HD vs SD

My friend wants to buy a PS3, and he has SD-TV (fat TV, CRT).

I told him its not worth it without HD-TV, and he said there's no diffrence.

Now, i know there is ALOT of diffrence between SD and HD.

I need pictures that compare both versions of a game.. alot of games, for Xbox or PS3..

i can't find any.

Well of course there is a difference, but if he wants a ps3 he should get one. Hopefully his sdtv is fairly large, or else he won't be able to read any of the text!

I told him its not worth it without HD-TV, and he said there's no diffrence.Pancakespank

How can he say that if he doesn't have an HDTV?

Everyone should know this by now: PS3 + SDTV + RCA doesn't even come close to the quality of a PS3 + HDTV + HDMI.

i just wanna prove him that there is a diffrence with picture or videos.

and i cant find any..

I found this and this. Hope it helps

Damn. I was hoping to see that myself, but it won't let me.

Here - LOTR comparison: http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/index.html

If this doesn't make a difference to him, then let him play on Standard Definition like a peasant ;)

I found this and this. Hope it helps

destroyerHHH

Those people had to be using composite cables on the SD set. I have both SD and HD tvs and the SD looks much better than that over component.

50 herts CRT could run Killzone 2 and other PS3 games?

if not , why not?

If you play a game in 480i and 720p, and don't see a difference, you have to be blind. Anyways, here's a list of non HD and HD PS3 games:

Playstation 3

50 Cent = 1280x720 (blur filter)
Afro Samurai = 1280x720 (QAA)
Alone in the Dark = 1120x630 (no AA)
Army of Two = 1280x720 (no AA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (QAA)
Batman: Arkham Asylum = 1280x720 (no AA)
Battle Fantasia = 1280x720 (no AA, toggable blur filter)
Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
Beijing 2008 = 1024x768 (no AA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (no AA)
Bionic Commando = 1120x640 (no AA)
Bioshock = 680p (no AA, blur filter)
Bourne Conspiracy, The (demo) = 1280x720 (no AA)
Burnout: Paradise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) ~1088x624 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 4 = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Call of Duty: World at War = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (QAA), 1920x1080 (QAA)
Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Athena = 1024x720 (QAA)
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conan (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conflict: Denied Ops = 1280x720 (no AA) or 960x1080
Dark Sector = 1152x640 (no AA)
Darkness, The (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Dead Space = 1280x720 (no AA)
Def Jam Icon (screenshot) = 1152x648 (no AA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA, temporal)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1280x720 (no AA)
FaceBreaker = 1280x720 (QAA), 960x1080
Fallout 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Far Cry 2 = 1274x692 (QAA, centered on 720p window)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Full Auto 2 (demo) = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
Fracture = 1152x648 (no AA)
Ghostbusters = 960x540 (QAA, pre-patch), 1024x576 (2xAA, post-patch)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720
Godfather II = 1200x720 (blur filter)
Golden Axe: Beast Rider = 1280x720 (no AA, blur filter)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (no AA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1152x640 (no AA)
GT5 Prologue (demo) = 1080p mode is 1280x1080 (2xAA) in-game while the garage/pit/showrooms are 1920x1080 with no AA. 720p mode is 1280x720 (4xAA)
Guitar Hero 3 = 1040x585 (no AA)
Guitar Hero Aerosmith = 1040x585 (no AA)
Guitar Hero World Tour = 1040x585 (no AA)
Haze (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Heavenly Sword = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Incredible Hulk = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Jericho (demo) = 996x560 (2x AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (QAA)
Kung Fu Panda = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lair = 800x1080 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to produce 1600x1080 for further scaling
Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon, The = 1280x720 (no AA)
Legendary = 1280x720 (no AA)
LEGO: Batman = 1280x720 (no AA, slight blur filter)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lord of the Rings: Conquest = 640p (no AA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (temporal 2xAA)
Madden NFL '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames = 1280x720 (no AA)
Metal Gear Online = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriot = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
Midnight Club: Los Angeles = 960x720 (QAA)
Mirror's Edge = 1280x720 (no AA)
MK vs DC = 1024x576 (QAA)
MLB08: The Show = 1280x720 (2xAA) - The rendering window is adjustable down to 576p without upscaling to 720p i.e. the frame has black borders
MLB09: The Show = 1280x720 (2xAA) or 1920x1080 (no AA)
Motorstorm = 1280x720 (2xAA)
MX vs ATV (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
NBA07 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA08 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA Live '08 = 1280x720 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Need For Speed: Undercover = 1280x720 (QAA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (no AA, poor framerate)
NHL '09 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Ninja Gaiden: Sigma = 1280x720 (has weird scaling to support 1080p)
Overlord = 1280x720 (no AA)
Pirates des Caraibes (screenshot) = 768x1080 (no AA)
960x720 en mode 720p
Prince of Persia = 1280x720
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Prototype = 1120x640 (QAA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (no AA)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction = 1280x704 (2xAA, centered on 720p output)
Red Faction: Guerrilla = 1280x720 (no AA)
Resident Evil 5 = 1280x720 (dynamic 0-QAA)
Resistance: Fall of Man = 1280x720 (QAA)
Resistance 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA - GDC09 slides)
Ridge Racer 7 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Rise of the Argonauts = 1280x720 (no AA)
Ryu Ga Gotoku 3 = 1024x768 (no AA)
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel = 1280x720 when sub-HD output selected, 1920x1080 for any HD output (no AA)
Saint's Row 2 = 640p (QAA)
SCORE International Baja 1000 = 1280x720 (no AA)
SEGA: Rally Revo = 1280x720 (4xAA, alpha blend)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (QAA, 30fps)
Silent Hill: Homecoming = 1024x576 (no AA)
Skate = 1280x720 (no AA)
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (no AA)
Sonic Unleashed = 880x720 (blur filter)
Soul Calibur IV = 1280x720 (no AA), 1280x576 in 1080p mode
Spiderman: Web of Shadows = 1280x720 (no AA)
Street Fighter IV = 1280x720 (no AA), 630p in up-close character view?
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed = 1280x720 (no AA)
Stormrise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tomb Raider: Underworld = 1280x720 (QAA)
Tom Clancy's EndWar = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Tom Clancy's HAWX = 1280x720 (no AA, horizontal blur)
Tony Hawk's Project 8 = 1280x720
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Transformers (screenshot) = 960x1080 (no AA)
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty = 1280x720 (no AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Unreal Tournament III = 1280x720 (no AA)
Viking: Battle for Asgard = 960x720 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to a 1920x720 framebuffer, which is then downscaled to 1280x720
Virtua Fighter 5 (screenshot) = 1024x1024 (no AA)
1024x768 en mode 1080p
Virtua Tennis 3 (demo) = 1920x1080 (2x AA)
WWE 08 (screenshot) = ? 640x720 ? (2x AA) - les edges ont l'aparence du 1280x720 mais d'apres certain artefact il semble que ce soit le resultat de la fusion de 2 buffers MSAA 640x720
translation StefanS: "The edges give the impression of being 1280x720p, but because of a certain artifact it seems that it is the result of the fusion of 2 MSAA buffers of resolution 640x720"
WALL E = 1280x720 (no AA)
Wanted = 1120x640 (no AA)
Wheelman = 1280x720 (no AA)
World Series Of Poker 2008 = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine = 1280x720 (no AA)


