Heavenly Sword same fate as Lair?

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#1 damedash122
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So lair was just released and the reviews were terrible gorgeous graphics but everything else sucked..and from a few people i have seen that bought it they werent that impressed either....is the same fate to follow heavenly sword being released in like a week?
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#2 longhorn7
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Lair is probably the most underrated game out right now. The controls are easy to get used to unless you are constanle having a seizure. but as for HS its already gotten a damn good review from egm.

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#3 simulation
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not really hevenly has good controls, as most people would tell you, it had a demo, and people didnt have a negative response to it
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#4 JustWiicredible
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Nah. Heavenly sword looks AAA to me. Only two weeks to go and we'll find out. :)
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#5 cmencia55
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No definitely no, HS has already gotten good reviews and the controls in the demo are responsive and accurate.
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#6 Vyse_Legends
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Yeah I have serious doubts as to that. Reasons:

1.Reviews of HS have been 9.0 or higher with a 7(IGN)from one site.

2.I loved the demo and am sure many more did.

3.HS isnt controlled with the sixaxis and since Lair was the first game to fully use it of course it wouldnt be perfect(or so I've heard).

Those are my thoughts on it.

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#7 JustWiicredible
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How short was the HS demo? Damn.
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#8 feel_freetwo
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Yeah I have serious doubts as to that. Reasons:

1.Reviews of HS have been 9.0 or higher with a 7(IGN)from one site.

2.I loved the demo and am sure many more did.

3.HS isnt controlled with the sixaxis and since Lair was the first game to fully use it of course it wouldnt be perfect(or so I've heard).

Those are my thoughts on it.

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warhawk used it quite well (or so i heard) if lair has bad sixaxis controls, this has nothing to do with it beign the first to use it, sixaxis type things have been out since the ps1 and they had no trouble. its just a case of bad design.
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#9 darthzew
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I don't think so. Lair was a totally crappy third party title, but Heavenly Sword isn't. I'm not saying it's Bioshock good, but it looks like a good enough title. Wish I had a PS3 to play it.
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#10 darthzew
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Scratch that, it's official-ish, Lair's "press average" at IGN is 8.0, which is AA (13 reviews). Which is good, but don't make assumptions until you've read Gamespot's review, but I don't expect it to differ too much.
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#11 Chaos_Bladez
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I don't think so. Lair was a totally crappy third party title, but Heavenly Sword isn't. I'm not saying it's Bioshock good, but it looks like a good enough title. Wish I had a PS3 to play it.darthzew
How do you know Lair was crappy if you dont have a PS3 to play it on? Thats what I thought.
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#12 luigismansion101
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I have never liked Dragon-based games so I would definitely not consider buying lair. I thought about buying HS, but it's going to be way too short to warrant a 60 dollar price tag. If i'm going to spend 60 bucks on a game I am going to get the worth out of it. I don't expect all games to be 15-20 hours long (unless it's an RPG, then it better take me 50 hours the first play through), but I do expect to get a good 10 hours out of a game. And HS doesn't seem like a game that would be one I'd want to play through a second time. I'll probably rent HS or wait for it to drop in price.
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#13 NuKkU
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nope heavenly sword willl be

AWSOME

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#14 darthzew
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[QUOTE="darthzew"]I don't think so. Lair was a totally crappy third party title, but Heavenly Sword isn't. I'm not saying it's Bioshock good, but it looks like a good enough title. Wish I had a PS3 to play it.Chaos_Bladez
How do you know Lair was crappy if you dont have a PS3 to play it on? Thats what I thought.

I believe the reviewers when they give something anything below a 5. Really, if you buy a game and you know that pretty much every professional reviewer agrees that a game isn't even fifty-percent as good as it should be, then you really aren't very intelligent.

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#15 haseeb_1989
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So lair was just released and the reviews were terrible gorgeous graphics but everything else sucked..and from a few people i have seen that bought it they werent that impressed either....is the same fate to follow heavenly sword being released in like a week?damedash122

Lair isnt that bad of a game. By the way egm the same people that rated lair bad gave hs a good raiting also i loved the hs demo.

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#16 LoG-Sacrament
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nope, im predicting AA.
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#17 Ultra-Alue
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Heavenly Sword will not suffer a 4 fate.
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#18 furtherfan
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no. HS has gameplay elements
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#19 Chaos_Bladez
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[QUOTE="Chaos_Bladez"][QUOTE="darthzew"]I don't think so. Lair was a totally crappy third party title, but Heavenly Sword isn't. I'm not saying it's Bioshock good, but it looks like a good enough title. Wish I had a PS3 to play it.darthzew

How do you know Lair was crappy if you dont have a PS3 to play it on? Thats what I thought.

