games that pushed ps3 to the limit..

so until now, what games that used maximum capability of ps3?games that totally use the ps3 engine to the limit..the graphics actually..

doesnt even matter if the games is not out yet..mr hideo kojima said that his MGS4 are going to use the best of ps3 capability.. i think so..

mind my english..

No game out there right now even comes close to pushing the PS3 to the limit.The game that i believe best represents the PS3 in terms of wow factor would hands down be Uncharted: Drakes Fortune.

The white engine with FFXIII is pushing the console quite good with a total of 5 SPes used (i think)but still there are 2 SPes left.

Uncharted is currently at 30% when it'sabout pushing the system.(with 3 SPus)(30 was the right number, right?)If Kojima says that they are using all SPes then they are doinga good job. But even then, they just got all the stuff workingwhat can be foundin the Cell - they still need to make it all running better then, optimizing all SPus to each other and so on. So even then, they are far from finish. It took developers 4 to 5 years to push the PS2 to it's limits, with GT4, God Of War, FFXIIand MGS3. PS3 might take 5 to 7 seven years because PS2 used just 2 Vcores (or what ever it's called), PS3 has got 7 SPus.I remember games using no Vcores at all, like TTT or Ridge Racer, and it was a big news when developers proudly announced that their game was using one Vcore (out of two). Just like Naughty dog with Uncharted using 3 SPUs

edit: I forgot, development tools also need to evolve, with more power, faster software. We are currently in the first generation or first wave of games. Second one will be those games developed on newer development kits, newer to those from the first wave. I don't know how it works, but they really upgrade system ram, speed up processor speed and so onand it's still compatible with the very first consoles.

The white engine with FFXIII is pushing the console quite good with a total of 5 SPes used (i think)but still there are 2 SPes left.

Uncharted is currently at 30% when it'sabout pushing the system.(with 3 SPus)(30 was the right number, right?)If Kojima says that they are using all SPes then they are doinga good job. But even then, they just got all the stuff workingwhat can be foundin the Cell - they still need to make it all running better then, optimizing all SPus to each other and so on. So even then, they are far from finish. It took developers 4 to 5 years to push the PS2 to it's limits, with GT4, God Of War, FFXIIand MGS3. PS3 might take 5 to 7 seven years because PS2 used just 2 Vcores (or what ever it's called), PS3 has got 7 SPus.I remember games using no Vcores at all, like TTT or Ridge Racer, and it was a big news when developers proudly announced that their game was using one Vcore (out of two). Just like Naughty dog with Uncharted using 3 SPUskazuya_m

Both the White Engine and the Killzone 2 engine are only using 4 SPEs. There will still be a lot of resources left for improvement on future titles. The only problem is, to actually use this power, MASSIVE budgets are needed.

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The white engine with FFXIII is pushing the console quite good with a total of 5 SPes used (i think)but still there are 2 SPes left.

Uncharted is currently at 30% when it'sabout pushing the system.(with 3 SPus)(30 was the right number, right?)If Kojima says that they are using all SPes then they are doinga good job. But even then, they just got all the stuff workingwhat can be foundin the Cell - they still need to make it all running better then, optimizing all SPus to each other and so on. So even then, they are far from finish. It took developers 4 to 5 years to push the PS2 to it's limits, with GT4, God Of War, FFXIIand MGS3. PS3 might take 5 to 7 seven years because PS2 used just 2 Vcores (or what ever it's called), PS3 has got 7 SPus.I remember games using no Vcores at all, like TTT or Ridge Racer, and it was a big news when developers proudly announced that their game was using one Vcore (out of two). Just like Naughty dog with Uncharted using 3 SPUsDaddyLongCaddy

Both the White Engine and the Killzone 2 engine are only using 4 SPEs. There will still be a lot of resources left for improvement on future titles. The only problem is, to actually use this power, MASSIVE budgets are needed.

not even close huh..thats interesting..:shock: but how on earth u guys know this all kinda stuff? u know..the SPus, SPes thing..

the white engine on that ffxiii sounds good..n killzone looks amazing at the last E3.. but even that is not close to the limit huh..haha..cool! :D

no game pushes ps3 to the limit. we'll see in a year or 2....Macri

Agree- Exactly.

no game pushes ps3 to the limitMacri

It's got a bright future.

