GTA IV: LC based on NY the reason behind no planes??

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#1 chrisius007
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You work it out.

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#2 bumhats
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Never thought of that, kinda good point though.
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#3 ocelotcougar
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Gamespot mentions that in their coverage of the new Game Informer.
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#4 The_Rick_14
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if they were really shooting for accuracy with NYC, then it wouldn't make sense.  No one buys a plane ticket to go from the Bronx to Manhattan, so why should airports exist to do such a thing.

Also the issue of 9/11.

They needed the plain in SA because of the one overseas mission.  That's really the only reason. 

I will say though, I always had a good time flying over restricted airspace and just sitting there until they blew me outa the sky. lol 

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#5 NYCPrincess
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if they were really shooting for accuracy with NYC, then it wouldn't make sense. No one buys a plane ticket to go from the Bronx to Manhattan, so why should airports exist to do such a thing.

Also the issue of 9/11.

They needed the plain in SA because of the one overseas mission. That's really the only reason.

I will say though, I always had a good time flying over restricted airspace and just sitting there until they blew me outa the sky. lol

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Good Point.

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#8 stl_rams28
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The only two reasons I can think of is 9/11 or that planes are unnecessary in NY. I don't know why some sick person would want to try and re-enact 9/11, I would punch them in the face.

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#11 The_Rick_14
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in SA, you would be stupid to tell me it wasnt fun to take a plane into the sky and just fly around and land at an airport or jump out of the sky

screw 9/11 who cares, its a dam video game, rockstar needs to grow a pair and stick it to the govt.

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Yea it was fun for like 5 mins, then I got bored and wanted to actually play some missions.  Even the one time when you need to fly the plane, it was annoying.

When they're shooting to create a virtual NY basically, its unnecessary to have planes anyway.  The map will be smaller than SA anyway. 

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#12 Pablo620
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Gamespot mentions that in their coverage of the new Game Informer.ocelotcougar

Seriously why cant people read, whats wrong with this country. They dont want 9/11 mimicking, this country has become too sensitive and political. for example there was a college football team that painted the visitors locker room in their stadium  completely pink as a joke to whomever they were playing at home. The activists went crazy

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small in size but large in detail. :|
Imagine stuffing a dead man into a garbage can ;) now that would be tight

 

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#14 socomn00b
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small in size but large in detail. :|
Imagine stuffing a dead man into a garbage can ;) now that would be tight

 

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I think you're on to something, that would rule haha.
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#15 XL83
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The only two reasons I can think of is 9/11 or that planes are unnecessary in NY. I don't know why some sick person would want to try and re-enact 9/11, I would punch them in the face.

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Who cares if its unnecessary? Beating up a 70 year old woman with brass knuckles or a crow bar isn't necessary, but it's part of the GTA series. If they only put what was "necessary" into those games they would be  just like any other lame action game. Flying was one of the best parts of SA, the great F-14 at the hangar, the jetpack, skydiving over Vegas... it doesn't make any sense to just take it out. Vice City and San Andreas were released after 9/11 and they both had planes. Once again its probably just Rockstar's hype machine, wait until some REAL info is released, not just "Game Informer makes up a scoop to have something to write about". 

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#16 queenster08
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small in size but large in detail. :|
Imagine stuffing a dead man into a garbage can ;) now that would be tight

 

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Probably smaller in size because of the 360, but noone official will probably talk like that.

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#17 americahellyeah
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as long as there choppers i'm at ease with the lack of planes, it sure would have had some great possibilites, there will probably be more building with parachutes to jump off though

 

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#18 The_Rick_14
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[QUOTE="XL83"]

Vice City and San Andreas were released after 9/11 and they both had planes.

Yes, but they weren't exact replicas of actual cities. They were completely fictional. Big difference.

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#19 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="XL83"]

Vice City and San Andreas were released after 9/11 and they both had planes.

Yes, but they weren't exact replicas of actual cities. They were completely fictional. Big difference.

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I wouldn't say they were *completely* fictional. San Andreas had landmarks pretty close to LA, SF, and Vegas. Not sure about Vice City, though.
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#20 saadniazi
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[QUOTE="The_Rick_14"][QUOTE="XL83"]

Vice City and San Andreas were released after 9/11 and they both had planes.

Yes, but they weren't exact replicas of actual cities. They were completely fictional. Big difference.

mjarantilla

I wouldn't say they were *completely* fictional. San Andreas had landmarks pretty close to LA, SF, and Vegas. Not sure about Vice City, though.

