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#1 GrimMcSlam
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Is anyone else very stoked about this game? Apparently, the "darkest" FF game yet, and so I read also the most violent and bloody..

Anyhow, I still haven't found a release date yet, does anyone have an idea?

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#2 Shirokishi_
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The dark. mature theme gave me hype for this game.

The fact that its being developed in the gameplay vein of KH nearly took all that hype away.

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#3 nyc05
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I guess I'm interested in it, but I can't really be excited about something I've heard/seen so little about.

I'll await more info before I determine my feelings on Versus.

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#4 nightshade869
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Yeah I still need to beat FFXIII before I get excited for this one lol
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#5 yokofox33
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I'll be getting it for sure, but it just seems a little corny from what I've seen. I have a feeling the game is going to try to be so "cool" and "badass," but just fail at it. Still, I'm sure it will be at least a solid game.

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#6 oajlu
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does it rated M? if not, it's not going to be much different than previous FF

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#7 Gue1
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Yeah, I'm hyped too because Nomura already confirmed that the game will have towns, NPC's and everything what FFXIII lacked. Even a huge world map like the old FF games (prior X). I think this just confirms that FFXIII was gimped...

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#8 Shad0ki11
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It's being released tomorrow.

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#9 ElxMexican
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I can't really say anything until I see some gameplay of this. I saw gameplay graphics and they look amazing, but no combat system yet. So far it just looks more like a movie than a game. Well, I await a gameplay video of some sorts for now..

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#10 NaveedLife
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Yeah, I'm hyped too because Nomura already confirmed that the game will have towns, NPC's and everything what FFXIII lacked. Even a huge world map like the old FF games (prior X). I think this just confirms that FFXIII was gimped...

Gue1

That is great news! Where did you hear this? The battle system isn't really what turns me away from FF XIII, but rather no towns! I loved towns and world maps lol. I realize FF:X was pretty linear (I loved the game) but it had towns and a good feel to it.

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#11 juden41
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The dark. mature theme gave me hype for this game.

The fact that its being developed in the gameplay vein of KH nearly took all that hype away.

Shirokishi_

For real?

I actually find the gameplay aspect intriguing. I've always thought Final Fantasy could do well with a real time combat system, and now that it's here, I'm really stoked for the game.

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#12 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

The dark. mature theme gave me hype for this game.

The fact that its being developed in the gameplay vein of KH nearly took all that hype away.

juden41

For real?

I actually find the gameplay aspect intriguing. I've always thought Final Fantasy could do well with a real time combat system, and now that it's here, I'm really stoked for the game.

Kh was a button masher with leveling....

If you know how to press X you pretty much beat the game.

If Square Enix wants to keep my respect and money they better not taint the future of the series with KHs shallow gameplay.

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#13 Prinze
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I've been stoked for versus since the original trailer! I can't wait to actually see some in-game footage. 8)

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#14 LoG-Sacrament
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now that ffxiii has released, i would expect more information (including a release date) at either e3 or the tokyo game show. i know that SE put atleast some of its vs resources on getting xiii out sooner and theyve likely been holding out on real information because they didnt want to steal xiii's thunder (errr...lightning?).
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#15 Elian2530
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="juden41"]

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

The dark. mature theme gave me hype for this game.

The fact that its being developed in the gameplay vein of KH nearly took all that hype away.

For real?

I actually find the gameplay aspect intriguing. I've always thought Final Fantasy could do well with a real time combat system, and now that it's here, I'm really stoked for the game.

Kh was a button masher with leveling....

If you know how to press X you pretty much beat the game.

If Square Enix wants to keep my respect and money they better not taint the future of the series with KHs shallow gameplay.

KH gameplay is going to kill it.. ugh
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#16 frostybanana
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[QUOTE="Elian2530"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="juden41"]

For real?

I actually find the gameplay aspect intriguing. I've always thought Final Fantasy could do well with a real time combat system, and now that it's here, I'm really stoked for the game.

Kh was a button masher with leveling....

If you know how to press X you pretty much beat the game.

If Square Enix wants to keep my respect and money they better not taint the future of the series with KHs shallow gameplay.

KH gameplay is going to kill it.. ugh

I actually disagree with this. While I absolutely HATE KH and all it's campy Disney crap, the style of fighting was well designed. And my understanding is it's an action RPG. If that's the case, i want to see what they can do with a grown up version of KH's gameplay.
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#17 frostybanana
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[QUOTE="Elian2530"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="juden41"]

For real?