You guys obviously don't know jack about a CPU. You don't just pick 'cores' to use. Each one of the 'cores' in the PS3 are for a specific task. They work down the line through them all and then into the the larger 3.2ghz general core (same as one of the 360's) for processing all of it together. That may not be 100% accurate...I don't want to go read up on the PS3's cpu again for the exact details. But thats how it works for the most part. Same with the 360's triple core. All of them are always being used, its just that they might not be used the most efficient way or to its max processing power.boostud

Spe is not a core like in Quad Core processors.It's a Synergistic Processing Elements. Core is missleading here. 360 does have three cores, PS3 only one with 7 SPe. How 4 SPEs are used can be seen on page 42 to 52 of the Guerrilla development brochure July 2007. I am not allowed to upload it. Maybe some of you have the public version, please upload it then. thanks

[QUOTE="boostud"]You guys obviously don't know jack about a CPU. You don't just pick 'cores' to use. Each one of the 'cores' in the PS3 are for a specific task. They work down the line through them all and then into the the larger 3.2ghz general core (same as one of the 360's) for processing all of it together. That may not be 100% accurate...I don't want to go read up on the PS3's cpu again for the exact details. But thats how it works for the most part. Same with the 360's triple core. All of them are always being used, its just that they might not be used the most efficient way or to its max processing power.kazuya_m

Spe is not a core like in Quad Core processors.It's a Synergistic Processing Elements. Core is missleading here. 360 does have three cores, PS3 only one with 7 SPe. How 4 SPEs are used can be seen on page 42 to 52 of the Guerrilla development brochure July 2007. I am not allowed to upload it. Maybe some of you have the public version, please upload it then. thanks

I'm aware the SPE's are not cores...more like a quarter of a core. Thats why I wrote 'core'. Easy to misinterpret though...so I'm not arguing. But, I had read all documentation on the PS3's CPU design as it was interesting. I tried to 'dummy' it down so it wasn't a strung out post.

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The white engine with FFXIII is pushing the console quite good with a total of 5 SPes used (i think)but still there are 2 SPes left.

Uncharted is currently at 30% when it'sabout pushing the system.(with 3 SPus)(30 was the right number, right?)If Kojima says that they are using all SPes then they are doinga good job. But even then, they just got all the stuff workingwhat can be foundin the Cell - they still need to make it all running better then, optimizing all SPus to each other and so on. So even then, they are far from finish. It took developers 4 to 5 years to push the PS2 to it's limits, with GT4, God Of War, FFXIIand MGS3. PS3 might take 5 to 7 seven years because PS2 used just 2 Vcores (or what ever it's called), PS3 has got 7 SPus.I remember games using no Vcores at all, like TTT or Ridge Racer, and it was a big news when developers proudly announced that their game was using one Vcore (out of two). Just like Naughty dog with Uncharted using 3 SPUsDaddyLongCaddy

Both the White Engine and the Killzone 2 engine are only using 4 SPEs. There will still be a lot of resources left for improvement on future titles. The only problem is, to actually use this power, MASSIVE budgets are needed.

Right now to use that power a massive budget is needed, because these teams have to rewrite these engines from the ground up to handle the architecture of the PS3's hardware. As devs learn more and more about the Cell and new, better SDKs are released by Sony, it will become easier and therefore not require as large of a budget.

Square-enix have stated that Final Fantasy XIII and Versus XIII will use every last ounce of the PS3's juice. They wont go back on their word either. But thats still a year maybe a year and a half awaybubblepaul

Innefficient coding can zap the juice faster than anything. I wouldn't think that coding an RPG would come close to the processing requirements of actiongames like COD4 and yet they seem to be the laggiest.

so until now, what games that used maximum capability of ps3?games that totally use the ps3 engine to the limit..the graphics actually..

doesnt even matter if the games is not out yet..mr hideo kojima said that his MGS4 are going to use the best of ps3 capability.. i think so..

mind my english..

thepickmaster

well the best i seen is killzone 2, how much of the ps3's power is it using?

well the best i seen is killzone 2, how much of the ps3's power is it using?

Rock99999Fan

Enchanted Arms pushes the PS3 to extremes...moshakirby

Square-enix have stated that Final Fantasy XIII and Versus XIII will use every last ounce of the PS3's juice. They wont go back on their word either. But thats still a year maybe a year and a half awaybubblepaul

partially correct, they are said to be using anywhere from 50-75% no other game on the market or in development atm is able to match final fantasy atm

so yeah FF is as usual the ownage on the ps3