Gamespot GT5 Review is up!!!

8/10! They at least have valid reasons for the point deductions.....overall I would say it's a fair review.

Oh... Justin reviewed it. That guy doesn't like anything. :P On a serious note, I feel the game deserves at least an 8.5.

Haha very true, he is a whiny one lol. But a game like this is soooo hard to review....I'm just happy they took their time to review it.

8.0 is in no way a bad score, but way below what was expected (9.5).

I'm pretty sure that some will say that reviews are another person's opinions and that you have to play it yourself to know how you truly like the game, but after waiting so long to find out that this game is a bit above average must incite some anger.

8.0 is in no way a bad score, but way below what was expected (9.5).

I'm pretty sure that some will say that reviews are another person's opinions and that you have to play it yourself to know how you truly like the game, but after waiting so long to find out that this game is a bit above average must incite some anger.

ZIVX

But the game is great, It just doesn't show a 5 year development cycle.

I've never played any GT game before, my perception might be different from most people.

So far, it's superb. Sure, I've only played it for like two or three hours, but it's still awesome. That's pretty much all I can say so far.

Well id say 8.5...Only Forza Motorsports, I believe is the only game that can compete with GT5... though i choose GT5 over any racing game anyday

Sounds pretty fair given what I've played. Solid driving mechanics, beautiful premium cars, sketchy AI, bizarre interface choices, and a huge disconnect between standard and premium cars. It's a good driving sim but certainly not the great one it should have been.DJ_Lae

The only thing that bothers me about the look of the game is the shadows look like garbage at times - I think it's during the pre-race where it just looks really bad. Makes no sense as everything else looks spectacular. How could they overlook that? Some of the tracks just look SOOOO incredible, the weather and smoke looks so authentic, and the premium cars are perfection, that I think the good outweighs the bad by far. It's an amazing looking game. The reviewers should not have knocked it down based on the standard cars. They really aren't "bad" looking at all until you inspect closely. But it seems like many of the reviewers used that against the game. Hell PD could have just not included the standard cars at all and not taken the hit for that, maybe they would then take a hit for "only" providing 200 or 300 cars...If they were going to do "standard cars" I at least like the way they did it by making them all in the "used car lot" and clearly separating them in the garage. I still don't see why they couldn't have done some basic interior view for ALL cars, even Midnight Club Los Angeles has that, PD should have at least done something there even if a generic cockpit for multiple standard cars.

AI is also nothing special, but not bad enough to worry about either. I just wish the AI would drive aggressive. Don't like that you can still play bumpercars to help make a pass (I can't help myself but do this).

I really like the main interface though. It's miles better than it's been in the past.

A very fair review. Polyphony has shown that they can make a wonderful simulation racer; they cannot, however, make a great game. Indeed, their presentation is not at the level that it should be.

Honestly, for the next GT, I would prefer less cars, more detail, and a simple interface -- there's no real need to get fancy.

A very fair review. Polyphony has shown that they can make a wonderful simulation racer; they cannot, however, make a great game. Indeed, their presentation is not at the level that it should be.

Honestly, for the next GT, I would prefer less cars, more detail, and a simple interface -- there's no real need to get fancy.

Mini2

[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Sounds pretty fair given what I've played. Solid driving mechanics, beautiful premium cars, sketchy AI, bizarre interface choices, and a huge disconnect between standard and premium cars. It's a good driving sim but certainly not the great one it should have been.2Chalupas

The only thing that bothers me about the look of the game is the shadows look like garbage at times - I think it's during the pre-race where it just looks really bad. Makes no sense as everything else looks spectacular. How could they overlook that? Some of the tracks just look SOOOO incredible, the weather and smoke looks so authentic, and the premium cars are perfection, that I think the good outweighs the bad by far. It's an amazing looking game. The reviewers should not have knocked it down based on the standard cars. They really aren't "bad" looking at all until you inspect closely. But it seems like many of the reviewers used that against the game. Hell PD could have just not included the standard cars at all and not taken the hit for that, maybe they would then take a hit for "only" providing 200 or 300 cars...If they were going to do "standard cars" I at least like the way they did it by making them all in the "used car lot" and clearly separating them in the garage. I still don't see why they couldn't have done some basic interior view for ALL cars, even Midnight Club Los Angeles has that, PD should have at least done something there even if a generic cockpit for multiple standard cars.

AI is also nothing special, but not bad enough to worry about either. I just wish the AI would drive aggressive. Don't like that you can still play bumpercars to help make a pass (I can't help myself but do this).

I really like the main interface though. It's miles better than it's been in the past.

A very fair review. Polyphony has shown that they can make a wonderful simulation racer; they cannot, however, make a great game. Indeed, their presentation is not at the level that it should be.

Honestly, for the next GT, I would prefer less cars, more detail, and a simple interface -- there's no real need to get fancy.

