FINALLY!!!!....a developer focusing on the PS3

Burnout 5 may find release on both the PS3 and the Xbox 360, but for the Criterion team, the PS3 version will be a huge focus. While Ward did say that it was simply too early to be able to accurately predict exactly what would be in either release, he noted that the team is attacking the PS3 with the same fervency they did the PS2. 1080p over HDMI, for instance, just isn't possible on the 360 at this point, although it's a foregone conclusion on the PS3. The PS3's Sixaxis controller will provide additional control options the 360's doesn't have. Plus, the PS3's advanced processing capabilities make it particularly suited to the physics-intensive crashes that are going to be taking place.

Imagine that. Whodathunkit. Shoot, maybe some other devs will start reading the PS3 dev kit manuals on their bathroom breaks.emitsu97

LOL Nice.

This combined with Factor 5 saying that it's easier to start with PS3 and port to the 360 rather than the other way around may actually get some lazy ass developers to pay attention and not make crappy ports cause they couldn't be bothered. *cough*Ubisoft*cough*  

Imagine that. Whodathunkit. Shoot, maybe some other devs will start reading the PS3 dev kit manuals on their bathroom breaks.emitsu97

Burnout was a surprise favorite of mine over the last couple of years, the concept sounded so dumb, but I rented  it... I'm like Why didn't I think of that; sports cars ramming things for points!

Now I can't wait to see it on the PS3 

yeah..burnout on ps3 and being developed mainly for ps3 is great:

first make it ps3 and the port it to other systems, but i think since it is multiplataform they`ll have to keep it  low enough so the 360 can reach it. 

yeah..burnout on ps3 and being developed mainly for ps3 is great:

first make it ps3 and the port it to other systems, but i think since it is multiplataform they`ll have to keep it low enough so the 360 can reach it.

psyum

I doubt it. The whole point of developing for the PS3 is so that they can solely focus on what technology the PS3 has to offer and optimizing the game for it.

Should the decision be made to port it later, than the company can worry about possibly downgrading it to fit onto other systems. 

Cool!

Some other developers(*cough*ubisoft*cough*) should learn from them!

 

Cool!

Some other developers(*cough*ubisoft*cough*) should learn from them!

 

deepankar_arya

lol....well don't forget Team Ninja (Ninja Gaiden developers) also criticized developers for being lazy with the ps3.

[QUOTE="psyum"]

yeah..burnout on ps3 and being developed mainly for ps3 is great:

first make it ps3 and the port it to other systems, but i think since it is multiplataform they`ll have to keep it low enough so the 360 can reach it.

mdl207

I doubt it. The whole point of developing for the PS3 is so that they can solely focus on what technology the PS3 has to offer and optimizing the game for it.

Should the decision be made to port it later, than the company can worry about possibly downgrading it to fit onto other systems.

[QUOTE="mdl207"][QUOTE="psyum"]

yeah..burnout on ps3 and being developed mainly for ps3 is great:

first make it ps3 and the port it to other systems, but i think since it is multiplataform they`ll have to keep it low enough so the 360 can reach it.

eclipsed4utoo

I doubt it. The whole point of developing for the PS3 is so that they can solely focus on what technology the PS3 has to offer and optimizing the game for it.

Should the decision be made to port it later, than the company can worry about possibly downgrading it to fit onto other systems.

yup 

Great news, lets see how this will effect future multiplat games.bsin94

yeah...cuz if they start developing for the ps3 first that means we`ll get better quality games and not just simply bad ports

[QUOTE="emitsu97"]Imagine that. Whodathunkit. Shoot, maybe some other devs will start reading the PS3 dev kit manuals on their bathroom breaks.Maverick128

LOL Nice.

This combined with Factor 5 saying that it's easier to start with PS3 and port to the 360 rather than the other way around may actually get some lazy ass developers to pay attention and not make crappy ports cause they couldn't be bothered. *cough*Ubisoft*cough*  

I agree with everything that was said here

Criterion is focusing on the PS3 in their development of Burnout 5. HDMI, 1080p, SIXAXIS, and "advanced processing capabilities" are listed as the reasons. http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/games/features/109250.shtml

Burnout 5 may find release on both the PS3 and the Xbox 360, but for the Criterion team, the PS3 version will be a huge focus. While Ward did say that it was simply too early to be able to accurately predict exactly what would be in either release, he noted that the team is attacking the PS3 with the same fervency they did the PS2. 1080p over HDMI, for instance, just isn't possible on the 360 at this point, although it's a foregone conclusion on the PS3. The PS3's Sixaxis controller will provide additional control options the 360's doesn't have. Plus, the PS3's advanced processing capabilities make it particularly suited to the physics-intensive crashes that are going to be taking place.eclipsed4utoo

WOW, isn't this like light years old! 

