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#1 mgfarmer
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Ok, so I have yet to get an HDTV and I know the quality on a SDTV will not be as good as a HD, but was wondering if its normal to get some slight screen flickers and choppiness during gameplay on a SDTV? I noticed it mostly with NCAA Football 09. When a player is running or in movement it looks like the graphics for the field are slightly choppy. If the player is still it looks fine. Is this more of a framerate problem?
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#2 mgfarmer
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bttt
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#3 kenshinhimura16
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Looks great. But some games have almost unreadable characters because they didnt though of us (so far Timeshift and Condemned 2)
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#4 FuaTokoFau
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i dont know what the deal is with ps3 and sdtv. I remember playing FIFA 08 on an SDTV and having to manage a really ridiculous broadcast camera. The players were so tiny talkless of the ball. Then i got an HDTV and was like...WOW! Now, all my friends want to play fifa at my place. LOL. I wish i knew why it worked that way. I tried everything i could think off while saving for 5 months to buy an HDTV.
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#5 verbalfilth
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Personally, I found that it displayed well on an SDTV, but my major issue with gaming on an SDTV was the text size...I had to literally more really close to the screen to read a lot of things that were in-game text....but I fixed this by purchasing a component cable....It doesn't create a whole world of improvement, but it is noticeable and much better...I don't have to press my face to the screen anymore in order to read stuff lol....so if your SDTV supports component cables I strongly suggest you invest in some...

but if you want a better gaming experience without and HDTV, then I recommend you carry out some research on Flat Screen PC monitors that contain HDMI/DVI and HDCP ...as well as support 1:1 aspect ratio.

Not as expensive (or effective) as an HDTV, but it's the next best thing I guess.

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#6 Androvinus
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your sdtv just sucked major donkey ***. Fifa 08 looks amazing on my SD
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#7 -Dionysus-
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I have a pretty good sdtv and it looks fine.
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#8 Lauryn2000
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I was having issues when I played MLB 09 on my standard,that I didn't have when I played MLB 08.

I don't know if it was the firm ware upgrade but the players and background were extremely blurry,which
made me end up getting a 32" Samsung HDTV about two months later.

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#9 skp_16
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I only have 2 games so far (MGS4 and Oblivion) and play on SDTV. I have no problem reading text. I turned on the subtitles in MGS4 and I can clearly read it about 3 meters away.

Graphic wise...both game already "wowed" me. Hehe! I'm not really into graphics so I'm ok with it. I still play PS2 from time to time and have no problems dealing with the graphics.

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my Sd tv is awesome... and i play on my dads like 48 inch hdtv when ever he lets me... but i dont really see a diffrence
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#11 verbalfilth
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I only have 2 games so far (MGS4 and Oblivion) and play of SDTV. I have no problem reading text. I turned on the subtitles in MGS4 and I can clearly read it about 3 meters away.

Graphic wise...both game already "wowed" me. Hehe! I'm not really into graphics so I'm ok with it. I still play PS2 from time to time and have no problems dealing with the graphics.

skp_16

Yeah the subtitles are pretty good in MGS4, but have you tried to read the items you're picking up?It looks like you're reading tiny binary codes.

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I only have 2 games so far (MGS4 and Oblivion) and play of SDTV. I have no problem reading text. I turned on the subtitles in MGS4 and I can clearly read it about 3 meters away.

Graphic wise...both game already "wowed" me. Hehe! I'm not really into graphics so I'm ok with it. I still play PS2 from time to time and have no problems dealing with the graphics.

skp_16

Thats because both games were made with 480p also in mind. Many games were made like this, Resistance for example also has clear text.

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#13 janti_hakouz
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I found those pics while searching:

HD

HD

SD

SD

HD 2


SD 2

Check this forum post also. It's the 4th post.

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#14 polishkid99
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I found those pics while searching:

HD

HD

SD

SD

HD 2


SD 2

Check this forum post also. It's the 4th post.

janti_hakouz

my tv looks like the HD pictures?.... i dont have a crappy tv its a widescreen... anyways it looks exactly like the HD samles you showed.. no where near the SD ones you showed

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#15 janti_hakouz
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Don't know, found them in the PlayStation forums a long time ago, kept them for reference.
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#16 RawhideSphinx
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You will not be able to read anything on the Playstation store at all. I had a 36 inch SDTV before with 800 lines of resolution and I could only guess what was written. Some games have this same issue.
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Question, I have a hdtv yet playin GTA4 looks so blurry, do i need to buy component cables to get the hd look?
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Question, I have a hdtv yet playin GTA4 looks so blurry, do i need to buy component cables to get the hd look?icytony

ya

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your sdtv just sucked major donkey ***. Fifa 08 looks amazing on my SDAndrovinus

what type of camera do you use? I have to use sideline to see my players well but that reduces the whole field perspective. It is manageable on broadcast but compare the broadcast on 08 with that on 07 or 06 on an SDTV and you will see what i am talking about. Then take you 08 and put it on an HDTV and you'll never want to go back.

