Genuine LITTLE BIG PLANET Concerns

Basically i have some what i think are valid concerns about the gameplay element of little big planet.

Allow me to elaborate, From what i have seen of LBP it seams as if its a kind of network community style build a level/machine type game, random people work together to build/create or solve a puzzle, which isnt a new idea but its probably never been done in this kind of depth before, apart from one game that springs to mind.

GARRYS MOD for half life 2, which is an amazing mod with loads of potential, the only problem with garrys mod is immature users who randomly spawn and spam with objects, they interfear with whatever you are making, and they generally just spoil the game, its seamingly become so bad now on garrys mod that version 10 of the modification you have to pay for.

Now paying for LBP might stop undesirables playing and spoiling the network experience, i dont know, but paying for resistance and motorstorm hasnt stopped people glitching and cheating.

As great as LBP looks and as excited as i am about it, i am very concerned that after a couple of months, it will be spoiled by immature people thinking its funny to spawn massive amounts of objects, destroy other peoples creations and basically create absolute hell, this in tern will put genuine creative people off.

The amount of time ive created something like a raft or a working catapult in garrys mod, only to have somebody weld objects to it, rope it to the walls ect.

LBP is going to need some kind of USER MODERATION, it will need the ability to ban people from your game in my opinion.

Anybody here who has ever played GARRYS MOD for half life 2, please help me explain to those who have not, how much of a pain some players can be to the experience. 

Basically i have some what i think are valid concerns about the gameplay element of little big planet.

Allow me to elaborate, From what i have seen of LBP it seams as if its a kind of network community style build a level/machine type game, random people work together to build/create or solve a puzzle, which isnt a new idea but its probably never been done in this kind of depth before, apart from one game that springs to mind.

 

GARRYS MOD for half life 2, which is an amazing mod with loads of potential, the only problem with garrys mod is immature users who randomly spawn and spam with objects, they interfear with whatever you are making, and they generally just spoil the game, its seamingly become so bad now on garrys mod that version 10 of the modification you have to pay for.

Now paying for LBP might stop undesirables playing and spoiling the network experience, i dont know, but paying for resistance and motorstorm hasnt stopped people glitching and cheating.

As great as LBP looks and as excited as i am about it, i am very concerned that after a couple of months, it will be spoiled by immature people thinking its funny to spawn massive amounts of objects, destroy other peoples creations and basically create absolute hell, this in tern will put genuine creative people off.

The amount of time ive created something like a raft or a working catapult in garrys mod, only to have somebody weld objects to it, rope it to the walls ect.

LBP is going to need some kind of USER MODERATION, it will need the ability to ban people from your game in my opinion.

 

Anybody here who has ever played GARRYS MOD for half life 2, please help me explain to those who have not, how much of a pain some players can be to the experience. 

 

iamsickofspam

Its not just the maps, i take it you can start a level online with other users, just like you can in GARRYS MOD.

The fact that other users can stick stickers and things on another users object, makes me wonder how open to abuse it all is.

Have you guys played GARRYS MOD, anybody who has should know exacally what i am talking about.

Its not just the maps, i take it you can start a level online with other users, just like you can in GARRYS MOD.

The fact that other users can stick stickers and things on another users object, makes me wonder how open to abuse it all is.

 

Have you guys played GARRYS MOD, anybody who has should know exacally what i am talking about.

 

iamsickofspam

I don't know what that is.  I have never been a PC gamer, so mods and user-generated content is new to me. 

Its not just the maps, i take it you can start a level online with other users, just like you can in GARRYS MOD.

The fact that other users can stick stickers and things on another users object, makes me wonder how open to abuse it all is.

 

Have you guys played GARRYS MOD, anybody who has should know exactly what i am talking about.

 

iamsickofspam

Im not worried about permanent vandalism to your level or whatever, im worried about people spoiling the experience for others, which is a part of allmost all online games, the only difference with LBP compaired to any other online game, is the massive amount of enviromental interaction.