WOW, isn't this like light years old!

doogle13

If light years equals late last night, sure it is. 

[QUOTE="doogle13"]

WOW, isn't this like light years old!

emitsu97

If light years equals late last night, sure it is.

I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.meischris39

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.meischris39

Pretty sure that quote was only referring to it being easier to port a game to the 360 than it is to the PS3.  It didn't say anything about it being easier to develop from the ground up on the PS3 (I could be wrong), in fact the concensus is quite the opposite.  It was just talking about how just porting to the PS3 from the 360 is a chore.

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

kingtito

There's more than the GPU at work here. 

[QUOTE="meischris39"]I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.kingtito

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

[QUOTE="kingtito"]

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

emitsu97

There's more than the GPU at work here.

[QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="meischris39"]I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.eclipsed4utoo

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

Well, considering that the PS3 has just come out and the Xbox is in full swing and yet the games are comparable on both systems, I'd say that PS3 has a lot of potential if companies would develop games specifically for it and expand on that potential. 

Imagine that. Whodathunkit. Shoot, maybe some other devs will start reading the PS3 dev kit manuals on their bathroom breaks.emitsu97

ya except most documentation isn't readily available.  The dev kit manuals for the ps2 were in pretty bad "engrish".  There were on par with "master of unlocking".  

[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="meischris39"]I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.donwoogie

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

Well, considering that the PS3 has just come out and the Xbox is in full swing and yet the games are comparable on both systems, I'd say that PS3 has a lot of potential if companies would develop games specifically for it and expand on that potential.

except there is nothing on par with gears on ps3 or anytime in the near future ...

[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="meischris39"]I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.Master__Shake

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

Well, considering that the PS3 has just come out and the Xbox is in full swing and yet the games are comparable on both systems, I'd say that PS3 has a lot of potential if companies would develop games specifically for it and expand on that potential.

except there is nothing on par with gears on ps3 or anytime in the near future ...

[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="meischris39"]I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.Master__Shake

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

Well, considering that the PS3 has just come out and the Xbox is in full swing and yet the games are comparable on both systems, I'd say that PS3 has a lot of potential if companies would develop games specifically for it and expand on that potential.

except there is nothing on par with gears on ps3 or anytime in the near future ...

I'm not sure what you mean by near future, I'm guessing you did your research though so I'll have to agree....

...people need to get over the gears syndrome... 

[QUOTE="meischris39"]I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.kingtito

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

I heard they put flames on their GPU so it would go faster though!!!

Why don't children such as this at least make an attempt to understand that there's more to greating a great looking game then the video card?  I do however agree with one of your points "stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems. "

ya except most documentation isn't readily available. The dev kit manuals for the ps2 were in pretty bad "engrish". There were on par with "master of unlocking". Master__Shake

It's been said many times by multiple developers that Sony is doing a top notch job with development tools this go around.   The atrocious pronunciation of the English language, PS2, and Resident Evil don't play a role this time.

except there is nothing on par with gears on ps3 or anytime in the near future ...

Master__Shake

What's par?  Three casual days worth of entertainment? 

[QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="meischris39"]I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.KoolEmpty

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

I heard they put flames on their GPU so it would go faster though!!!

Why don't children such as this at least make an attempt to understand that there's more to greating a great looking game then the video card? I do however agree with one of your points "stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems. "

I agree....... 

[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="meischris39"]I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.Master__Shake

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

Well, considering that the PS3 has just come out and the Xbox is in full swing and yet the games are comparable on both systems, I'd say that PS3 has a lot of potential if companies would develop games specifically for it and expand on that potential.

except there is nothing on par with gears on ps3 or anytime in the near future ...

lol!!!!!!!!!!!! well actually in 1 game? no, but in graphics: i have 2 say that genji can b compared 2 gears graphically, but gears do look better though(IMO), but very barely, but the gameplay sucks. In the action department: i have 2 give it 2 resistance (due 2 the fact that it's more action going on at once than gears, it's a longer game, and the online play can b argued on what is better), but the graphics isn't with gears though. So the catch is; both of these games r launch games and they can b compared 2 gears (the 360 best looking/most popular game) after a whole year in developement with the game (gears again) with it being stated that the ps3 is a hard system 2 develope 4. So going by all of this, all i would have 2 say 2 u is;"don't go counting ur eggs 2 soon jr."

[QUOTE="Master__Shake"]

except there is nothing on par with gears on ps3 or anytime in the near future ...

emitsu97

What's par? Three casual days worth of entertainment?

