God I really HATE Demons Souls

Without a walkthrough you can get completely ****ed in the game almost to the point where you cant enjoy it anymore, i accidentally saved yurin the chief, and now hes gonna kill everyone who helps me in the nexus and i accidentally attacked urbain the saint, so right there i lose all the miracles i could have potentially learned. and in return all i get is his crappy inferior armor. and if i dont kill him i get nothing at all. i wish it was like freke where if i accidentally hurt him he wont be hell bent on killing me, at least this way i suppose i will be able to get the platinum but seriouusly, what the **** man, i even killed like 3 demons and yurin is no where to be found, im scared of returning to the nexus and finding out he was there all along and already killed everyone. jesus

Lol tis intriguing me to buy it. I asked a buddy of mine how it was he said he just gave up lol, mind over matter.

The only game this gen that offers any sort of decent challenge, it's okay to feel frustrated.

I gave up at the second boss. Just too hard for me. But ill eventually return and take it one level at a time.

People bowing out of this game is tempting me to go out and buy it. I want to see if I can beat one of the toughest games this generation or 'itch about it.Symphonycometh

You really should get it. It just takes some time to get used to and most people don't realize it's not a "pick up and play" game. That's why most people quit very early. I played through the game about 9 times and loved it. I'm sure you'll enjoy it as well

Thanks for the SPoiler Alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I already new what was gonna happen, but for other people that is quite messed up.

The only game this gen that offers any sort of decent challenge, it's okay to feel frustrated.

Gxgear

This is all pretty discouraging. I stopped playing back when I bought it... on the first damn level where you're still a spirit. Yeah I know, I'm lame. I've just been too busy to get into it, Dragon Age has been sucking up all of my gaming time. I keep telling myself I'll play it again eventually, but then I keep hearing all this stuff about how its the most frustrating game this gen, and I think those people may be right. I spentan hour and a half working my way toward the end of the first level only to be killed by a trap that I couldn't possibly have known was there until I died by it. That's not fair. If that kind of stuff happens throughout the game I can't see myself enjoying it, especially with the extreme penalty death brings. I can see myself getting sucked into it onlyto have something extremely lame happen again followed by the game being shelved for several more months. It's like I can't bring myself to play a game that I get the feeling will just ultimatelypiss me off, but then I also want the gratification of saying 'yeah, I beat that game'. Ahhh, decisions, decisions. I don't know, I'll probably give it a few more fair shots when I'm done with DA.

This is all pretty discouraging. I stopped playing back when I bought it... on the first damn level where you're still a spirit. Yeah I know, I'm lame. I've just been too busy to get into it, Dragon Age has been sucking up all of my gaming time. I keep telling myself I'll play it again eventually, but then I keep hearing all this stuff about how its the most frustrating game this gen, and I think those people may be right. I spentan hour and a half working my way toward the end of the first level only to be killed by a trap that I couldn't possibly have known was there until I died by it. That's not fair. If that kind of stuff happens throughout the game I can't see myself enjoying it, especially with the extreme penalty death brings. I can see myself getting sucked into it onlyto have something extremely lame happen again followed by the game being shelved for several more months. It's like I can't bring myself to play a game that I get the feeling will just ultimatelypiss me off, but then I also want the gratification of saying 'yeah, I beat that game'. Ahhh, decisions, decisions. I don't know, I'll probably give it a few more fair shots when I'm done with DA.

jamejame

I respect your opinion, but disagree with it being frustrating. To me, it never felt cheap or unfair. Dieing and learning from your mistakes is part of the game, but the game rewards you for playing cautiously and carefully.

Were you playing offline? There should have been written notes on the ground warning of traps and/or bloodstains.

Not that I didnt die to unexpected things, but there are things built into the game to assist players so they dont die to every trap or ambush they happen across.

Regardless, DA:O is a fine game to play instead. :D

@mkaliaz

I actually was playing offline. I forgot about the note system at the time. Problem is, most of the time I play the game I'll be offline for a reason that's long and unnecessary to explain. For the game to be designed around the only fair way of play being by utilizing notes is totally unfair for those that don't have an internet connection. This was the first level, I assume there are levels later with loads and loads of traps. How is someone without an internet connection supposed to know those are there? Are they to just die by nearly every one and then replay the entire level with zero souls over and over until the traps' locations have all been memorized? If that's considered 'challenging' its unnecessarily so.

