Getting Sick of Killzone 2

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#1 mikehmuse
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I am going to rant. There will be spelling errors. I'm not a stupid kid or 13. But I have to complain.

FPS is not my first choice of genre. I enjoy games that give you the whole experience, story, connection, gameplay, graphics etc. FPS don't always provide that, but I do enjoy the occassional pwn fest. I own a PS3, but am not a fanboy. I borrowed Killzone 2 for a week or two from my friend after it first launched.

I played the story mode, played online until the General Rank (before the update.) A couple of months later, I had some extra cash and finally bought the game. And I finally emersed myself in the experience. I was able to reach the new two star rank..unlock all the badges (except mission specific badges) and achieve the Valor Grand Cross (Top 1% of players.)

And I had a good time. At this point, I'm so attached I feel like I NEED to achieve commander and chief (100000points) before COD6 comes out. But OVER AND OVER again I find myself hindered by Killzone's team based gameplay.

Playing matches on maps like Blood Gracht or Visari Hammer or PRise its not a problem, but on maps like Tharsis, Radec, and Cornith. It's quite possibly the worst gaming experience. I'm 18.. go to college.. play only on the weekends. And I see these idiots over and over again ruining our teams chances of winning... if you play or don't play killzone, here are some examples...

Throwing spawn points in the middle of nowhere, or in that damn tunnel under Radec Academy.

Throwing spawn points in enemy bases, or in areas where they can easily spawn camp.

NOT THROWING SPAWN POINTS WHEN BEING BASE RAIDED!

Planting bots in side our own base.

Planting bots in long forgotten rooms where NOBODY EVER GOES.

Trying to fight off base raids by staying in the base..

Never taking alternate exits outs.

Being a medic and reviving people RIGHT NEXT TO ENEMIES.

Never shooting down bots.

Trying to hard to be a good sniper when they clearly are not.

Throwing prox mines in areas where gernade throws are abundant.

Getting in the way of ur gernades or your shots.

(AT THIS POINT, IF YOU DON'T EMPATHIZE/SYMPATHIZE... this will bore you to death).

Okay! Look.. in radec academy... when your home base is the one with the tank.. ISA I think. Every game people try to shoot you through the front exit (in that room with the tall storage shelfs and the stairs on the side.) And the entire game people try to throw gernades out that door or try to strafe across and shoot. While your in the back as a sniper or a rifleman KNOWING it takes only one guy to check that door while your other team could flank them and rape them. However people STAY IN THAT ROOM trying to shoot. And it's so infuriating!

Im not the best player. But I know what I'm doing.. I always try to throw good SAFE spawn points. Im constantly planting bots. And I can't remember the last time I had a negative kill to death ratio in a game. But i'm only one man. Killzone 2 is an amazing game it is..

but here is my problem. The makers assumed people were smart. The fact is, EVERYONE IS A **** DUMBASS. AND ITS **** RIDICULOUS. You do not want your score dependent on some 12 year old douche bag trying to shotgun on PRise.. and you don't wanna play against skilless rocket launcher abusers. You can claim that Killzone 2 is a tatical game.. its not. its a cluster **** an absolute choatic cluster **** AND IDC how good you are. The fact is. when your team is bad. it hurts your performance. You can't play how you normally play in certain situations. I don't play with a clan, but I always try to squad up.

And the fact is. You can only really enjoy this game if your playing with friends or a clan. But you'll be so frustrated sometimes its just... gah. AND THE LAG.. OMG THE KILL LAG! I can't tell you the number of times its cost me a kill because I was unsure the guy was dead. If i stop shooting he might get me, if I keep shooting someone else will get me! And im familiar enough with the mechanics of the game to time it just right but not always...

AND THE SHOTGUN! ooo the ridiculous range of that **** shotgun! ITS UNBELIEVABLE SOMETIMES.

Next HUGE flaw with Killzone. BASE RAIDING. I don't care if im doing it. or if its being done to me. ITS not how the game should work. They should have made the bases safer. Given them all ammo crates. Made the base bots super strong and indestructable. That way when they are rushing in on radec. they don't make it through. If not that. Limit the Spawn Points.. instead of a time limit. Make it five players to spawn there and then it goes away. Or make only squad based spawning. Or make certain areas off limits. IDK!

Okay... I need to stop. I'm not bad at the game.. I'm not. My best is 66-22 on Tharsis (20 min 16 player bodycount). My best pistols only is 51 - 18 on Radec. Killstreak of 18. KDR of just under two. Hundred hours online. 33000 points at the moment or so. Most badges... and the honor ranks..

