Gran Turismo adding damage to cars but should they include a destruction derby?

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#1 odin2019
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Since GT5 is adding damage to the cars should they also add a destruction derby mode? Destruction derby was made by a different company for ps but still I think it would be a great add on for online play if done well as if the damage to the cars really impacts them like it should then it would a lot harder to drive the car not just look at it.
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#2 masiisam
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DD was one of my favorite games for the PS1..

I don't know how it would implement well if it compromised the physics model...In DD I remember I wanted to crash into another car..If you are penalized to heavy I think it would affect the core game play of DD mode

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#3 thelastguy
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If it is such an issue to get damage in the game, I highly doubt the manufacturers would allow a demolition derby.
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#4 CTUDude
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If it is such an issue to get damage in the game, I highly doubt the manufacturers would allow a demolition derby.thelastguy
I always thought that was the biggest concern with Damage. Manufacturers don't want to see their cars get all smashed up and what not.
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#5 signore
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You clearly have never played, or been a fan of the GT series if that is a serious suggestion. You should play Burnout instead (i love both)
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#6 HULKMANIA_001
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you know what I highly doubt their will be an option like that, it wouldnt go with the overall driving sim, as the post above me stated your better of getting burnout instead. Ps. any news on damage for GT5 Prolouge?
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#7 masiisam
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I don't understand how people can still think the reason damage is held up is because of manufactures reluctance to have their vehicles banged up.....The same high end manufactures have "allowed" damage in at least 5 other games...Why would they now turn into a "nope we cant allow damage because it will affect our brand"

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#8 robmonga2
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I'm behind, GT5 is adding damage? Link please, I kinda looked around on the web quickly but didn't find anything.
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#9 idill23
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No, Motorstorm 3 should.
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#10 TheSystemLord1
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uh...no thanks.
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I don't understand how people can still think the reason damage is held up is because of manufactures reluctance to have their vehicles banged up.....The same high end manufactures have "allowed" damage in at least 5 other games...Why would they now turn into a "nope we cant allow damage because it will affect our brand"

masiisam

I think the manufactuer in question is Ferrari, since they are not in any other game with damage. All it takes is one, it would be pretty dumb if cars from a particular brand were immune to damage.

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#12 robmonga2
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Um, what about GT4 then? So I guess that must have been them being lazy about damage?(no sarcasm).
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#13 SHERBO64
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if you're immature like i probably will be, you'll just drive the opposite way around the tracks to the rest of the drivers to see some carnage! don't worry, i won't do it online, and ruin all your days :)
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#15 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

I don't understand how people can still think the reason damage is held up is because of manufactures reluctance to have their vehicles banged up.....The same high end manufactures have "allowed" damage in at least 5 other games...Why would they now turn into a "nope we cant allow damage because it will affect our brand"

thelastguy

I think the manufactuer in question is Ferrari, since they are not in any other game with damage. All it takes is one, it would be pretty dumb if cars from a particular brand were immune to damage.

Ahhhh..that's not true...Even Ferrari Challenge has damage..not to mention FM and FM2

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#16 burock76
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the GT series has always had a different approach to racing than any other game. I highly doubt that it will have a destruction mode, and if it did it would be no different than other racers. I love the game the way it is.
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#17 coughlanio
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IIRC NFS: MW and Carbon had damage in the form of scratches :P
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#18 benz1980i
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I doubt they could get the damage to be as realistic as we would all hope- think about how much detail there is in the game now, plus the amount of cars and tracks. Considering they are all about 'the real simulator' or whatever their slogan is I couldn't see them adding a demolition derby mode.

Mind you I think it would be freakn awesome. Maybe they could have a crash test mode where you drive into cement blocks etc etc like they do in life. Just to show off the physics (I am dreaming about realistic damage)

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#19 Kurushio
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I have all GT's but really it never seemed to be 100% real to me. Its impossible to really do a donut which i know sounds dumb but you cant. You also cant do any kind of drifting around corners and im not talking about arcade drifting but drifting by using a ton of extra power to spin the tires around a turn. Also there have been a few times hitting the wall where i should of flipped over and over but you never ever do. So i hope that now that really make things much more "realistic" than ever before.
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#20 Dlerious590
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Having a demolition derby in gran turismo just wouldn't be gran turismo in my opinion but i think adding damage is a good thing because it would reduce the amount of driving against the walls to get round very sharp corners at 160mph lol which I did alot of in Gran Turismo 4.
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#21 deactivated-58319077a6477
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I don't really care if the game has damage or not, I just want the game to be out next year. Anyway GT developer said they are having trouble with Ferrari because they don't want to see their cars get damage.
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#22 Famous30
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this is probly the dumbest topic ever created

