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#1 ps3gameplayer
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This is not a thread about underrated games such as The Saboteur but a thread about games that have gotten a review with negative compaints about problems that exist in other games but those problems were not compained about in the review for the other game.

Splinter Cell HD Trilogy: Review compained about frame rate issues (that were just frame rate hicupps) but the Skyrim review did not.

Tomb Raider Underworld:Reviews compained about the game being too similar to previous games, however New Super Mario Bro's was praised for being more of the same.

Mafia II:Reviews compained about mundane tasks that were simply just as tap of the Y/Triangle button, however the mudane dates in Grand Theft Auto IV were not compained about and the mundane tasks in Heavy Rain were praised for being engaging.

Kane and Lynch 2 Dog Days: Comapaints were egiven for beingtoo repetitive for just shooting and shooting and having a short campaign, Call of Duty suffers from those issues too.

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#2 Karnya
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Any sequel that is given a negative for not adding anything new to the series whilst COD continues to get high scores.

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#3 DarthJohnova
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This is not a thread about underrated games such as The Saboteur but a thread about games that have gotten a review with negative compaints about problems that exist in other games but those problems were not compained about in the review for the other game.

Splinter Cell HD Trilogy: Review compained about frame rate issues (that were just frame rate hicupps) but the Skyrim review did not.

Tomb Raider Underworld:Reviews compained about the game being too similar to previous games, however New Super Mario Bro's was praised for being more of the same.

Mafia II:Reviews compained about mundane tasks that were simply just as tap of the Y/Triangle button, however the mudane dates in Grand Theft Auto IV were not compained about and the mundane tasks in Heavy Rain were praised for being engaging.

Kane and Lynch 2 Dog Days: Comapaints were egiven for beingtoo repetitive for just shooting and shooting and having a short campaign, Call of Duty suffers from those issues too.

ps3gameplayer
So your logic is that these complaints are invalid because other games have it worse?
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#4 looseyourself87
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Any sequel that is given a negative for not adding anything new to the series whilst COD continues to get high scores.

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lmao this!

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#5 ps3gameplayer
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[QUOTE="ps3gameplayer"]

This is not a thread about underrated games such as The Saboteur but a thread about games that have gotten a review with negative compaints about problems that exist in other games but those problems were not compained about in the review for the other game.

Splinter Cell HD Trilogy: Review compained about frame rate issues (that were just frame rate hicupps) but the Skyrim review did not.

Tomb Raider Underworld:Reviews compained about the game being too similar to previous games, however New Super Mario Bro's was praised for being more of the same.

Mafia II:Reviews compained about mundane tasks that were simply just as tap of the Y/Triangle button, however the mudane dates in Grand Theft Auto IV were not compained about and the mundane tasks in Heavy Rain were praised for being engaging.

Kane and Lynch 2 Dog Days: Comapaints were egiven for beingtoo repetitive for just shooting and shooting and having a short campaign, Call of Duty suffers from those issues too.

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So your logic is that these complaints are invalid because other games have it worse?

No i am saying that games can have the same problem (e.g. Kane and Lynch 2 and CoD, not bashing them) and others may have it worse, e.g. New Super Mario Bro's is clearly too familar to previous games while Tomb Raider Underworld will offer a fresh expereience with new locations and gameplay mechanics. What i am trying to say is that the bolded games have suffered unfair criticism when the other games have the same issuses as compained about as mentioned in the reviews for the bolded games, anway this thread was made so others could list games that have unfair criticism.

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http://www.examiner.com/console-game-in-baltimore/are-gamers-guilty-of-unfair-criticism

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[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"][QUOTE="ps3gameplayer"]

This is not a thread about underrated games such as The Saboteur but a thread about games that have gotten a review with negative compaints about problems that exist in other games but those problems were not compained about in the review for the other game.

Splinter Cell HD Trilogy: Review compained about frame rate issues (that were just frame rate hicupps) but the Skyrim review did not.

Tomb Raider Underworld:Reviews compained about the game being too similar to previous games, however New Super Mario Bro's was praised for being more of the same.

Mafia II:Reviews compained about mundane tasks that were simply just as tap of the Y/Triangle button, however the mudane dates in Grand Theft Auto IV were not compained about and the mundane tasks in Heavy Rain were praised for being engaging.

Kane and Lynch 2 Dog Days: Comapaints were egiven for beingtoo repetitive for just shooting and shooting and having a short campaign, Call of Duty suffers from those issues too.

ps3gameplayer

So your logic is that these complaints are invalid because other games have it worse?

No i am saying that games can have the same problem (e.g. Kane and Lynch 2 and CoD, not bashing them) and others may have it worse, e.g. New Super Mario Bro's is clearly too familar to previous games while Tomb Raider Underworld will offer a fresh expereience with new locations and gameplay mechanics. What i am trying to say is that the bolded games have suffered unfair criticism when the other games have the same issuses as compained about as mentioned in the reviews for the bolded games, anway this thread was made so others could list games that have unfair criticism.