Do you guys sometimes feel the same way? Is killzone 2 multiplayer REALLY that impressive.. the fact is. I played COD4 today for the first time in months and months. and I loved it. Team barely makes a difference if your skilled enough. (I KNOW THAT APPLIES IN KILLZONE ALSO! BUT NOT AS MUCH, IT DOESN'T)

*I apologize for spelling errors. Its about 4 am. I just logged off PSN. I was literally put on a team where everyone had a negative KDR. There were two spawn points in our base. and I spawned to my death three times before quitting. OH and Killzone 2s balancing SUCKS BALLS. They should incorporate peoples stats into faction balancing. NOT just random assignments. AND PUNISH PEOPLE FOR QUITTING.

GODDAMNIT. again sorry for spelling or other crap. Im not proof reading. If you wanna be a douche and find mistakes and point them out fine. But chances are.. i'm smarter than you. And that helps me sleep at night. oh and btw. If your someone who always plays as assault and does the get kills get killed thing. OVER AND OVER. There is a place reserved for you in hell. Right next to prone campers in COD4.

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#2 ElGreco88
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I wouldn't bother playing a game if it pissed me off so bad. After all, it's all about having a good time. That's why there are videogames. I've encountered bad teammates in every multiplayer game I've played. If the gameplay or online experience wouldn't satisfy me, I was trying something else. If I really enjoyed the game, I just overlooked the bad community and tried to have fun.

*Edit* Also there's no reason in starting the same topic twice

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#3 JoKeR_421
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u have 2 screen names and make 2 of the same topics? wow, now i know u might be a troll
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#4 DevilDude3232
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tl;dr. If you don't like it, don't play it. Rant about it on your blog.:roll:

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#5 brakey101
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Boohoo!

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#6 Javieralijandro
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are you 14?
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#7 Kaine666_2
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blog it

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#8 Dante_May_Die
Member since 2008 • 1505 Posts

to TC if you are sick of killzone 2 dont play it :) theres you answer

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#9 MarcRecon
Member since 2009 • 8191 Posts

I sense "ALOT" of tension there fella(it's obvious...your post could fill up the bible)and I'll give you a very to the point response....stop playing the game.:)

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#10 MarcRecon
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to TC if you are sick of killzone 2 dont play it :) theres you answer

Dante_May_Die

We both are on the same page.lol...to the point!!!:D

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#11 Dante_May_Die
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[QUOTE="Dante_May_Die"]

to TC if you are sick of killzone 2 dont play it :) theres you answer

MarcRecon

We both are on the same page.lol...to the point!!!:D

That's the most detailed and simple answer in a thread ive ever seen :p
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#12 MarcRecon
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[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="Dante_May_Die"]

to TC if you are sick of killzone 2 dont play it :) theres you answer

Dante_May_Die

We both are on the same page.lol...to the point!!!:D

That's the most detailed and simple answer in a thread ive ever seen :p

Agreed!! lol

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#13 kweeni
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and we all care soooo much about you opinion!
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#14 SoNin360
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Just stop playing. That's what I did in KZ2 before it really got on my nerves.
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#15 aznpickle
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2 lol he has 2 posts

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#16 brandonk318
Member since 2009 • 91 Posts

I agree with the other guys stop playing but i play killzone 2. I like it but the other day a kid started playing with me and he screamed asking why didn't i join his squad then i joined his squad and he kept demanding for me to do this and that....no i didn't do anything he wanted me to do... The game was fun but the kid was annoying as heck. thank god for friendly fire...lol

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#17 Pdiddy105
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I hate KZ2's online as well. The action is just too messy and chaotic. Its just not built for 32 players, i don't know what guerilla was thinking when they put the cap that high.

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#18 MrGanny
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tl;dr. If you don't like it, don't play it. Rant about it on your blog.:roll:

DevilDude3232

This. I still play it from time to time. But right now, I'm hella addicted to Batman Arkham Asylum.

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#19 DevilDude3232
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[QUOTE="DevilDude3232"]

tl;dr. If you don't like it, don't play it. Rant about it on your blog.:roll:

MrGanny

This. I still play it from time to time. But right now, I'm hella addicted to Batman Arkham Asylum.

Me too! I just beat the game and am trying to get the rest of the riddles and trophies to get platinum. :D

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#20 MrGanny
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[QUOTE="MrGanny"]

[QUOTE="DevilDude3232"]

tl;dr. If you don't like it, don't play it. Rant about it on your blog.:roll:

DevilDude3232

This. I still play it from time to time. But right now, I'm hella addicted to Batman Arkham Asylum.

Me too! I just beat the game and am trying to get the rest of the riddles and trophies to get platinum. :D

Same, I just got the 70% riddle trophy. And I still haven't beat the game lol.

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#21 MassacreMonk
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I hate KZ2's online as well. The action is just too messy and chaotic. Its just not built for 32 players, i don't know what guerilla was thinking when they put the cap that high.

Pdiddy105

Yeah its pretty chaotic alright, kinda like a real war.

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#22 Solid_Cipher
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Dude, if you are sick and tired of playing the game then dont play it. There are many other games you can play. Although it would of been sweet if there was a Gold Trophy for Commander In Cheif Rank.
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#23 Doolz2024
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All I can say is, just don't play the game. I didn't read that wall o' text, btw.