I believe the reviewers when they give something anything below a 5. Really, if you buy a game and you know that pretty much every professional reviewer agrees that a game isn't even fifty-percent as good as it should be, then you really aren't very intelligent.

Ok, thats fine but you can't say its crap without even touching the game. I'm sure there's been something in your life where someone said something was dumb and you tried it and liked it. I've heard normal people like us actually like the game and have fun with it.
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#20 longhorn7
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxPKXfRRNAY a quick video on lairs controls
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#21 Solid_Link22
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I say that Heavenly sword get AA
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#22 De_Bears
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Have you played it (LAIR)? I have and think its a fine game. Not on MGS or FF level but good game anyways. HS is breaking new ground on character acting in video game. The only reason to bash is the length according to some hear say.
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#23 2headedhawaiian
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They've both been victimized by their own hype machine, creating unrealistic expectations which make the games seem worse than they actually are. Hopefully, discerning gamers will try the titles out for themselves before being swayed too much by critic scores.
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#24 davedouble16
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Heavenly Sword pwns Lair anyday, by a mile
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#25 D_Znuhtz
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Poor Lair.

I still have this urge to buy it and I'm constantly fighting it off.

HS looks like it could be good or bad. I think the main issue is that it's way too short. The gameplay/graphics/sound have been getting pretty high scores.

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#26 Blitz_Nemesis
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HS may not reach AAA but it would flop close to as hard as Lair did. People who played the demo had no negative comments about it, besides how short it was.
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#27 jyoung312
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Heavenly Sword has had solid reviews that are fairly consistent at around 8ish with the largest complaint being length and ign's review really disliked the sixaxis control, which helps explain lair review. Hell even MSfanboy haven 1up gave Heavenly Sword and 8. Lair has received a much more mixed response as a love it or hate it kind of game.
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#28 nyc05
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[QUOTE="darthzew"]

[QUOTE="Chaos_Bladez"][QUOTE="darthzew"]I don't think so. Lair was a totally crappy third party title, but Heavenly Sword isn't. I'm not saying it's Bioshock good, but it looks like a good enough title. Wish I had a PS3 to play it.Chaos_Bladez

How do you know Lair was crappy if you dont have a PS3 to play it on? Thats what I thought.

I believe the reviewers when they give something anything below a 5. Really, if you buy a game and you know that pretty much every professional reviewer agrees that a game isn't even fifty-percent as good as it should be, then you really aren't very intelligent.

Ok, thats fine but you can't say its crap without even touching the game. I'm sure there's been something in your life where someone said something was dumb and you tried it and liked it. I've heard normal people like us actually like the game and have fun with it.

Exactly man. If you haven't played the game for yourself then you should not be saying Lair is a crap game. Just because the reviewers didn't like it doesn't mean that the game is crap for a fact.

I do have Lair, and I've played it quite a bit and I'm happy to report that it's a pretty good game. One thing for people to keep in mind if they are having problems with the controls is that the movements required to maneuver the dragon don't need to be fast and over done movements. Just relax and find a good rhythm and you might just appreciate the controls. Granted not everyone will enjoy the motion sensing, but I've got a pretty darn good handle of them for Lair, and I find them to be very fun.

I really can't figure out how the game could get such horrendous reviews, but that is exactly why I don't listen to what so called professional reviewers have to say. The score a game gets means absolutely nothing to me, and is evident by my purchase of the game despite these reviews. Reviews are nothing more then someone else's opinion, and while I respect everyone's opinion that doesn't mean I agree with them.

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#29 linkin_guy109
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no i think that heavenly sword will be a solid 8 or 9, which is like twice as good as lair lol, but thats just my opinion only time will tell the fate of hs
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#30 PS2Hawk
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after watching the YouTube video I am going to buy the game. ALso alot of people on different boards are saying that the game is enjoyable and very playable.
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#31 lestat23l
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Heavenly sword got a 10 out of 10 in play magazine
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#32 thekey
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So lair was just released and the reviews were terrible gorgeous graphics but everything else sucked..and from a few people i have seen that bought it they werent that impressed either....is the same fate to follow heavenly sword being released in like a week?damedash122
With one slight difference....... Heavenly Sword is going to be fun to play. Lair just plain blows.
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#33 BenderUnit22
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Haven't played Lair, but Heavenly Sword is high quality. Fantastic presentation, entertaining story and dialogue, great combat system and good pacing. I don't think it deserves AAA, because it's too short, which is unfortunate, because the story could go a bit deeper and the framerate is a bit low. However, on Gamespot, it deserves a 8.0 (I give it a 8.6).