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I don't understand how people can still think the reason damage is held up is because of manufactures reluctance to have their vehicles banged up.....The same high end manufactures have "allowed" damage in at least 5 other games...Why would they now turn into a "nope we cant allow damage because it will affect our brand"

masiisam

Dude there is a big difference with a simulator and an arcade game...in a sim manufactures give allsorts of detail to developers to make it as realistic as possible...in arcade the give a body and maybe interior and the rest is down to he developer so yes it's a big deal to them

damage has its issue...like in GTA4 did anyone notice the yellow band on the steering wheel? There was a in car view but they scraped it...when the car takes damage the interior gets bent out of shape...so the driver animations wont work...I could go on and on

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#24 West123
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I have all GT's but really it never seemed to be 100% real to me. Its impossible to really do a donut which i know sounds dumb but you cant. You also cant do any kind of drifting around corners and im not talking about arcade drifting but drifting by using a ton of extra power to spin the tires around a turn. Also there have been a few times hitting the wall where i should of flipped over and over but you never ever do. So i hope that now that really make things much more "realistic" than ever before.Kurushio

Dude im with you all the way!!! Why cant the wheels spin in GT??? totally unrealistic

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#25 Sokol4ever
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DD in GT series? That will not happen..

Gran Turismo is very much different in its approach, I personally believe no car damage is needed but if they do make one, I hope it does have options to not use it..

I had been enjoying GT for the last 9 years and Kazunori should continue to do what he always does.  

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#26 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

I don't understand how people can still think the reason damage is held up is because of manufactures reluctance to have their vehicles banged up.....The same high end manufactures have "allowed" damage in at least 5 other games...Why would they now turn into a "nope we cant allow damage because it will affect our brand"

West123

Dude there is a big difference with a simulator and an arcade game...in a sim manufactures give allsorts of detail to developers to make it as realistic as possible...in arcade the give a body and maybe interior and the rest is down to he developer so yes it's a big deal to them

damage has its issue...like in GTA4 did anyone notice the yellow band on the steering wheel? There was a in car view but they scraped it...when the car takes damage the interior gets bent out of shape...so the driver animations wont work...I could go on and on

Did you quote me by accident? Because your post has absolutely nothing to do with the premise of my comment...

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#27 West123
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[QUOTE="West123"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

I don't understand how people can still think the reason damage is held up is because of manufactures reluctance to have their vehicles banged up.....The same high end manufactures have "allowed" damage in at least 5 other games...Why would they now turn into a "nope we cant allow damage because it will affect our brand"

masiisam

Dude there is a big difference with a simulator and an arcade game...in a sim manufactures give allsorts of detail to developers to make it as realistic as possible...in arcade the give a body and maybe interior and the rest is down to he developer so yes it's a big deal to them

damage has its issue...like in GTA4 did anyone notice the yellow band on the steering wheel? There was a in car view but they scraped it...when the car takes damage the interior gets bent out of shape...so the driver animations wont work...I could go on and on

Did you quote me by accident? Because your post has absolutely nothing to do with the premise of my comment...

Yeah I did...I didnt want to write a novel in the forums...but I was saying that bmw for example let arcade games smash their cars... because its not a simulator... the cars in an arcade game share nothing in common with their real life counter parts ( apart from looks) so its easier for bmw to agree on damage when its all for fun...but for a simulator it takes a whole lot of cash to convince them to damage the cars...since its trying to be as close to the original as possible...they take safety very seriously( air bags should deploy, crumple zones..etc) so having damage might put of buyers ( stupid I know but hay people blame GTA for shootings in schools) so hope I didn't offend you and have a nice day sorry for the wall

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#28 kingdre
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In a word: no.
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#29 bukkookkub
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EVERYONE's so serious! I've been a fan of the GT series since it's debut on the PS1, buuutt.. who says we can't agree on a few rounds of stop in the grass and let's settle this. Obviously it'd have to be room voted on, or i'd be mad too thinking I was going to be all serious in that race.