But in most of those cases it's so that the games who didn't get an "unfair" review have many many many many stuff that overshines the weakspots and almost makes them hardly noticing them or they're just plain so good that it's worth to go through and they would be even better if they hadn't those, the ones you mentioned, well I can only speak for Splinter Cell because I played the first two games on PS2 and TRU because I own it:

About Splinter Cell, for games who're 10 years old and whilst most other HD Collection Titles work smooth and eprfectly fine you'd expect that it would run smooth, also in a Stealth Game where timing is critical important one Framerate could be the difference between a Stealth Kill and Alert Activated.

About TRU, it plays like Tomb Raider Legend, just darker, with less enemy variation and less revolutionary. Also the game design is plain bad, like the decision putting a complex underwarter level right at the start of the game. So the game starts really slow and drags along, and in the ACTION Adventure Genre having a slow start is a big mistake in my opinion.

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#8 LeifLongbottom
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That's simple to explain:

all of these reviews appear on game websites. These websites have advertisers who are usually the publishers producing these games. So when a company is sponsoring a particular web site or giving the site exclusive access, that site will be more likely to gloss over some of the rough parts of their games.

Look at how the press goes nuts over every EA release and yet gamers hate EA and everything it stands for. They just sink tons of cash into marketing.

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Kane and Lynch 2 Dog Days: Comapaints were egiven for beingtoo repetitive for just shooting and shooting and having a short campaign, Call of Duty suffers from those issues too.

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pretty sure that got bashed because it was 4 hours long

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#10 LoG-Sacrament
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the criticism that limbo was too short was absurd. there was so much more than just how other short games were swooned over with their length never being addressed as a notable downside (heavy rain and braid come to mind). why is duration even a factor if the rest of the game is great? how can you fairly calculate duration when reflection is so important? what is with this whole concept of a value calculus being this simple mix of duration and price? if the reviewer didnt like the level design, puzzles, or whatever, then thats totally fine. just dont give me "well...it is kinda short..."
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thats why i dont go by any reviews or anything. i normally rent the game or buy it if im really interested in it. cuz in the end im the judge of it u know? i cant tell u how many games i played that gotten 5 or lower score that i have enjoyed so much and seeing what the reviews said, some of them are ridiculous and just nitpicking
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I thought Alice Madness Returns got a lot of flack for being old fashioned and a bit last gen,reviews said boring gameplay with too long levels,but am playing it at the moment and loving it.It does feel kind of retro but is a well made game with lovley design.

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#13 ps3gameplayer
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[QUOTE="ps3gameplayer"]

Kane and Lynch 2 Dog Days: Comapaints were egiven for being too repetitive for just shooting and shooting and having a short campaign, Call of Duty suffers from those issues too.

tab134

pretty sure that got bashed because it was 4 hours long

Call of Duty campaigns usually are not much longer and Kand and Lynch and they both have online.

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#14 ps3gameplayer
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[QUOTE="ps3gameplayer"]

[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"] So your logic is that these complaints are invalid because other games have it worse?Justforvisit

No i am saying that games can have the same problem (e.g. Kane and Lynch 2 and CoD, not bashing them) and others may have it worse, e.g. New Super Mario Bro's is clearly too familar to previous games while Tomb Raider Underworld will offer a fresh expereience with new locations and gameplay mechanics. What i am trying to say is that the bolded games have suffered unfair criticism when the other games have the same issuses as compained about as mentioned in the reviews for the bolded games, anway this thread was made so others could list games that have unfair criticism.



But in most of those cases it's so that the games who didn't get an "unfair" review have many many many many stuff that overshines the weakspots and almost makes them hardly noticing them or they're just plain so good that it's worth to go through and they would be even better if they hadn't those, the ones you mentioned, well I can only speak for Splinter Cell because I played the first two games on PS2 and TRU because I own it:

About Splinter Cell, for games who're 10 years old and whilst most other HD Collection Titles work smooth and eprfectly fine you'd expect that it would run smooth, also in a Stealth Game where timing is critical important one Framerate could be the difference between a Stealth Kill and Alert Activated.

About TRU, it plays like Tomb Raider Legend, just darker, with less enemy variation and less revolutionary. Also the game design is plain bad, like the decision putting a complex underwarter level right at the start of the game. So the game starts really slow and drags along, and in the ACTION Adventure Genre having a slow start is a big mistake in my opinion.

The Splinter Cell 'famerate issues' are largley over-exaggerated and are just hiccups that last about a second, if that.

As for Tomb Raider underworld, sure it has similar gameplay to Legend (well DUH, it's part of the same series), and of course it's darker (hence the same Underworld), the game was made to have more platforming this time around and was designed for those who had played the previous two games so the would have not struggled with the underwater level.

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#15 ps3gameplayer
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I would also like to state that i haven't played it due to owning a PS3 but Splinet Cell Conviction suffered unfair criticism, reviews compained about stealth opions being stripped down (that i can beleive), but Grand Theft Auto IV review did not and that game clearly had features stripped away.

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#16 ps3gameplayer
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I would also like to state that i haven't played it due to owning a PS3 but Splinet Cell Conviction suffered unfair criticism, reviews compained about stealth opions being stripped down (that i can beleive), but Grand Theft Auto IV review did not and that game clearly had features stripped away.