It also has the funniest line ever: (while requestig the password for the armory) "Maybe I'll hit your weak point for massive damage..?"

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#34 thekey
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They've both been victimized by their own hype machine, creating unrealistic expectations which make the games seem worse than they actually are. Hopefully, discerning gamers will try the titles out for themselves before being swayed too much by critic scores.2headedhawaiian
I disagree I think Heavenly sword is going to be fun to play. Even though IGN says it's only 6 hours long. But fromthe demo's prespective It looks like it will be a solid game. Something the Playstation needs. Because the trash they have out now doesn't sit well with me.(The great games the PS3 has is VF5, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Resistance. Thats about it. hopefully Heavenly sword will change that.)
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#35 thekey
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Haven't played Lair, but Heavenly Sword is high quality. Fantastic presentation, entertaining story and dialogue, great combat system and good pacing. I don't think it deserves AAA, because it's too short, which is unfortunate, because the story could go a bit deeper and the framerate is a bit low. However, on Gamespot, it deserves a 8.0 (I give it a 8.6).

It also has the funniest line ever: (while requestig the password for the armory) "Maybe I'll hit your weak point for massive damage..?"

BenderUnit22
Exactlly IGN gave it a 7 but hw can you take a game sute seriously that reviews movies and every form of Media? But anyways I'm getting this game anyway. I don't care what Gamespot says.
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#36 2headedhawaiian
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[QUOTE="2headedhawaiian"]They've both been victimized by their own hype machine, creating unrealistic expectations which make the games seem worse than they actually are. Hopefully, discerning gamers will try the titles out for themselves before being swayed too much by critic scores.thekey
I disagree I think Heavenly sword is going to be fun to play. Even though IGN says it's only 6 hours long. But fromthe demo's prespective It looks like it will be a solid game. Something the Playstation needs. Because the trash they have out now doesn't sit well with me.(The great games the PS3 has is VF5, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Resistance. Thats about it. hopefully Heavenly sword will change that.)

Those are the only great games? I think you just need to spend more money... we've got a pretty solid catalogue considering how longthe PS3 hasbeen out.

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#37 damedash122
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yea i expected alot from lair i just didnt get y all the reviewers came down so hard on it...i think heavenly sword will b good 2...but i asked because after lair surprised me...u never know...and with alll these 360 fanboys everywhere..LOL
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#38 Da_bomb101
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HS>>>Lair. Even though i dont think HS will meet its hype.
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#39 blazinpuertoroc
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EGM gave its great scores and theyve been pretty tough lately...i say AA here...but still a flop cause it was hyped AAA
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#40 -DirtySanchez-
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yup and probly rightfully so
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#41 istylee
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nah nah HS is off the chain ;]
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#42 sainraja
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Lair is probably the most underrated game out right now. The controls are easy to get used to unless you are constanle having a seizure. but as for HS its already gotten a damn good review from egm.

longhorn7

What I find disturbing is that the sites giving Lair really low scores now were the ones to say the controls are fine.

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#43 FF-resevil-halo
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I really think heavenly sword is gonna score anywhere between 7-9 but no lower its a hardgame to call for me but anywhere above 8 and im getting it :D I think although it was hyped AAA, its gonna be a great AA like alot of ps3 games before it lol
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#44 moshakirby
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I think it will get a 7.5 on gamespot
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Hellz no!
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#46 longhorn7
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[QUOTE="longhorn7"]

Lair is probably the most underrated game out right now. The controls are easy to get used to unless you are constanle having a seizure. but as for HS its already gotten a damn good review from egm.

sainraja

What I find disturbing is that the sites giving Lair really low scores now were the ones to say the controls are fine.

yeah thats something that bothers me a lot. a month ago their preview was responsive but took some time to get used to. now they sa that the game is unplayable. kinda odd
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#47 longhorn7
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As for Heavenly sword I expect an 8.5-9.0 from gs. doesnt really matter though because i have already preordered it
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#48 moshakirby
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Why do you preorder PS3 games?
Not enough people have a PS3 for places to run out of stock, all your doing is wasting money if it turns out to be a poo game.
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#49 slugge
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heavenly sword should be aweseome as its the same developers as Ninja Gaiden, wich was also an awesome game, my only fear about heavenly sword is that it might be like some "hack'n slash" games and get boring after awhile cause of too little variation in the game, but the game will go into my collection either way. Thou i gotta wait longer then u guys as im from europe :( plz give reviews when someone gets it! :D
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#50 moshakirby
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Heavenly Sword isn't by the same developers as Ninja Gaiden.

Heavenly Sword: Ninja Theory

Ninja Gaiden Sigma: Team Ninja