Also, yes, yes it is. Dragon Age GotY 2009 ftw.

Totally agree with you. It would be quite difficult for a player playing offline to make it through some of the stages without some major frustrations (without reading a guide of course). I probably would have gotten frustrated with it if I was offline too. You can get through it still, sure, but it will probably be a lot more painful.

People bowing out of this game is tempting me to go out and buy it. I want to see if I can beat one of the toughest games this generation or 'itch about it.Symphonycometh

The game is extremely challenging and can even piss you off at many points, but it's a very rewarding game for those who are willing to put in the time and effort to beat it. It's not a pick up and play game by any means, and I think many people didn't do any research on the game before hand. It's definitely my choice for best game of 2009, as well as one of my all-time favorites now. Just a well done game if you dig into it.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

The only game this gen that offers any sort of decent challenge, it's okay to feel frustrated.

ViewtifulScott

I haven't met one yet personally. Perhaps you can offer some recommendations?

At first I couldn't beat 1-1 starting with a barbarian. Then I restarted with a royal and it was so much easier but I got stuck later and restarted with a Temple Knight and then slowly made my way through the game. I put it down for 6 months but picked it up again a week ago and have breezed through most of the game this time. Once you learn the levels you will know where to go to get your starting gear (Crescent Falchion, Regenerator ring, bow, catalyst etc) and you will know how to proceed through each level. I still had trouble navigating the dropping section in 2-2 as I hadn't really learned it the first time but now that I have the game will be even easier.

The first cycle, its more of trial and error with this stuff, but imo, difficulty wise, its quite easy.

Now the second cycle, or New Game + is where the real Demons Souls start. Everything is harder, and mistakes are punished, heavily. So, you are still far from knowing the true face of this game. Which means, for those who got frustrated with their first Playthrough, get afraid of the second :P

Respect your opinion, but i loved the game.

Other NPCs warn you about Yurt and his horrible actions... not only that, but if you ever saved him he will kill 2 random guys that doesnt have anything to do with the history, so that is like a warning of what will happens if you keep him alive... oh yeah, and if you refuse to release him he will curse you and stuff, so you could have judged his character by that :P

hehehehe, curses to you that dont release me ¨releases Yurt¨ OMG thank you dear and kind sir... i loled with his 2 faced act... and then killed him.

I gave up at the second boss. Just too hard for me. But ill eventually return and take it one level at a time.

muller39

I loved it, probably played it more than anyother game in my life. But now I'm just sick of looking at it, I got 74% of the trophies without asking people to hold stuff for a minute8)

While I do respect everyone's opinion and if Demon's Souls is your type of game great.

To me there are way to many other fun games out there to play, and my time is too precious. So I really have no desire to repeat the bang your head against the wall frustration feast that is Demon's Souls.

Wow, i was really thinking about getting this game but after reading all this i dont know now. I mean if this game is such a pain in the a$$ and get people well pissed of i dont know if i want to spend 60 bucks for something like that. I do like a good challange but if a game pisses me off alot then it just ruins the fun for me. I might just rent it to give it a shot.

Respect your opinion, but i loved the game.

Other NPCs warn you about Yurt and his horrible actions... not only that, but if you ever saved him he will kill 2 random guys that doesnt have anything to do with the history, so that is like a warning of what will happens if you keep him alive... oh yeah, and if you refuse to release him he will curse you and stuff, so you could have judged his character by that :P

hehehehe, curses to you that dont release me ¨releases Yurt¨ OMG thank you dear and kind sir... i loled with his 2 faced act... and then killed him.

Marmotas

I kind of "accidentaly" helped him commit suicide. Lets say that I gave him that extra push xD

demons souls is the best game this gen (other than valkyria chronicles)cropcircles

[QUOTE="cropcircles"]demons souls is the best game this gen (other than valkyria chronicles)nashfan22

4 posts, Level 1? You must have just created a new account because your old one was banned/suspended.

