Has 100% of the cell's power been used yet?

I havent been keeping up to date with wuts happening with the ps3. I heard that MGS4 uses 100% of the ps3 power and also heard that hideo set his expectations too high for the ps3 and the ps3 fell short. Does that mean the best looking and playing game wont be able to surpass MGS4?

I heard the Resistance used like 25 or 30% of its power....

No system has ever reached its full potential. If the PS2 was still the main platform and these new consoles werent around, then you would still see improving graphics on PS2. Its all just theoretical limits and there are so many different aspects that can be pushed there is no such thing as using 100% of a platform.

There is always some untapped power, new tools, methods, and skills to push a platform even further.

i think GOW 4 not 3 will max it out just like gow 2 did on ps2:)rogelio22

Like this for example. Many claim that games like GoW2, MGS3, RE4, and FFXII pushed the PS2 to its limits when realistically they each pushed the PS2 in there own directions and are considered the max simply because these are the last huge titles the PS2 saw. If Gow3, MGS4, FFXIII, and RE5 were all PS2 games they would still show improvements over the last ones.

I havent been keeping up to date with wuts happening with the ps3. I heard that MGS4 uses 100% of the ps3 power and also heard that hideo set his expectations too high for the ps3 and the ps3 fell short. Does that mean the best looking and playing game wont be able to surpass MGS4?

rs0101

Bluray discs do read slower than DVD's, that's why load times are relevant for MGS 4. There's no way a game could run continously without loading in Bluray because otherwise the game would            

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. I know MGS 4 along with RE 2 maxed out the double-layer BD of 50gb or so, but as far as power goes, even if it's theoretical, developers are still learning the system. True "power" won't be breached until games only look slightly better than than the year before..

when or if this happens before a new console is released the dev team creating the 100% CPU/GPU game would no doubt boast about it so in a way we'd know i think anyways :P

I heard the Resistance used like 25 or 30% of its power....

 

CityOfShips

heavy rain looks like it could use all of it...maybe. or who knows maybe God of war 3 will.valorxx1

Heavy Rain looks damn good, but I doubt it'll use all of the PS3. As well as GOW3. It would be interesting to see any game that uses a console's "full capacity."

Bluray discs do read slower than DVD's, that's why load times are relevant for MGS 4. There's no way a game could run continously without loading in Bluray because otherwise the game would            

run             

like                

this            

. I know MGS 4 along with RE 2 maxed out the double-layer BD of 50gb or so, but as far as power goes, even if it's theoretical, developers are still learning the system. True "power" won't be breached until games only look slightly better than than the year before..

jjtiebuckle

Games can be streamed for a flowing experience though. Uncharted is streamed.

I have a question? Where do you see how much percentage of the Cell´s power is used in each game ? :)

I have high expectations upon cell´s power on Final Fantasy XIII and Killzone 2 also.

I have a question? Where do you see how much percentage of the Cell´s power is used in each game ? :)

I have high expectations upon cell´s power on Final Fantasy XIII and Killzone 2 also.

N-REAL

Yeah, I see a bunch of phoney guesstimations.. Links and sources, or else it didn't happen!

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I heard the Resistance used like 25 or 30% of its power....

 

avataraang1

Thats even more amazing. 

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I have a question? Where do you see how much percentage of the Cell´s power is used in each game ? :)

I have high expectations upon cell´s power on Final Fantasy XIII and Killzone 2 also.

Elann2008

Yeah, I see a bunch of phoney guesstimations.. Links and sources, or else it didn't happen!

I've searched for the past 10 minutes and can't find anything about how much a game uses so the world may never know... 

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I have a question? Where do you see how much percentage of the Cell´s power is used in each game ? :)

I have high expectations upon cell´s power on Final Fantasy XIII and Killzone 2 also.

Elann2008

Yeah, I see a bunch of phoney guesstimations.. Links and sources, or else it didn't happen!

They're not made up, developpers have said it in articles many times, they were posted a while ago.

Console power is "determined" by the developer. A developer can say that there game uses ##% but it depends on how they use the CPU,GPU and RAM. Ps3 games will always keep on looking better. Naughty Dog said Uncharted uses 30% which means the way they made the game is 30% but Uncharted 2 can use 40% and look 5 times better.Nonstop-Madness

agree

well i say MGS4 hasnt used it all since killzone 2 has hella lot more and i can believe that killzone2 will use the 100% so dont get dissapointed yet :)xRac18x

 "Hella!" lol. Teh Cellz doesnt have this mystical power. Some developers are better at coding than others and thats a fact. I game on a PC and certain games that look extremely gorgeous sometimes use less resources than a game that looks like utter crap. For instance, Assasins Creed looks a lot better than Call of Juarez, yet Call of Juarez is a complete resource hog and runs at less FPS at max compared to Assassins Creed at max. Its all in how the game is coded.

The Cell still have not been figured out yet. The only Devs that seemed to be able to use the Cell efficiently is Naughty Dog and Guerrilla. The tech behind the Cell is pretty impressive and I can't wait to see where Devs will take this technology to.

Here is a LINK of the engine that Guerrilla created to make KZ2. On page 43 and on it explains how they are using the SPU's.

[QUOTE="xRac18x"]well i say MGS4 hasnt used it all since killzone 2 has hella lot more and i can believe that killzone2 will use the 100% so dont get dissapointed yet :)Singularity22

 "Hella!" lol. Teh Cellz doesnt have this mystical power. Some developers are better at coding than others and thats a fact. I game on a PC and certain games that look extremely gorgeous sometimes use less resources than a game that looks like utter crap. For instance, Assasins Creed looks a lot better than Call of Juarez, yet Call of Juarez is a complete resource hog and runs at less FPS at max compared to Assassins Creed at max. Its all in how the game is coded.

100% true

theres never a 100% cause there is no such thing as perfect

where did you here about the number of cores being used? 

i would have figuered they would keep that sorta stuff under wraps

where did you here about the number of cores being used?

i would have figuered they would keep that sorta stuff under wraps

machiavell8x8

It's really not that big of a secret. The number of Cores are not important but ow you use each Core is. One Dev can make an all around superior game with 2 Cores compared to the Dev that used 3. A Dev can say I was able to get this result with 3 Cores but if you do not know how that Dev coded them than your results will be different.

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I have a question? Where do you see how much percentage of the Cell´s power is used in each game ? :)

I have high expectations upon cell´s power on Final Fantasy XIII and Killzone 2 also.

G-Legend

Yeah, I see a bunch of phoney guesstimations.. Links and sources, or else it didn't happen!

They're not made up, developpers have said it in articles many times, they were posted a while ago.

True. Read awhile back that each level of Resistance 2 was about 5GB before they compresed it down. If they can utilize the "theoretical" power of the core efficiently, why not stick with 5-10GB per level and make a 2disc game? Would take longer, but with a dedicated team behind the project, there'd be no chopping down visual elements (Kojima Productions).

How do you estimate that?

If a game uses 100% of your processor, it might be because it pushes the limits of the PS3, or because it is poorly programmed. Games like GoW2 or FFXII would not be possible in the early PS2 years because they wouldn't be able to pull them off.

i feel as well that the games will indeed get better with time, mainly because the cell was so complecated to begin with nobody knew how to use it, and some still don't as we still have crappy multiplates.  same thing happens with othersystems as well but to a lesser extent, and also game engines

thing is tho they might not even be able to use 100% of the cells power due to the ram limitations, you can only feed the cell so much info at a time...