 

i agree that its pretty retarded to remove it. the whole reinactment of 9/11 doesnt really make sense when there's WW1 and WW2 games coming out...i mean wouldnt those make all those war veterans and jewish ppl who suffered feel bad? come on man be a bit rational. its done now. just pray for their souls and move on. put the planes in the game. tho i must say the guy who said since NY doesnt really have intercity plane travel itd be pretty weird to have em...but seriously like that matters? lol. just treat it lightly guys

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#21 marklarmer
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How can there be no planes?! are there any choppers? probably not. seriously losing interest in gta4 now.
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#22 Telekill
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I think people need to seriously let go of the 911 issue. Yes... we'll always remember that it was a horrible terrorist tragedy that killed hundreds... but we shouldn't let that alter movies/games/other media. The first Spiderman movie was altered to take out the towers because of the 911 disaster. Many other forms of media followed and now GTA IV is joining the list... that is retarded. Frankly I dont care who it offends. Maybe if someone were to get offended over someone flying a digital plane into a digital bulding, maybe they shouldn't play that game. Heck... I could fly planes into buildings on San Andreas... not like there was building dammage. Sure... it's the first GTA for the new generation, but I highly doubt that they will have building dammage to that scale if at all. People need to grow up and not let world disasters affect entertainment media.
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#23 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="Telekill"]I think people need to seriously let go of the 911 issue. Yes... we'll always remember that it was a horrible terrorist tragedy that killed hundreds... but we shouldn't let that alter movies/games/other media. The first Spiderman movie was altered to take out the towers because of the 911 disaster. Many other forms of media followed and now GTA IV is joining the list... that is retarded. Frankly I dont care who it offends. Maybe if someone were to get offended over someone flying a digital plane into a digital bulding, maybe they shouldn't play that game. Heck... I could fly planes into buildings on San Andreas... not like there was building dammage. Sure... it's the first GTA for the new generation, but I highly doubt that they will have building dammage to that scale if at all. People need to grow up and not let world disasters affect entertainment media.

It's far too soon to "let go" of 9/11. People seriously need to remember that it was the biggest single loss of life in U.S. history due to a single attack, even bigger than Pearl Harbor, and a sobering reminder that no one is invulnerable. It was our "memento mori," so to speak.
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#24 dboy482
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isnt the game set in liberty city and NOT new york, so its just fiction, right? so why no airplanes? they were da bomb in san andreas.

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#25 bigdawg1124
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I think people need to seriously let go of the 911 issue. Yes... we'll always remember that it was a horrible terrorist tragedy that killed hundreds... but we shouldn't let that alter movies/games/other media. The first Spiderman movie was altered to take out the towers because of the 911 disaster. Many other forms of media followed and now GTA IV is joining the list... that is retarded. Frankly I dont care who it offends. Maybe if someone were to get offended over someone flying a digital plane into a digital bulding, maybe they shouldn't play that game. Heck... I could fly planes into buildings on San Andreas... not like there was building dammage. Sure... it's the first GTA for the new generation, but I highly doubt that they will have building dammage to that scale if at all. People need to grow up and not let world disasters affect entertainment media.Telekill

The reason they changed spiderman was to make the city like it was in the present time, and if we change the way we do things in games movies and the medis then the terrorists have won

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#26 Colon21
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Dam...No Planes??? Wtf?? I am not buying this game anymore... I'll stick with SA and Saint Row.   This game is going to suck major ass since there is only ny. They should had included  Vice City, Libety City,  SA  in one game.. But this is probably has to do with the xbox 360 limited space dvds... They had to make it with the lowest common denominator  which is the other console in mind.
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#27 dlinky
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Yeah I can't beleive that there's no planes. I would have loved to go on a mission where I was in an F-14, and I had to take out all of the other jets in the air. But even without having planes, it should still be a good game.
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#28 lazzy102
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i justwant to be able to go inside almost every building, and more diferent kind of vehicles, better graphycs, and more things to do......for example if you kill some one.... you have to actually burry him.. or hide his body or at least kill the witnesses other wise the police will find out that its been you.... go to jail and actually spend time there.... so you can try to escape and be a fugitive.... and stuff like that.... plus it would be cool if they make a good MP.......like maybe the whole city online with everyone playing and killing the other players... forming gangs and stuff like that^^
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#29 GnR-SLaSh
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PLease don't flame me, BUT ARE THERE GONNA BE NO PLANES IN GTA4?!?!?!