I actually find the gameplay aspect intriguing. I've always thought Final Fantasy could do well with a real time combat system, and now that it's here, I'm really stoked for the game.

Kh was a button masher with leveling....

If you know how to press X you pretty much beat the game.

If Square Enix wants to keep my respect and money they better not taint the future of the series with KHs shallow gameplay.

KH gameplay is going to kill it.. ugh

I actually disagree with this. While I absolutely HATE KH and all it's campy Disney crap, the style of fighting was well designed. And my understanding is it's an action RPG. If that's the case, i want to see what they can do with a grown up version of KH's gameplay.
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#18 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="nyc05"]

I guess I'm interested in it, but I can't really be excited about something I've heard/seen so little about.

I'll await more info before I determine my feelings on Versus.

Well... This, I suppose.
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#19 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="juden41"]

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

The dark. mature theme gave me hype for this game.

The fact that its being developed in the gameplay vein of KH nearly took all that hype away.

For real?

I actually find the gameplay aspect intriguing. I've always thought Final Fantasy could do well with a real time combat system, and now that it's here, I'm really stoked for the game.

Kh was a button masher with leveling....

If you know how to press X you pretty much beat the game.

If Square Enix wants to keep my respect and money they better not taint the future of the series with KHs shallow gameplay.

If there's a menu and different catorgories for different spells and items, in game, then it really doesn't qualify as a 'button masher'.
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#21 blaze000119
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The dark. mature theme gave me hype for this game.

The fact that its being developed in the gameplay vein of KH nearly took all that hype away.

Shirokishi_
Hadn't heard that. Yup that kills the hype for me too.
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#22 frostybanana
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

The dark. mature theme gave me hype for this game.

The fact that its being developed in the gameplay vein of KH nearly took all that hype away.

blaze000119
Hadn't heard that. Yup that kills the hype for me too.

I think you're reading too much into that. KH was a game targeted towards youngsters. If there is a so called dark mature theme with it, don' t you think they would design a battle system that would match it? I see it as they're making a more mature version of the KH system, or at least that's what I'm hoping.
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#23 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="juden41"]

For real?

I actually find the gameplay aspect intriguing. I've always thought Final Fantasy could do well with a real time combat system, and now that it's here, I'm really stoked for the game.

supa_badman

Kh was a button masher with leveling....

If you know how to press X you pretty much beat the game.

If Square Enix wants to keep my respect and money they better not taint the future of the series with KHs shallow gameplay.

If there's a menu and different catorgories for different spells and items, in game, then it really doesn't qualify as a 'button masher'.

You can get through the game with no magic without grinding..... Yeah, its a button masher.

And many button mashers have items....

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#24 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="supa_badman"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Kh was a button masher with leveling....

If you know how to press X you pretty much beat the game.

If Square Enix wants to keep my respect and money they better not taint the future of the series with KHs shallow gameplay.

If there's a menu and different catorgories for different spells and items, in game, then it really doesn't qualify as a 'button masher'.

You can get through the game with no magic without grinding..... Yeah, its a button masher.

And many button mashers have items....

Then that really comes down to a preference of playing. Just because you choose to button mash, doesn't make it a button masher. Although that it's real-time, strategy is involved. That and also the fact it doesn't fall under any genre of 'hack and slash'
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#25 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="supa_badman"] If there's a menu and different catorgories for different spells and items, in game, then it really doesn't qualify as a 'button masher'.supa_badman

You can get through the game with no magic without grinding..... Yeah, its a button masher.

And many button mashers have items....

That and also the fact it doesn't fall under any genre of 'hack and slash'

I think most of us know better though.

Well, atleast those who have played it.

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#26 J-Man725
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I like that they're trying something different story-wise with the dark atmosphere and such....but I'm not so jazzed about where they're taking the battle system.

Seem's like they're trying to change the wrong aspects of the game. The battle system is fine how it is, they should improve on weaker aspects of the game like the increasing linearity and weakening character development.

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#27 dercoo
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The dark. mature theme gave me hype for this game.

The fact that its being developed in the gameplay vein of KH nearly took all that hype away.

Shirokishi_

KH (especially 2) had the best gameplay of any FF universe game.

Real time >>>>>>>>> turn based,

Why so many RPG gamers like redundant gameplay mechanics is beyond me.

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#28 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

The dark. mature theme gave me hype for this game.

