GS's LBP review...

is anyone else a shocked at this statement?

"Building a compelling level can be time-consuming." They pointed that out as a negative. I can agree that a short single player and goofy camera are legitimate complaints but building a compelling level being time-consuming? Why didn't they say that about other games' map editors? building anything intricate and detailed takes time. this just seems like nit-picking to me. any other thoughts?

I agree with you, I think they were purposely looking for more negatives because like I just said, your right, it DOES take time and shouldn't be a bad.

wow guys, just becuase it didnt get a 10 does not mean u have to get all pissed and make stupid threads Egyptman786

This. While I don't agree with it being flawed for that 9 is a bloody great score regardless of they flaw it for.

i don't think its nit picking. Having played the beta

I know its a downright false statment!!!!!

I would have knocked off the time consuming level making under bad and replaced it with repetitive. Its an awesome and extremely unique game, but there are only so many aspects to the levels no matter how you dress them up.gamer_marrik

wow guys, just becuase it didnt get a 10 does not mean u have to get all pissed and make stupid threads Egyptman786

did i say it had to get a perfect 10? no, i merely stated that the complaint about making levels being time consuming is reaching for problems. if it takes too much precious time, then why play the game? the whole point of user generated content is to spend time making creative expressions through the game. i just think it's a nit-picky complaint.

[QUOTE="Egyptman786"]wow guys, just becuase it didnt get a 10 does not mean u have to get all pissed and make stupid threads jtickner

This. While I don't agree with it being flawed for that 9 is a bloody great score regardless of they flaw it for.

Hmmm... *walks around and picks a spot* I think I'm going to rant here.

Now listen up you insecure human beings. Since when was 9 a bad score? It seems that you people need some sort of justification for your game purchases - which is just plain sad.

"Oh my gawd! I just pre-ordered LBP, and I hope it's good!" And so you want high reviews because knowing in the back of your heads that GS gave it 0.5 lower than IGN will hinder your game experiences. That's just shallow.

Having the game isn't good enough? The game you hoped to get 10s and crap didn't get what you wanted? Suck it up. If you don't like the score, then ignore it - because apperently, you guys don't care about reviews, right?

Hmmm... *walks around and picks a spot* I think I'm going to rant here.

Now listen up you insecure human beings. Since when was 9 a bad score? It seems that you people need some sort of justification for your game purchases - which is just plain sad.

"Oh my gawd! I just pre-ordered LBP, and I hope it's good!" And so you want high reviews because knowing in the back of your heads that GS gave it 0.5 lower than IGN will hinder your game experiences. That's just shallow.

Having the game isn't good enough? The game you hoped to get 10s and crap didn't get what you wanted? Suck it up. If you don't like the score, then ignore it - because apperently, you guys don't care about reviews, right?

hazelnutman

calm down u r scaring me :(

[QUOTE="hazelnutman"]

Hmmm... *walks around and picks a spot* I think I'm going to rant here.

Now listen up you insecure human beings. Since when was 9 a bad score? It seems that you people need some sort of justification for your game purchases - which is just plain sad.

"Oh my gawd! I just pre-ordered LBP, and I hope it's good!" And so you want high reviews because knowing in the back of your heads that GS gave it 0.5 lower than IGN will hinder your game experiences. That's just shallow.

Having the game isn't good enough? The game you hoped to get 10s and crap didn't get what you wanted? Suck it up. If you don't like the score, then ignore it - because apperently, you guys don't care about reviews, right?

psyum

calm down u r scaring me :(

lol sorry :P

Instead of unleashing my fury on multiple threads, I like to make it all concentrated :D I'm done now, promise ;)

haha yeah i laughed at the one building takes time as a negative as well

i think the reviewer has been playing too much oldies are somin and wants games to be quick

come on buddy, every game has tasks that TAKE A LONG TIME. i guess its a negative i have to prestige in cod to get gold guns, its a negative to level up my characters in jrpg games, oh and i guess actually making a dynasty in NHL 09 is too long now