PSN GAMES

1942: Joint Strike = 1280x720 (4xAA) or 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Blast Factor = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Bionic Commando: Rearmed = 1280x720 (no AA)
Calling All Cars (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
Commando 3 = 1280x720 (4xAA) or 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Echochrome = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Elefunk = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
Forbidden Siren = 1024x512 (4xAA)
Go Puzzle = 1920x1080
GTHD = 1440x1080 (no AA) - Vehicle selection is rendered at 1920x1080
High Velocity Bowling = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Locoroco Cocoreccho = 1920x1080 (2x AA)
Mainichi Issyo = 1440x1080 (4xAA)
Pixel Junk Monsters/Racers/Eden = 1920x1080
Rocketmen = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Rub'a'dub = 1600x1080 (no AA)
Snakeball = 1280x1080 (no AA)
Stardust HD = 1280x1080 (no AA)
Sudoku = 1920x1080
Super Rub-a-Dub = 1600x1080
Tekken 5 Dark Ressurection (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA), not always?
Warhawk = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Wipeout HD = dynamic-framerate-dependent 1080p framebuffer (1280x1080 to 1920x1080)
Wolf of the Battlefield: Commando 3 = 1920x1080 (2xAA)

its not a big difference, stop being jealous, all he needs is the component cables

Seriously, everyone who says there's no difference between SD and HD is just a fool, I personally own a full HD Tv since I have my PS3 and two of my friends who played on SD bought a HD once they saw the big difference from their crappy SD to my HD

Seriously, everyone who says there's no difference between SD and HD is just a fool, I personally own a full HD Tv since I have my PS3 and two of my friends who played on SD bought a HD once they saw the big difference from their crappy SD to my HD

ArchoNils2

My friend wants to buy a PS3, and he has SD-TV (fat TV, CRT).

I told him its not worth it without HD-TV, and he said there's no diffrence.

Now, i know there is ALOT of diffrence between SD and HD.

I need pictures that compare both versions of a game.. alot of games, for Xbox or PS3..

i can't find any.

Pancakespank

[QUOTE="ArchoNils2"]

Seriously, everyone who says there's no difference between SD and HD is just a fool, I personally own a full HD Tv since I have my PS3 and two of my friends who played on SD bought a HD once they saw the big difference from their crappy SD to my HD

Stoner-Pimp

here is a linkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU1y7W6ctz8

If u have hd tv and ps3 then I recomend u to show to him the games on ur hdtv so he can know the difference.

[QUOTE="ArchoNils2"]

Seriously, everyone who says there's no difference between SD and HD is just a fool, I personally own a full HD Tv since I have my PS3 and two of my friends who played on SD bought a HD once they saw the big difference from their crappy SD to my HD

Stoner-Pimp

Actually I was refering mainly on the friend of the TC, you just a bit as well as the guy on top of page 2. Your comment btw. is kinda strange, because wether the size nor the distance matters alone, but the combination of it. Of corse you have to sit close if it is a small TV, but seriously, if you buy a new TV you think about such things before. Sure the picture on the TV can be worse due to bigger response time or less contrast, but seriously, it's pretty rare to get a worse HD Tv than the (old) SD you already have.

its not a big difference, stop being jealous, all he needs is the component cables

kingmanbrosky

HD cables won't turn as SDTV into an HDTV.

If people dont notice a difference between SD 480i and HD 720p/1080i/p then they need their eyes checked.

The difference to me, is like when you go to the eye doctor and they do the eye test and keep asking you "okay, 1 or 2..., ok 1 or 2, ok 3 or 4"

I love my HDTV it's so perfect for me!

the difference is HUGE. i have played ps3 in SD for about 1 year, i have completed mgs4 on sd. you have to be very close to the tv because text is tiny (you will curse your tv because of that). recently, i bought a hdtv and i was amazed! the colors are so bright, the image is so sharp everthing is cooler in hdtv 8) but i think it depends on your tv. i used to play in a very old tv without even component cables input...so yeah that can make a difference too:?