Mini2

yeah i agree. The review is spot on if you ask me and im sorry GT fans the game is far from perfect. 8.0 - 8.5 is exactly right.

I've never played any GT game before, my perception might be different from most people.

So far, it's superb. Sure, I've only played it for like two or three hours, but it's still awesome. That's pretty much all I can say so far.

BaraChat

I'm the same. I never got into earlier GT games. I had GT3 because it came with my PS2, but I never played it.

I bought the Driving Force GT mostly for this game. Played GT5 about 4-5 hours (maybe more) and love it so far :D. I'm only on beginner and it's already challenging for me :P, but that's a good thing because it pushes me to do better (which I am).

I think the review is very fair. He makes good points and I agree with all his "negative comments". Overall I might have gone 8.5 myself but it's amarginal call I think!

I'm glad Justin took his time to review the game properly (unlike several other reviewers). I wasn't too impressed with his "Now Playing" video last week - but largely because it was clear he hadn't tried anything other than the GT Life mode, and so it came across as awkward (all those "I haven't tried this" moments) and did more to put people off the game than go out and buy it.

This review though is pretty much bang on in my opinion. The driving is solid, but the menus, inconsistent graphics and general sloppiness take the shine off the game. I can't help but get the feeling that PD had a sudden realisation that they were taking way too long to release the game and had a massive cramming session to get the game out.

GT5 may be a better game that Forza 3 in terms of driving, but it's got nowhere near the polish or consistency.

after giving fallout new vegas 7.5 GS reviews lost much credibility for me , now this GT5 scoreonly confirms not to trust the reviews , i own both games and they are much better than their respective score

after giving fallout new vegas 7.5 GS reviews lost much credibility for me , now this GT5 scoreonly confirms not to trust the reviews , i own both games and they are much better than their respective score

AmnesiaHaze

I can't say anything about Fallout since I haven't played it, but I remember reading that it had a whole myriad of backbreaking technical issues, which were noted by multiple review sites.

As for GT5, I realize that opinions vary, but I think in this case, GS's review was fairly objective.

There's no denying that it's a great game -- it's just that it didn't really move the series forward. And given that it was in production for 6 years, every review site's expectations were naturally high. But ultimately, the protracted development period wasn't justified by the end product, since GT5 (as some people have accurately stated) is essentially an HD version of GT4.

None of that means that GT5 is a bad game (hell, I love it), but it definitely deserved to get docked a few points for it's "staleness" (and despite how that sounds, I don't mean that in completely negative way).

after giving fallout new vegas 7.5 GS reviews lost much credibility for me , now this GT5 scoreonly confirms not to trust the reviews , i own both games and they are much better than their respective score

AmnesiaHaze

All reviews are subjective and based on the opinion of the author. No-one with any brain would always "trust" any reviews because of this. Some people might enjoy GT5 enough to give it a higher mark. For me the overall package is too much quantity and not enough quality. Graphics don't make or break a game IMO but the quality of some of the tracks is lower the NFS Shift which is over a year old and didn't take 6 years to develop. The real deal breaker for me is the lack of cockpit view in the standard cars....what were they thinking? But again that is my opinion based on the fact I play games like this with a wheel.

Anyone is obviously entitled to their opinions but unless there are factual inaccuracies then no review is more valid ( or trustworthy ) than any other.I can see no such inaccuracies in the GT5 review. Disagreeing with someone else's opinion does not make it wrong!!!

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

after giving fallout new vegas 7.5 GS reviews lost much credibility for me , now this GT5 scoreonly confirms not to trust the reviews , i own both games and they are much better than their respective score

All reviews are subjective and based on the opinion of the author. No-one with any brain would always "trust" any reviews because of this. Some people might enjoy GT5 enough to give it a higher mark. For me the overall package is too much quantity and not enough quality. Graphics don't make or break a game IMO but the quality of some of the tracks is lower the NFS Shift which is over a year old and didn't take 6 years to develop. The real deal breaker for me is the lack of cockpit view in the standard cars....what were they thinking? But again that is my opinion based on the fact I play games like this with a wheel.

Anyone is obviously entitled to their opinions but unless there are factual inaccuracies then no review is more valid ( or trustworthy ) than any other.I can see no such inaccuracies in the GT5 review. Disagreeing with someone else's opinion does not make it wrong!!!

I think it was a good review. The game is fun and packed full of content but it has a serious number of problems weighing it down.

[QUOTE="SadPSPAddict"]

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

after giving fallout new vegas 7.5 GS reviews lost much credibility for me , now this GT5 scoreonly confirms not to trust the reviews , i own both games and they are much better than their respective score

AmnesiaHaze

All reviews are subjective and based on the opinion of the author. No-one with any brain would always "trust" any reviews because of this. Some people might enjoy GT5 enough to give it a higher mark. For me the overall package is too much quantity and not enough quality. Graphics don't make or break a game IMO but the quality of some of the tracks is lower the NFS Shift which is over a year old and didn't take 6 years to develop. The real deal breaker for me is the lack of cockpit view in the standard cars....what were they thinking? But again that is my opinion based on the fact I play games like this with a wheel.

