't and most people wouldn't buy more than 2 or 3 of them from PSN. If you package them all and charge $60 then anyone who would have downloaded 2 or 3 seperately will most likely buy the bundle because it will seem more appealing since they can try those games they wouldn't have bought seperately.

The biggest problem I can see with this idea is that Square would have to spend time making the games work on PS3 and maybe even polishing them up a little.

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#24 Garudo
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dun wori..they will hv things sorted out soon..u'll never know what a businessman is thinking friend
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#25 Rush2k
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I'd buy it. :)
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#26 headbanger1186
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Which brings up another point for me. SE wouldnt really be getting ripped off in the whole deal. Take a look at lesser grossing companies that could use the money as well doing the same. I'm sure people didn't complain when Sega released their Ultimate Genesis Collection with over 40 games and charged 29.99 for it. Sega made less than a dollar a game for that. Or when Capcom decided to release a complete Mega Man Compilation for 19.99 which they would have made way more selling individually. I just have to say that each of those respected titles are being RE-released, so they have already grossed millions etc from them and will still make millions by doing a service to the fans!

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#27 headbanger1186
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also SE has grossed and is worth more than Capcom and Sega. look it up

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#28 KillerWabbit23
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Most of us have already gotten a good majority of them through some console or another (FF1 was released on PSone, NES, GBA, and PSP!)

But, this would be a good idea... on PSN.

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#29 randino84
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If anything they should split them up. Have a collection for 1-6, 7-9 (maybe FF Tactics, too), and then one for 10, 10-2, and 12. That would make a lot more sense. Perhaps sell the PS1 collections for 40-50 bucks each, and then the PS2 version for 50-60 bucks.

That way people could pick and choose what collections they want and reduce their spending as opposed to be forced to buy all of the games at a high price tag. The odds of them doing this though is probably slim.

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that would make more sense then a complete collection this is true but like i said in a earlier post the FF crowd is kinda iffy. you could put 7-9 and 10-12 on seprate discs and id buy them but i wouldnt buy 1-6 because im only interested in experiencing 4 and 6 so why shouldi pay for the other games. and thats just me, im sure theirs FF fans with tons of diffrent tastesthat dont like one game or another so ithink that wouldnt bea very successful plan forSE. I rather they release everthing on PSN and let fans pick and choose which ones they want and release 10-12 on bluray because i think those would take up too much space on my PS3 =)