Where was this said!??!?!?!?

AHHHHHH - in SA one of my favorite things to do was fly around it was ACE!! Then skydiving + parachuting? I was anticipating more variety of planes, not no planes at all?!?! if this is official ive reallly been put off, i mean yeah driving aaround is cool, and boats are okay.. but was I the only one who got bored of the lack of variety in Vice City??

SA was such an amazing game for me because it had EVERYTHING you could think of [within reason].

I respect that this is an act of good and respect, but since when has rockstar shown respect?! Thats why we love them, because they arent afraid to put stuff in their games.. And do not get me wrong I feel a great deal of sympathy and respect for those innocent people who lost their lives in 9/11, but guys this is a video game??

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#30 GnR-SLaSh
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And also to add to my points made, yeah let some awful people fly a graphically enhanced plane into more graphics, if they are sick enough to get satisfction out of that, let them, its not hurting anyone, theyre only gonna get wasted - trip to hospital - their loss...

Who else is it hurting??

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.....OK, woah woah woah woah! No planes? Smaller map? THIS IS BLASPHEMY! THIS IS MADDNESS!!

 THIS IS GTA!!!

Now why the f*** would R* do such a thing?  This is next gen.  I want bigger, better, badder! why would they dumb down a game series that has been getting bigger and better? why?!?!

 My anticipation for this game just TANKED! I mean this is all news to me.... No, it can't be true. That would be plain STUPD!

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.....OK, woah woah woah woah! No planes? Smaller map? THIS IS BLASPHEMY! THIS IS MADDNESS!!

THIS IS GTA!!!

Now why the f*** would R* do such a thing? This is next gen. I want bigger, better, badder! why would they dumb down a game series that has been getting bigger and better? why?!?!

My anticipation for this game just TANKED! I mean this is all news to me.... No, it can't be true. That would be plain STUPD!

best-gam3r

 

blame the 360 and its DVD 

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#33 Sephiroth90_3
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I'm still annoyed that the end of Metal Gear solid 2 was butchered because of September the 11th. One minute you see aresnal going under a bridge and then the next second arsenal has crashed and then Raiden and solidus fall off for no apparent reason. If you cast your minds back to when GTA III was being previewed you'll remember that there were going to be aircraft and there was a mission where you fly an aircraft into a skyscraper.
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#34 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="best-gam3r"]

.....OK, woah woah woah woah! No planes? Smaller map? THIS IS BLASPHEMY! THIS IS MADDNESS!!

THIS IS GTA!!!

Now why the f*** would R* do such a thing? This is next gen. I want bigger, better, badder! why would they dumb down a game series that has been getting bigger and better? why?!?!

My anticipation for this game just TANKED! I mean this is all news to me.... No, it can't be true. That would be plain STUPD!

vip3r666

blame the 360 and its DVD

No, blame Rockstar for having a budget. :roll:
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#35 jamesb215
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Trust me they"re are idots out there like that and the first thing they would do is put in on the web
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#36 acidBURN1942
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if they were really shooting for accuracy with NYC, then it wouldn't make sense. No one buys a plane ticket to go from the Bronx to Manhattan, so why should airports exist to do such a thing.

Also the issue of 9/11.

They needed the plain in SA because of the one overseas mission. That's really the only reason.

I will say though, I always had a good time flying over restricted airspace and just sitting there until they blew me outa the sky. lol

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there should still be airports in the game. La Guardia and JFK are some of the most meroable airports ever and they should be represented in the game.
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#37 primo101
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They should not put planes in it becasue its based on NY city. It will entice possible future attacks from them. And besides it is not ideal to have planes in it since terrorsist will be having a good time playing the game and practicing where and how to crash the planes
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#38 lazzy102
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They should not put planes in it becasue its based on NY city. It will entice possible future attacks from them. And besides it is not ideal to have planes in it since terrorsist will be having a good time playing the game and practicing where and how to crash the planesprimo101

 

what???? you think terrorists play videogames in their "free" time?????? omg!!!!!! this is crazy.... and plus even if you practice crashing planes into buildings that doesnt make you a better "terrorist" or a better plane pilot.....dude its a game... if they put planes it doesnt mean that terrorist will have some kind of training....to prepare them for a real plane crash..hauahuahuahua immagine that.... terrorist before they want to crash a plane they need to play 30 hours of GTAIV or GTA SA so they are fully trained....hihihi...