Like i said, from playing that HL 2 mod, ive mentioned, 70% of the users spoil it for the rest of them, now that sounds like a big number, but anybody who has played GM will know exacally where i am coming from.

its a royal pain in the butt.

watch this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgpF8WurNhU&mode=related&search=

 thats what 100s of people do on garrys mod just to spoil the game for other users, because they get some kind of childish amusment out of it.

Play it with friends, build offline maps or don't play it at all. 

Online is overated.  Paying will not stop "vandalism" or glitchers, in fact, it will make it even more "fun" for them. Just my thoughts...

Im not worried about permanent vandalism to your level or whatever, im worried about people spoiling the experience for others, which is a part of allmost all online games, the only difference with LBP compaired to any other online game, is the massive amount of enviromental interaction.

Like i said, from playing that HL 2 mod, ive mentioned, 70% of the users spoil it for the rest of them, now that sounds like a big number, but anybody who has played GM will know exacally where i am coming from.

its a royal pain in the butt.

 

 

watch this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgpF8WurNhU&mode=related&search=

 thats what 100s of people do on garrys mod just to spoil the game for other users, because they get some kind of childish amusment out of it.

 

 

 

iamsickofspam

[QUOTE="iamsickofspam"]

Im not worried about permanent vandalism to your level or whatever, im worried about people spoiling the experience for others, which is a part of allmost all online games, the only difference with LBP compaired to any other online game, is the massive amount of enviromental interaction.

Like i said, from playing that HL 2 mod, ive mentioned, 70% of the users spoil it for the rest of them, now that sounds like a big number, but anybody who has played GM will know exacally where i am coming from.

its a royal pain in the butt.

 

 

watch this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgpF8WurNhU&mode=related&search=

thats what 100s of people do on garrys mod just to spoil the game for other users, because they get some kind of childish amusment out of it.

 

 

 

gizmo_logix

HL 2 = Half Life 2 

LBP is going to need some kind of USER MODERATION, it will need the ability to ban people from your game in my opinion.

 

Anybody here who has ever played GARRYS MOD for half life 2, please help me explain to those who have not, how much of a pain some players can be to the experience. 

 

iamsickofspam

im pretty sure there will be a thing for the creater to click/say/lock their level so it cant be modified and such

[QUOTE="gizmo_logix"][QUOTE="iamsickofspam"]

Im not worried about permanent vandalism to your level or whatever, im worried about people spoiling the experience for others, which is a part of allmost all online games, the only difference with LBP compaired to any other online game, is the massive amount of enviromental interaction.

Like i said, from playing that HL 2 mod, ive mentioned, 70% of the users spoil it for the rest of them, now that sounds like a big number, but anybody who has played GM will know exacally where i am coming from.

its a royal pain in the butt.

 

 

watch this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgpF8WurNhU&mode=related&search=

thats what 100s of people do on garrys mod just to spoil the game for other users, because they get some kind of childish amusment out of it.

 

 

 

eclipsed4utoo

HL 2 = Half Life 2 

Im not worried about permanent vandalism to your level or whatever, im worried about people spoiling the experience for others, which is a part of allmost all online games, the only difference with LBP compaired to any other online game, is the massive amount of enviromental interaction.

Like i said, from playing that HL 2 mod, ive mentioned, 70% of the users spoil it for the rest of them, now that sounds like a big number, but anybody who has played GM will know exacally where i am coming from.

its a royal pain in the butt.

 

 

watch this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgpF8WurNhU&mode=related&search=

thats what 100s of people do on garrys mod just to spoil the game for other users, because they get some kind of childish amusment out of it.

 

 

 

iamsickofspam

I don't really understand how somebody could spoil the fun.  if they just start putting stuff out, then kick them out.  if they don't want to play the game and just want to joke around, then kick them out. 

and we don't even know if the online submitted levels can be customized when downloaded. 

70% of what users?gizmo_logix

of garrys mod users.

maybe 70% is too high, id say over 50% spoil it for the others though.