Valkyria Chronicles isn't anime bullcrap, the anime Valkyria Chronicles is bullcrap and I couldn't watch 3 episodes of it without it pissing me off. The game Valkyria Chronicles is anything but, the characters don't look like anime, they look like something Pixar would create. VC is a great game, and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

[QUOTE="nashfan22"][QUOTE="cropcircles"]demons souls is the best game this gen (other than valkyria chronicles)Tangmashi

4 posts, Level 1? You must have just created a new account because your old one was banned/suspended.

Valkyria Chronicles isn't anime bullcrap, the anime Valkyria Chronicles is bullcrap and I couldn't watch 3 episodes of it without it pissing me off. The game Valkyria Chronicles is anything but, the characters don't look like anime, they look like something Pixar would create. VC is a great game, and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

AAAAMEN Brother!

Loved every second of VC and its DLC! Felt so bad when I had to put down Selvaria, I kind of understood her. Man, someday, when I have an extra minute, Im so replaying it :D

Without a walkthrough you can get completely ****ed in the game almost to the point where you cant enjoy it anymore, i accidentally saved yurin the chief, and now hes gonna kill everyone who helps me in the nexus and i accidentally attacked urbain the saint, so right there i lose all the miracles i could have potentially learned. and in return all i get is his crappy inferior armor. and if i dont kill him i get nothing at all. i wish it was like freke where if i accidentally hurt him he wont be hell bent on killing me, at least this way i suppose i will be able to get the platinum but seriouusly, what the **** man, i even killed like 3 demons and yurin is no where to be found, im scared of returning to the nexus and finding out he was there all along and already killed everyone. jesus

DangerHiVoltage

the game isnt hard but what can be frustrating is the backtracking it makes you do. there are plenty of herbs to be had for healing. a few bosses can be a pain if you are unprepared but they arent impossible. after you beat the game 4 or 5 times it gets very stale in my opinion. you can only pvp so much before you are totally bored with it. i suppose if there were a reason to cap all my stats i would continue playing but as it is, theres no reason to.

i went thru with a pure melee character, no probs except for king allant but i just upped the ante and kicked him in the nads and chopped his head off, kind of... this was my first char, no guide, and dont ask how but i beat flamelurker first try but have yet to beat him ever againmr_winklebottom

Flamelurker is not really tough on the first go. Its more of a patience game. But since he takes 3-4 hits to kill you, its ok.

The problem comes in the New Game +, where he will kill you with 1-2 hits, making him a lot tougher.

TC, it seems that Demon's Souls has defeated you.

Beat the game and show it who's boss.

The game is challenging at times but certainly isn't too difficult to make me want to quit. I'm on NG+++++ right now and just need four more trophies for platinum. I need to get back to playing it.

What I usually do is hang around the beginning of a level and wait for a soul sign or 2 to drop, so I can summon someone and it makes the game more fun. Sure it's random, and sure it takes a while. But it is well worth it in the end when you have a buddy by your side defeating giant demon's spawned from hell.

Have you seen the gamespot video review? They did say that it is very hard.

demons souls is the best game this gen (other than valkyria chronicles)cropcircles

TC I beat the whole game on my first playthrough without a guide and the only bosses that gave me any real trouble were Flame Lurker and the False King. yes I died fighting a few other bosses (1-2, 2-3) but only a couple times. in fact after I beat the flame lurker I didn't die very often until I got to 1-4. you want to know how I did it? I played slowly and cautiously.

played as a thief too. 15 vit, upgraded daggers and buckler through most of the game. I didn't even find out about the purple flame shield until i was almost done.

[QUOTE="cropcircles"]demons souls is the best game this gen (other than valkyria chronicles)Panosola

[QUOTE="Panosola"][QUOTE="cropcircles"]demons souls is the best game this gen (other than valkyria chronicles)paperdollparade

[QUOTE="paperdollparade"][QUOTE="Panosola"] I have rent the game and i have play for 1 hour and i already bored.Do you think it is worth to buy this game...?I mean.....the graphics are not very good and the gameplay is a little slow and linear.Did the game get better later or it is only the first stage boring..?I have play only the first stage.Panosola