[QUOTE="Egyptman786"]wow guys, just becuase it didnt get a 10 does not mean u have to get all pissed and make stupid threads mrpear

did i say it had to get a perfect 10? no, i merely stated that the complaint about making levels being time consuming is reaching for problems. if it takes too much precious time, then why play the game? the whole point of user generated content is to spend time making creative expressions through the game. i just think it's a nit-picky complaint.

having played the beta (and really liking it) there are many things that he could have said in the negatives, but the fact that making good levels is time consuming does not reflect badly on the game.

I agree with you, I think they were purposely looking for more negatives because like I just said, your right, it DOES take time and shouldn't be a bad.

JordanKid

When a reviewer craps on a game *cough* Army Of Two *cough* because of his views on the Iraq war, thus resulting in a low score. You can expect crap like this to continue. Gamespot is a joke.

Yeah everyone was expecting a 9.5 but a 9.0 is a good score. Can't wait to pick this up and use a gift card.

is anyone else a shocked at this statement?

"Building a compelling level can be time-consuming." They pointed that out as a negative. I can agree that a short single player and goofy camera are legitimate complaints but building a compelling level being time-consuming? Why didn't they say that about other games' map editors? building anything intricate and detailed takes time. this just seems like nit-picking to me. any other thoughts?

mrpear

I think the complaint about the time it takes to make a level is fair. While alot of us will be willing to put in the hours it takes to build the levels we have been imagining, not everyone will have the patience for it. I get the feeling alot of casual gamers will go into the level creater thinking it'll be a piece of cake, then come out of it a little jaded after realising it takes more than 20 minutes to make an awesome level.

But hey, a 9 is still a really great score, right? :D

I think the complaint about the time it takes to make a level is fair. While alot of us will be willing to put in the hours it takes to build the levels we have been imagining, not everyone will have the patience for it. I get the feeling alot of casual gamers will go into the level creater thinking it'll be a piece of cake, then come out of it a little jaded after realising it takes more than 20 minutes to make an awesome level.

But hey, a 9 is still a really great score, right? :D

SillySkeleton

Whatever, at-least it got a decent score. Do you think it would be the same if it were for 360?T-Machine99

Yes it would have. Screaming "the bias" is getting old now.

i hate how, wen they do previews, they make everything sound amazing. then they go "oh" and give it a lower score then they built up

reading all the previews littlebigplanet is this this this n this (all fantastic things) n now the review they say it takes too long? they knew that awhile ago yet never mentioned it

all in all, i feel its an unfair review. any game that will impact online gaming the way this one will, deserves better than a nine.

[QUOTE="jtickner"]

[QUOTE="Egyptman786"]wow guys, just becuase it didnt get a 10 does not mean u have to get all pissed and make stupid threads king23_

This. While I don't agree with it being flawed for that 9 is a bloody great score regardless of they flaw it for.

The way you put it it sounds more like a cautionary note to players, which i agree should be in the review but the way the reviewer put it counts it as a negative which IMO is asinine for reasons others have already stated.

Also, i think one of the main reasons it takes so long to make good lvls, especially when you just start, is because you have to build almost every single item from scratch, which if you didn't plan ahead or don't have a lot of experience with the tools consists of mostly trial and error. it took a few hours for me to get a simple conveyor belt to work the way i wanted it to and i made a couple of different versions before that too, but once you've made the item you can save it. after a while you have a large selection of items to choose from and crafting lvls is much faster.

I would also like to point out to other readers complaining that people here are complaining about the score that the original post raised no qualms with the numerical score of the game only the contents of the writen review.

is anyone else a shocked at this statement?