I hate mingebags. Oh and yeah, I think you make your maps alone.ocelotcougar

its not just mingebags who spoil GM though, ive seen normal users spoil it for others, as for making maps alone, the LBP videos ive seen have mutipul users building at the same time.

Maybe its users of the same console, but id expect it has online features. 

[QUOTE="gizmo_logix"]
70% of what users?iamsickofspam

of garrys mod users.

maybe 70% is too high, id say over 50% spoil it for the others though.

[QUOTE="gizmo_logix"]
70% of what users?iamsickofspam

of garrys mod users.

maybe 70% is too high, id say over 50% spoil it for the others though.

im saying a large majority of Garrys Mod users, spoil it.

im not sure how many people play HL2 or GM.

its really hard to explain what i mean to someboby who has no experience of spending half an hour building something only to have somebody join a server and within 2 secconds completely destory everything everybody has worked on and to crash the server by spawning a 1000 objects.

[QUOTE="ocelotcougar"]I hate mingebags. Oh and yeah, I think you make your maps alone.iamsickofspam

its not just mingebags who spoil GM though, ive seen normal users spoil it for others, as for making maps alone, the LBP videos ive seen have mutipul users building at the same time.

Maybe its users of the same console, but id expect it has online features.

i think it's on the same console.   

im saying a large majority of Garrys Mod users, spoil it.

im not sure how many people play HL2 or GM.

its really hard to explain what i mean to someboby who has no experience of spending half an hour building something only to have somebody join a server and within 2 secconds completely destory everything everybody has worked on and to crash the server by spawning a 1000 objects.

 

iamsickofspam

by the looks of it, using GMOD, you can just spawn 100 things in just a few seconds.  in LBP, I don't think you will be able to spawn things that fast. 

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[QUOTE="gizmo_logix"]
70% of what users?RASECUL

of garrys mod users.

maybe 70% is too high, id say over 50% spoil it for the others though.

this much is true, there are people that spoil it, but in most games its the minority that spoil it for the majority.

its just when a game is based on user created content and social interaction within a physhics enviroment, i just think of my garrys mod nightmares of people spawning 250 explosive barrels for no reason and crashing the server and everybodys computers, simply because its funny, and they have little will to be involved in any creative effort.

[QUOTE="iamsickofspam"]

im saying a large majority of Garrys Mod users, spoil it.

im not sure how many people play HL2 or GM.

its really hard to explain what i mean to someboby who has no experience of spending half an hour building something only to have somebody join a server and within 2 secconds completely destory everything everybody has worked on and to crash the server by spawning a 1000 objects.

 

eclipsed4utoo

by the looks of it, using GMOD, you can just spawn 100 things in just a few seconds. in LBP, I don't think you will be able to spawn things that fast.

this is probably the case, but i wonder, untill we all get to play LBP i guess we wont know the full functionality.

[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="gizmo_logix"][QUOTE="iamsickofspam"]

Im not worried about permanent vandalism to your level or whatever, im worried about people spoiling the experience for others, which is a part of allmost all online games, the only difference with LBP compaired to any other online game, is the massive amount of enviromental interaction.

Like i said, from playing that HL 2 mod, ive mentioned, 70% of the users spoil it for the rest of them, now that sounds like a big number, but anybody who has played GM will know exacally where i am coming from.

its a royal pain in the butt.

 

 

watch this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgpF8WurNhU&mode=related&search=

thats what 100s of people do on garrys mod just to spoil the game for other users, because they get some kind of childish amusment out of it.

 

 

 

gizmo_logix

HL 2 = Half Life 2

you posted "halo" to begin with...then you edited it.  that's why I said Half Life 

[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="iamsickofspam"]

im saying a large majority of Garrys Mod users, spoil it.

im not sure how many people play HL2 or GM.

its really hard to explain what i mean to someboby who has no experience of spending half an hour building something only to have somebody join a server and within 2 secconds completely destory everything everybody has worked on and to crash the server by spawning a 1000 objects.