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Question, I have a hdtv yet playin GTA4 looks so blurry, do i need to buy component cables to get the hd look?icytony

You have to get HDMI cables. Although component cables are fine too. An HDMI cable is better than component cables

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ummm.. help guys... i looked at the back of my tv and and the place where you plug in audio/pictures things its sais video above it....then i looked a little bit up and it said component with more slots blue, red, etc...does that mean its an hdtv? can i buy componant cables for it?...
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MGS4 on SDTV = Horrid
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[QUOTE="icytony"]Question, I have a hdtv yet playin GTA4 looks so blurry, do i need to buy component cables to get the hd look?FuaTokoFau

You have to get HDMI cables. Although component cables are fine too. An HDMI cable is better than component cables

I have hdmi but my tv does not have the hook-up
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#24 polishkid99
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MGS4 on SDTV = HorridReaperV7

really that bad?... im getting mgs4 tumoro... still trying to find out if my tv is an hdtv or not lol

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#25 kenshinhimura16
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[QUOTE="ReaperV7"]MGS4 on SDTV = Horridpolishkid99

really that bad?... im getting mgs4 tumoro... still trying to find out if my tv is an hdtv or not lol

I found it to be amazing graphically speaking, sometimes getting as good as a CG movie. But I have a flat screen SD TV so that may make a difference.

Also, it seems that the guy who uploaded the pics didnt knew about the Screen option in Warhawk.

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#26 Djinnator
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I found those pics while searching:

janti_hakouz

I think that the SDTV wasn't hooked up properly because bits of the game were offscreen. When I used my PS3 on an SD TV, I played Folklore, The biggest differences were that I couldn't read the text and there was a little less detail, now I use a 720p HDTV which makes the text easier to read and details like textures are clearer. Currently I use my SDTV to play Xbox360 and everything looks fine, just crisper on the HDTV when I get the chance to hook it up there.

BTW I removed the pics from your post to conserve space.

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ummm.. help guys... i looked at the back of my tv and and the place where you plug in audio/pictures things its sais video above it....then i looked a little bit up and it said component with more slots blue, red, etc...does that mean its an hdtv? can i buy componant cables for it?...polishkid99

hey can someone answer this if they can please!!:P

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#28 skp_16
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MGS4 on SDTV = HorridReaperV7

MGS4 of SDTV looks great man.

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#29 skp_16
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I found those pics while searching:

HD

HD

SD

SD

HD 2


SD 2

Check this forum post also. It's the 4th post.

janti_hakouz

The SDTV looks like it was made in the 90's. Hehe!

Graphics on my SD looks like the one in HD above.

Edit: My SDTV is a bulky flat screen. Sony Trinitron.

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#30 icytony
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yes it is buddy, talkin to Polishkid99
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#31 polishkid99
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u shure? i dont want to go buy hdmi cables id its not there $15 at gamestop @,@

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#32 impu15e
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The graphics still look great on an SDTV (I have at my apartmen), but when I take my PS3 back to my parents house, it looks a lot better. The graphics just look sharper (the textures, and colors don't change), but the image just looks more crisp. You can also actually read the text without coming so close to your television screen. Everything is just magnified a lot more. I definitely think its worth it.
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#33 icytony
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thought u said component cables not hdmi

u shure? i dont want to go buy hdmi cables id its not there $15 at gamestop @,@

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[QUOTE="polishkid99"]ummm.. help guys... i looked at the back of my tv and and the place where you plug in audio/pictures things its sais video above it....then i looked a little bit up and it said component with more slots blue, red, etc...does that mean its an hdtv? can i buy componant cables for it?...polishkid99

Yes you can buy component cables with it. Red, blue and green are your video cables. It will also come with red and white cables . The latter are your audio. On an SDTV component is slightly better than analog.

hey can someone answer this if they can please!!:P

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#35 polishkid99
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so... is component...hdmi?...or just standard?
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#36 FuaTokoFau
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so... is component...hdmi?...or just standard?polishkid99

HDTVs have connections for HDMI cables. HDMI cables will give you the best picture and sound (if we are comparing to component and analog). HDTVs also have connections for component cables and will give you a decent picture.

Some SDTVs allow component connections but do not allow HDMI connections.

My issue with FIFA is that somehow on SDTVs the aspect ratio is affected. Even on the start up screen of FIFA 08 you can see the ball near Ronaldinhos boots and the boots are then cut off on an SDTV, but on an HDTV you see the ball and his whole boot and even more space. As far as I know component cables do not adjust for aspect ratio issues they just produce better pictures.