The fact that its being developed in the gameplay vein of KH nearly took all that hype away.

dercoo

KH (especially 2) had the best gameplay of any FF universe game.

I respectfully disagree..... Oh how I disagree.....

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#29 juden41
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[QUOTE="supa_badman"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

You can get through the game with no magic without grinding..... Yeah, its a button masher.

And many button mashers have items....

Shirokishi_

That and also the fact it doesn't fall under any genre of 'hack and slash'

I think most of us know better though.

Well, atleast those who have played it.

I see what you're saying. You hit the X button a lot, it is more action oriented than Final Fantasy usually is. I would say Kingdom Hearts is Hacknslash/RPG. The combat is so because the player 'hacks' and 'slashes' their way through all the enemies. Personally excited, I can see how people wouldn't be though.
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#30 GrimMcSlam
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I guess I'm the only person that loved KH and KH2.... I guess you could button mash it, but i think against some of the stronger enemies it surely wouldn't work.....

Besides, everyone seems to hate KH and call it a button masher, but everyone loves the God of War series and it's definitely a button masher way more than KH.

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#31 frostybanana
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I guess I'm the only person that loved KH and KH2.... I guess you could button mash it, but i think against some of the stronger enemies it surely wouldn't work.....

Besides, everyone seems to hate KH and call it a button masher, but everyone loves the God of War series and it's definitely a button masher way more than KH.

GrimMcSlam
I hated KH because it was so damn kiddy. I had no problems with the battle system.
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#32 dercoo
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I guess I'm the only person that loved KH and KH2.... I guess you could button mash it, but i think against some of the stronger enemies it surely wouldn't work.....

Besides, everyone seems to hate KH and call it a button masher, but everyone loves the God of War series and it's definitely a button masher way more than KH.

GrimMcSlam

Your not alone. Most modern players prefer real time.

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#33 GrimMcSlam
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Sure KH was somewhat "kiddy" but I don't think it was over the top kiddy as much as it could have been with all the Disney stuff in it. I thought it was well done.

Definetly one of my top 3 PS2 games.

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#34 Swift_Boss_A
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Im interested in Versus13 for pretty much the same reasons already stated in this thread.
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#35 frostybanana
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Sure KH was somewhat "kiddy" but I don't think it was over the top kiddy as much as it could have been with all the Disney stuff in it. I thought it was well done.

Definetly one of my top 3 PS2 games.

GrimMcSlam
I mean, to each his own, but go around fighting with a giant key isn't exactly my idea of fun.
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#36 GalufUndies
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I'll wait until it comes down in price, way down in price. I typically only buy games that are numbered in a series.

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#37 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="supa_badman"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

You can get through the game with no magic without grinding..... Yeah, its a button masher.

And many button mashers have items....

Shirokishi_

That and also the fact it doesn't fall under any genre of 'hack and slash'

I think most of us know better though.

Well, atleast those who have played it.

:lol: I've played and have both games, it's what I think of it. There is a difference though.
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#38 Khadaj32
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If there's a menu and different catorgories for different spells and items, in game, then it really doesn't qualify as a 'button masher'.

I actually disagree with this. While I absolutely HATE KH and all it's campy Disney crap, the style of fighting was well designed. And my understanding is it's an action RPG. If that's the case, i want to see what they can do with a grown up version of KH's gameplay.

2 people who know what they're talking about! Yay! KH wasn't a button-masher, it only was if you chose to just attack. Just like a fighting game, sure, you can spam a right hook, OR you can go a little deeper and do something more in-depth and trickier. Same deal with KH. KH's combat system is probably the best fast-paced action RPG combat yet, and they're mixing it with Dirge of Cerberus' targeting/approach mechanic, which altogether = awesome. Basically, think of Dirge of Cerberus' combat tweaked to perfection, with the fast-paced action of Kingdom Hearts, with the acrobatic style of Advent Children. I'm sorry...how is that not awesome?

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i was originally more interested in VS than 13 due to the male over female main character and the trailer was sick and showed blood.
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#40 RavenLoud
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Yeah, I'm hyped too because Nomura already confirmed that the game will have towns, NPC's and everything what FFXIII lacked. Even a huge world map like the old FF games (prior X). I think this just confirms that FFXIII was gimped...

Gue1
Can I have a link of Nomura confirming all that :o My hype for the game just skyrocketed.
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i was originally more interested in VS than 13 due to the male over female main character and the trailer was sick and showed blood.LenGen

Whoa now, don't be bashing Lightning. She's badass.