 

iamsickofspam

by the looks of it, using GMOD, you can just spawn 100 things in just a few seconds. in LBP, I don't think you will be able to spawn things that fast.

this is probably the case, but i wonder, untill we all get to play LBP i guess we wont know the full functionality.

agreed.  it's really a wait and see.  only then will we know how fast people can spawn objects. 

[QUOTE="RASECUL"][QUOTE="iamsickofspam"]

[QUOTE="gizmo_logix"]
70% of what users?iamsickofspam

of garrys mod users.

maybe 70% is too high, id say over 50% spoil it for the others though.

this much is true, there are people that spoil it, but in most games its the minority that spoil it for the majority.

its just when a game is based on user created content and social interaction within a physhics enviroment, i just think of my garrys mod nightmares of people spawning 250 explosive barrels for no reason and crashing the server and everybodys computers, simply because its funny, and they have little will to be involved in any creative effort.

I will be getting LBP to play with my friends, I believe you should do the same.  Like I said before, online is overated because there is way too many BS goin on.  

I understand your point now, I'd be concern too if I planned on playing this game with complete strangers. Fortunately, I don't intend to play that game in that manner because it's a mental health suicide. The only online games I enjoy are the ones that are massively played, like great FPS or racing games.

I will be getting LBP to play with my friends, I believe you should do the same. Like I said before, online is overated because there is way too many BS goin on.

RASECUL

Yeah i agree about the mental health suicide, HEHE,

Ill be looking at picking up LBP when it arrives, im just slightly cynical about how its all going to work, its probably just my bad experience on garrys mod, ive had some great times playing some mmorpg's and online fps, and to be honnest the PSN seams pretty cool at the moment, played some good games on resistance with a headset without any morons spoiling it for anybody else.

ive mentioned before in other threads that im not new to gaming, been playing since the late 80s at least, and ive been a pc user for about 8 years.

I just think LBP and GM differ from your average game in that, there isnt really a competitive point to the game, its about social interaction and creativity.

and for some reason in garrys mod, people seamingly get bored and spoil it for everybody else, i dont want to sound like im grouping a whole lot of people, but its mostly adolesent boys/men destroying it for the genuine creative people who like to create something.

i suppose its like making a big line of dominos or a pyramid of cards only to have your little brother or sister walk in and knock it over before you have finnished simply because its funny.

Basically i have some what i think are valid concerns about the gameplay element of little big planet.

Allow me to elaborate, From what i have seen of LBP it seams as if its a kind of network community style build a level/machine type game, random people work together to build/create or solve a puzzle, which isnt a new idea but its probably never been done in this kind of depth before, apart from one game that springs to mind.

 

GARRYS MOD for half life 2, which is an amazing mod with loads of potential, the only problem with garrys mod is immature users who randomly spawn and spam with objects, they interfear with whatever you are making, and they generally just spoil the game, its seamingly become so bad now on garrys mod that version 10 of the modification you have to pay for.

Now paying for LBP might stop undesirables playing and spoiling the network experience, i dont know, but paying for resistance and motorstorm hasnt stopped people glitching and cheating.

As great as LBP looks and as excited as i am about it, i am very concerned that after a couple of months, it will be spoiled by immature people thinking its funny to spawn massive amounts of objects, destroy other peoples creations and basically create absolute hell, this in tern will put genuine creative people off.

The amount of time ive created something like a raft or a working catapult in garrys mod, only to have somebody weld objects to it, rope it to the walls ect.

LBP is going to need some kind of USER MODERATION, it will need the ability to ban people from your game in my opinion.

 

Anybody here who has ever played GARRYS MOD for half life 2, please help me explain to those who have not, how much of a pain some players can be to the experience. 

 

iamsickofspam

those type of ppl ruin everything, not just games, but the internet as well.  there will always be immature people online period, wether its games, or a forum.

Online gaming is way overrated.

I really prefer playing this game with my real life friends rather than playing with someone online.