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#24 PimpiNbananas
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i stopped playing back in june

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#25 x-2tha-z
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TC, it's because of people like you that I don't like playing online. You take it far too seriously. You need to relax and learn that not everyone plays these games as much as you and some people aren't as good as you. It isn't the end of the world if you lose.
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#26 Mr_Splosher
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and we all care soooo much about you opinion!kweeni
Uber douche alert!
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#27 Terrencec06
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dont play it

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#28 chaplainDMK
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Yes its a team based shooter. Yes it goes haywire 50% of the time... But when it goes good. Damn its the best FPS i played hehe :D

Yes, spawntards are retarded. Placing spawns on stupid places, or 2 feet from another spawn. Placing bots on places where they can only shoot airbots etc...

Medics that walk over you and dont heal...

Rocket kamikazees...

But just play... Screw them, take out your fav gun and kick ass. If they teamplay, then help them, if they dont then just try to get as many kills as possible.

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#29 Ninja_Zombie83
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Well to the TC, I feel your pain. Yeah you could have blogged this because thats where you should put rants. No, Gamespot doesn't take kindly to people who rant. Now that we have passed that....I agree with you completley! The reason I don't rant though is because I realized a long time ago that Killzone 2 is tactical shooter wannabe. It has a very small margin for error for tactics and most people just want to get in there and shoot something, so it fails pretty often and what you get instead is pure chaos.

The part you need to understand is that one person can make a difference. If tacticals are putting spawnpoints in crappy spots, you need to change your class and show people (not tell them) how its done. If your team is being pwnt, become a medic and help them out. DON'T become irate and blame your team, be a part of the solution, not the problem. If all else fails, join a clan with your friends or skilled people and just play with them.

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#30 RadecSupreme
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Killzone 2 is my favorite game at the moment. This happens with shooters. They become old as any game. I never get tired of Killzone but that is because I am a Helghast fanatic and do clan battles to spice things up. Only thing I can tell you is join a active competitive clan for more tactical and strategic battles.
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#31 jyoung312
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I hate KZ2's online as well. The action is just too messy and chaotic. Its just not built for 32 players, i don't know what guerilla was thinking when they put the cap that high.

Pdiddy105
Well 32 players is alright for the bigger maps like Pyrhus Rise but is total crap on a tiny map like Tharsis. I try to avoid 32 player games on some maps using the 18-24 player filter to avoid cluster fecks and i stay away from Tharsis at all costs. It would be great if GG put a cap on some levels instead of just suggestions but they wanted to leave it up to the players and so players make 32 player tharsis games
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#32 M0wen10
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Wow, I didn't have time to read all of that, but I like KIllzone 2, and many other people would disagree with you

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#33 SPYDER0416
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News flash: NOBODY CARES

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#34 donmega1
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do us all a favor and next time you go online, drop a grenade under your feet.

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#35 ez_moneymaker
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Not everyone has had the same amount of time to play as you. Its just part of gaming, there will always be noobs.
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#36 Keir21
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While I don't agree with the TC as I do think the online community to Killzone is all fine and dandy but wow PS3 forum. Some of you are really going out of your way to be douches. It's his opinion, he can state it. Don't feel the need to come here and rant AT HIM. So what if nobody cares about his opinion. Half of us don't care that you think you're so high and mighty that you can tell him his opinion is worthless. I mean seriously....
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#37 BlackTragedy
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Ive always hated kz2 as i hate the player movment. R2 ftw
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#38 Ninja_Zombie83
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While I don't agree with the TC as I do think the online community to Killzone is all fine and dandy but wow PS3 forum. Some of you are really going out of your way to be douches. It's his opinion, he can state it. Don't feel the need to come here and rant AT HIM. So what if nobody cares about his opinion. Half of us don't care that you think you're so high and mighty that you can tell him his opinion is worthless. I mean seriously....Keir21
Nicley put.
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#39 whitetiger3521
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That's just how online team matches go.. Unless your in a clan or something then the chances are high that your gonna get a team filled with noobs or people who really dont care if they get killed or are productive for the team.

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#40 jyoung312
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That's just how online team matches go.. Unless your in a clan or something then the chances are high that your gonna get a team filled with noobs or people who really dont care if they get killed or are productive for the team.

whitetiger3521
Well I dont mind dying if I am being productive for the team, which is why i feel I am a better player than my .8 k/d ratio suggests (well that and my noob days are still holding me down)
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#41 BPoole96
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I understand your frustrations. I couldn't get into the online of Killzone 2 because of the reasons you mentioned. I think its really cool that Guerilla made the game heavily team based, but that doesn't work when you have idiotic teammates. I HATED when I'd be having a good game, I'd die, get revived right next to a guy with a shotgun, die, etc. Over and over this was happen. I know they were trying to help, but they should be able to recognize that they aren't doing any good at all