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#42 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="LenGen"]i was originally more interested in VS than 13 due to the male over female main character and the trailer was sick and showed blood.Khadaj32

Whoa now, don't be bashing Lightning. She's badass.

But she's a woman! She should be in the kitchen and taking care of my children! :x [spoiler] :P Not going to lie though, I hope she gets better further along in the game, because despite being badass, she's an insensitive *****. [/spoiler]
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#43 kevy619
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[QUOTE="Elian2530"][QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

Kh was a button masher with leveling....

If you know how to press X you pretty much beat the game.

If Square Enix wants to keep my respect and money they better not taint the future of the series with KHs shallow gameplay.

frostybanana

KH gameplay is going to kill it.. ugh

I actually disagree with this. While I absolutely HATE KH and all it's campy Disney crap, the style of fighting was well designed. And my understanding is it's an action RPG. If that's the case, i want to see what they can do with a grown up version of KH's gameplay.

well the kh style would be fine, if it was harder and actually required thinking. Kingdom Hearts 1 was better than 2 in this aspect, and I would expect a proper final fnatasy game to blow it out of the water.

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#45 Khadaj32
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[QUOTE="Khadaj32"]

[QUOTE="LenGen"]i was originally more interested in VS than 13 due to the male over female main character and the trailer was sick and showed blood.supa_badman

Whoa now, don't be bashing Lightning. She's badass.

But she's a woman! She should be in the kitchen and taking care of my children! :x

Lol xD

[spoiler] Lightning may be inspired by Cloud, but her personality evolves more like Squalls, insensitive > much more human and vulnerable [/spoiler]

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#46 Zanoh
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I'm getting it so yes, I am excited.

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#47 jeremiah06
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Yeah, I'm hyped too because Nomura already confirmed that the game will have towns, NPC's and everything what FFXIII lacked. Even a huge world map like the old FF games (prior X). I think this just confirms that FFXIII was gimped...

Gue1
I swear I'm starting to hate square-enix I can't believe they're pulling the old "coca cola" trick.
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#48 Khadaj32
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[QUOTE="Gue1"]

Yeah, I'm hyped too because Nomura already confirmed that the game will have towns, NPC's and everything what FFXIII lacked. Even a huge world map like the old FF games (prior X). I think this just confirms that FFXIII was gimped...

jeremiah06

I swear I'm starting to hate square-enix I can't believe they're pulling the old "coca cola" trick.

Really? I think they;re doing a fantastic job, and I eagerly await Versus and Agito, having immensely enjoyed FFXIII.

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#49 Shirokishi_
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2 people who know what they're talking about! Yay! KH wasn't a button-masher, it only was if you chose to just attack. Just like a fighting game, sure, you can spam a right hook, OR you can go a little deeper and do something more in-depth and trickier. Same deal with KH. KH's combat system is probably the best fast-paced action RPG combat yet, and they're mixing it with Dirge of Cerberus' targeting/approach mechanic, which altogether = awesome. Basically, think of Dirge of Cerberus' combat tweaked to perfection, with the fast-paced action of Kingdom Hearts, with the acrobatic style of Advent Children. I'm sorry...how is that not awesome?

Khadaj32

Comparing fighters and KHs combat is absolutely ridiculous, but Ill bite. Fighters require button combinations, what does KH require? The X button. Fighters have depth in that aspect, KH doesnt.

You know what, the problem isnt even that all you do is press the X button, the problem is that all you have next to magic is the same combo string over and over and all you have to do to pull it off is mash the X button. If Square wouldve added atleast 1 more combo string with maybe the triangle button like many hack and slashes have I wouldnt be so hard on KH.

Is it among the fastest action RPGs out there. Sure.

The best? No, its too shallow.

People are so drawn off by the fact that the battles are so out there and balls to the wall crazy fast that they dont realize that all theyre doing is pressing X and occasionally jumping/dodging.

With all that said, KH is a great quality series, but it doesnt fair well in the combat department.

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#50 skp_16
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

The dark. mature theme gave me hype for this game.

The fact that its being developed in the gameplay vein of KH nearly took all that hype away.

dercoo

KH (especially 2) had the best gameplay of any FF universe game.

Real time >>>>>>>>> turn based,

Why so many RPG gamers like redundant gameplay mechanics is beyond me.

I totally agree with that.

I used to enjoy turn based until I played Rogue Galaxy. After beating Rogue Galaxy, turn based bores me.