Anyone is obviously entitled to their opinions but unless there are factual inaccuracies then no review is more valid ( or trustworthy ) than any other.I can see no such inaccuracies in the GT5 review. Disagreeing with someone else's opinion does not make it wrong!!!

Well the Xbox360 doesn't support the Logitech wheel but Forza 3 works really well with one of the Xbox wheels ( can't remember which one and I'm not at home to check ). Also Forza 3 had consistent graphics throughout with no real gameplay issues. IMO GT5 is better than Forza 3 but would only have given that an 8 myself and an 8.5 to GT5.

NFS HP is irrelevant - completely different type of game and I don't know about you, but I wouldn't play such a blatant arcade racer with my wheel anyway. I have HP too and think it's a great game but you can't compare the reviews since the game type is so different. Ultimately a review should indicate just how much fun a game is and how playable it is - and therefore whether it is worth buying.

I still have to disagree regarding GT review. I think it does a good job of pointing out the good bits and explaining the bad bits and thus how the score was reached. But.....we debate opinions that could go on for ever :lol:

so...according to them Need for Speed Hot Pursuit is better ?

nice

I can't argue much with the score I haven't played much of it.

I wouldn't put too much emphasis on a reviewer who hasn't finished not even one PS3 - http://us.playstation.com/publictrophy/index.htm?onlinename=JusticeCovert.

I won't even mention what Justin actually does play majority of his time with over 40000+ gamer-score.

While 8/10 is a far score, his review itself, if anyone cared to read it properly, has contradictions on every turn. Music not to his liking? -1 in score...

I'm pretty disappointed with Gamespot choice for GT5 reviewer, I guess being shorthanded is common this days in gaming journalism.

Either way, I'm enjoying the game, that's all that matters. I would not however put my fate into Justin's review.

I agree with the review, it doesn't look like the visually stunning game people said it would be, and the crash damage effects are poor. In 6 years it's a quite shocking gameto be honest. Doesn't look bad, but just doesn't live up to what it was meant to be.

so...according to them Need for Speed Hot Pursuit is better ?

nice

AccOfTheLost

I bought three games recently: GT5, Hot Pursuit and AC BrotherHood.

Hot Pursuit is the best. Your statement to me is correct.

Considering how so many people were talking about how this game could be a GOTY pick and then it only gets an 8.0 makes me think this game is an epic fail.

Considering how so many people were talking about how this game could be a GOTY pick and then it only gets an 8.0 makes me think this game is an epic fail.

Demonjoe93

They must have expecting it too high. While, we can't do anything about the score.

i thought it would have a better score; i am little bit disappointed from Sony's performance in first party games only ,GOD 3 stands up this year, move titles is blah ,3D isn't accessible to every one, e3 wasn't entertaining as was in 2009, no important firmware for the XMB and it is getting old, psp hasn't had any headlines this year and PSN ,WHAT the HELL??, is getting way behind XBLA. Sony can't concentrate in a lot of thing at the same time. i hope the have something new in 2011

I'd have to agree with the 8.0. It spent so much time in development and they hyped it up to the stars and beyond, but then when I finally get it it's GT4 in hi-def. More or less. I mean, 80% of the cars are certainly no better than what's available in any other multi-platform racing games (worse when you add in the awful shadows), and some of the tracks are really dodgy. Then there's the brain-dead AI cars, that run into you like they don't even acknowledge the presence of humans in their pre-programmed race. And if you're going to spend almost 6 years remaking GT4, for chrissakes, where are the other half of the tracks? I just don't see any excuse for that.

GT5 developers should not have listen to the public.Just keep delaying would make us think GT5 is the best so there will not be any disappointment.

Like others said i would have given it a 8.5, but it was a decent review. The only saving grace is the updates that will follow every week to month. Some issues that they need work on:

B-spec needs some work as the drivers are just stupid sometimes, standard cars look like they were ported from GT4, and we need rims for all the cars. Also they need to work out the turbo and supercharger upgrades, a supercharger on a 2010 camaro adds about 200hp crank, not 50hp. Drafting in this game is way too much, it doesnt work that way in real life. Load times, LOAD TIMES! It just feels like its not yet finished, and they rushed it out because Sony forced them to get it out before thanksgiving.

But overall im enjoying it, it feels like Gran Turismo and there is nothing wrong with that. But lets wait and see, the updates might improve the things that people arnt too happy with.

couple questions. how many nascars are in the game? is there full paint job customization like forza 3?grand17

It seems the reviews are about 1-1.5 lower than people were expecting. GT 5 should've been better than this.

i dont know, for me they didnt justify GT5 good enough. hot pursuit got a freaking higher score than this, and we all know GT5 cant touch NFS

Sounds like more effort is put into content than polish, not sure if I'll play yet.