:D Nicely done.

How about Oblivion?

Oh I'm sorry. A graphically enhanced (slight as it may be), loading time enhanced (of grave importance), reliable experience with Oblivion?

Yea...I'm set for the next 200 hours of gameplay. 

[QUOTE="Master__Shake"][QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="meischris39"]I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.ermacness

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

Well, considering that the PS3 has just come out and the Xbox is in full swing and yet the games are comparable on both systems, I'd say that PS3 has a lot of potential if companies would develop games specifically for it and expand on that potential.

except there is nothing on par with gears on ps3 or anytime in the near future ...

lol!!!!!!!!!!!! well actually in 1 game? no, but in graphics: i have 2 say that genji can b compared 2 gears graphically, but gears do look better though(IMO), but very barely, but the gameplay sucks. In the action department: i have 2 give it 2 resistance (due 2 the fact that it's more action going on at once than gears, it's a longer game, and the online play can b argued on what is better), but the graphics isn't with gears though. So the catch is; both of these games r launch games and they can b compared 2 gears (the 360 best looking/most popular game) after a whole year in developement with the game (gears again) with it being stated that the ps3 is a hard system 2 develope 4. So going by all of this, all i would have 2 say 2 u is;"don't go counting ur eggs 2 soon jr."

DAMMIT!! TYPE PROPERLY!

[QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="meischris39"]I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.KoolEmpty

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

I heard they put flames on their GPU so it would go faster though!!!

Why don't children such as this at least make an attempt to understand that there's more to greating a great looking game then the video card?  I do however agree with one of your points "stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems. "

The GPU is the MAIN reason for todays graphics. The GPU has been and probably always be the most complicated and powerful component to a system. In just about every case the GPU is what decides how great a game looks with the CPU being secondary. So why wouldn't I talk about the GPU and when it comes to graphics.

For the person that said the 360 GPU is "slightly" better ummm try 3 generations better. 7800, 7900, 7950, 8800 and the 360 GPU is a slightly modifed version of the not YET released R600 from ATI code named x2900

[QUOTE="KoolEmpty"][QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="meischris39"]I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.kingtito

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

I heard they put flames on their GPU so it would go faster though!!!

Why don't children such as this at least make an attempt to understand that there's more to greating a great looking game then the video card? I do however agree with one of your points "stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems. "

The GPU is the MAIN reason for todays graphics. The GPU has been and probably always be the most complicated and powerful component to a system. In just about every case the GPU is what decides how great a game looks with the CPU being secondary. So why wouldn't I talk about the GPU and when it comes to graphics.

For the person that said the 360 GPU is "slightly" better ummm try 3 generations better. 7800, 7900, 7950, 8800 and the 360 GPU is a slightly modifed version of the not YET released R600 from ATI code named x2900

they did a graph comparioson, and while i won't say barely, i sure enough wouldn't say a drastic advantage over the ps3, ohh and cpu is just as important as the gpu as physics and how much is going on (depending on the game) all is on the cpu. thank you very much! 

[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="KoolEmpty"][QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="meischris39"]I think we are going to see a shift in people developing for the ps3 and porting downwards as its much easier. I just hope they don't abandon the ps3 because of slower sales.ermacness

Now why would games have to downgraded to port over to the 360? Hmm last time I checked the modified version of the 7800gtx that's in the PS3 was about 3 generations behind the r600 that's in the 360. Downgraded I think not and stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems.

I heard they put flames on their GPU so it would go faster though!!!

Why don't children such as this at least make an attempt to understand that there's more to greating a great looking game then the video card? I do however agree with one of your points "stop posting like any of you actually know what you're talking when it comes to programming for any of these systems. "

The GPU is the MAIN reason for todays graphics. The GPU has been and probably always be the most complicated and powerful component to a system. In just about every case the GPU is what decides how great a game looks with the CPU being secondary. So why wouldn't I talk about the GPU and when it comes to graphics.

For the person that said the 360 GPU is "slightly" better ummm try 3 generations better. 7800, 7900, 7950, 8800 and the 360 GPU is a slightly modifed version of the not YET released R600 from ATI code named x2900

they did a graph comparioson, and while i won't say barely, i sure enough wouldn't say a drastic advantage over the ps3, ohh and cpu is just as important as the gpu as physics and how much is going on (depending on the game) all is on the cpu. thank you very much! 

What comparison are YOU talking about. Don't try and tell me the 7800 in the PS3 is only "slightly" less powerful than the R600 that as of right now is blowing away the 8800.

Oh and what does physics have to do with the graphics and the GPU? You just made my point that when it comes to graphics the GPU is what's more important.