"Building a compelling level can be time-consuming." They pointed that out as a negative. I can agree that a short single player and goofy camera are legitimate complaints but building a compelling level being time-consuming? Why didn't they say that about other games' map editors? building anything intricate and detailed takes time. this just seems like nit-picking to me. any other thoughts?

mrpear

I think the reviewer thought of the score in his mind before he wrote the review, and couldn't find enough flaws to make it sound like it derserved a 9 and not something higher.

This is just downright silly. This is exactly what a review is supposed to contain. The game got a superb rating, but not a perfect one, and there has to be a reason for that. It is the job of a reviewer to let us know both where the game shines and where it falls short. Period. If a reviewer skips over the faults, be them minor, they are failures at their job! They have not truly given us a fair representation of the experience, and have, as such, failed in their duty to let the community know what they should expect for their bottom dollar.

This is just downright silly. This is exactly what a review is supposed to contain. The game got a superb rating, but not a perfect one, and there has to be a reason for that. It is the job of a reviewer to let us know both where the game shines and where it falls short. Period. If a reviewer skips over the faults, be them minor, they are failures at their job! They have not truly given us a fair representation of the experience, and have, as such, failed in their duty to let the community know what they should expect for their bottom dollar.

elemental_drago

Gamespot has crossed that line 4 years ago:?

is anyone else a shocked at this statement?

"Building a compelling level can be time-consuming." They pointed that out as a negative. I can agree that a short single player and goofy camera are legitimate complaints but building a compelling level being time-consuming? Why didn't they say that about other games' map editors? building anything intricate and detailed takes time. this just seems like nit-picking to me. any other thoughts?

mrpear

i mean..WTH ???? its a level creator game...and OF COURSE it will be time consuming !!!.........

and i agree 100% with your post

@LORDDICE

Too true. Looks like you beat me to the post though! Damn... :P

Once thing to keep in mind is that a review is simply one other person's opinion of the game.

This person's opinion you're complaining about just happened to post it on a huge gaming site.

I'm not saying I agree with the review, but just take any review with a grain of salt. You may or may not always agree with it.

Take Dead Space for example, GameSpot gave it a 9.0, GameInformer game it a 9.25, IGN gave it an 8.7 while OXM game it a 6.5. Obviously, not everyone's going to have the same opinion. There's games that poeple praise that I think suck, then there's game that I adore that people hate and bash.

And besides, the GS reviewer may think the game's a 9, but you may think it's a 10. It's still the same game.

[QUOTE="elemental_drago"]

This is just downright silly. This is exactly what a review is supposed to contain. The game got a superb rating, but not a perfect one, and there has to be a reason for that. It is the job of a reviewer to let us know both where the game shines and where it falls short. Period. If a reviewer skips over the faults, be them minor, they are failures at their job! They have not truly given us a fair representation of the experience, and have, as such, failed in their duty to let the community know what they should expect for their bottom dollar.

Denji

Gamespot has crossed that line 4 years ago:?

Granted, I have certainly seen reviews here that I have disagreed with (both scores I found to be too high, and scores I found to be low), but without the input consisting of both highs and lows, I would be incapable of deciding what value each holds to me personally. I may not mind repetitive gameplay within the right genre (I may downright expect it, really). Maybe I just don't give a hoot about multiplayer. A valid representation of what I can expect from a game is what a review should contain, peppered with the opinion of the reviewer, of course. But I want to know enough to be able to make my own decision. If the level creator isn't as quick and easy as the advertising department over at media molecule wants me to believe, I want to know. I was going to play the "publish-my-own-levels" idea by ear, but if it really isn't as quick and easy as I hoped originally, I probably won't now, as I just don't have the time to spare. I'm sure I'm not alone, either, and that can/will effect the gameplay, since that was a big part of it (both the creating and the downloading of others creations).

Now, me personally, I'm still going to buy this title. Been looking forward to it for far too long now to turn back now, but for others, this may be crucial information. All I'm saying is that a reviewer needs to give a fuller representation of the experience on offer. Season to taste (or opinion), but let us know, and subsequently read between the lines if we're smart enough ;)