Help! I'm terrible at Rainbow6 Online and need some pointers

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#1 InFurnace
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I've been playing video games for over 25 years, and consider myself to be a tad bit above average, at worst. I do not have much online experience (NWN and NWN2 for several years) but I was shocked at how much of a loser I was once I started playing Rainbow6 online. I've had a few good moments (5 kills in one survival game) but mostly I $uck serious buttocks. I get killed on afrequent basis, and can't seem to hit players 10 feet away with a machine gun. My own teamates often ridicule me (well deserved though) Is it simply crappy equipment choice? tactics? sheer stupidity?

I'm seriously beginning to doubt my video game manliness here. Can one of you vets give me a few hints on what works???

Thanks in advance

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#2 BackFlip101
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i personally like to use an assault rifle (i think is the g3ka4 or somethin) it works well for me. equip some grenades or incendiaries they help. and just PRACTICE!!! lol
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#3 janzaruk
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I'm in the same boat, maybe we should play together and we can both suck until we learn.  Add me if you want, I plan on playing tonight.
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#4 goku234
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1.- Check if youre Internet is good

2.- What Guns do you choose?

3.- If youre in the middle of the fight ...youre gonna get killed...

4.- think before the other .

5.- dont fell like youre going to loose .

6.- ALWAYS STAY WITH YOURE TEAM

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cover. shoot in short bursts, never just hold the trigger.
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I was in the SAME boat as you,man! My advice to you.....KEEP PLAYING....It took me like 30 games before i could even kill one person!! haha. I've gotten better now and have even won some matches in like a 12 person room.

You'll get frustrated but keep tryin....Some tips: I like to use the SCAR or any Assault Rifle.....if you change it so it only shoots ONE bullet everytime you pull the trigger....That's what i use, because if you have it on rapid fire, a lot of times...its inaccurate......you'll get a more accurate shot one at a time. Aim for the head and keep moving!

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#7 Funglip
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Well, it's tough to stay w/ those guys at top. We have a job and only play games for 1 or 2 hours a day max. We are casual gamers compare to those full-time gamers who play 8 hrs per day. I was pretty gd at CAC when it 1st came out and I couldn't imagine how gd those guys have become now.
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I'm in the same boat, maybe we should play together and we can both suck until we learn. Add me if you want, I plan on playing tonight.
PSN ID Mofrojanzaruk

I also suck, count me in.

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Ok heres some good tips for you :

Check your gear, make sure you got good armor before you head into any games. Pick a good assualt rifle with good damage and one that can change rate of fire to 3 if possible. Learn the maps, which takes time and a lot of practice but its the only way to get better at this game. You need a headset too since your only as good as your team. Its not a run and gun shooter so move slow, and check all the corners for possible enemies. Hope that helps a bit, the rest is practice with aiming, and trying to move left and right when your shooting since you will be harder to hit.

Ps add me as a psn friend if you want to play some times.

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#10 Jockss2
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im ranked in the top 50 in survival mode in rainbow six
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#11 bruno420
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put on tons of armor, and try the mp9 sub-machine gun, very accurate
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#12 bigdhav
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im ranked in the top 50 in survival mode in rainbow sixJockss2

Well done!

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[QUOTE="Jockss2"]im ranked in the top 50 in survival mode in rainbow sixbigdhav

Well done!

why thank you, i play in calypso casino pretty much 95% of the time and i always create my own room so feel free to join at any time, except today because im downloading the HS demo...almost done

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[QUOTE="bigdhav"]

[QUOTE="Jockss2"]im ranked in the top 50 in survival mode in rainbow sixJockss2

Well done!

why thank you, i play in calypso casino pretty much 95% of the time and i always create my own room so feel free to join at any time, except today because im downloading the HS demo...almost done

Do you kick people without mics? I want to rank up, but people keep kicking me, takes forever to reload over and over.

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yo biggest pointer, when ur running dont just start firing. ull notice the reticle dissapears when u do. stop running right before u start firing. it took me awhile to get a hold of this, becuase even if u run up right behind them or get righ in there face u can dump a whole clip in them and not hurt them at all. it doesnt matter if u stop after u start firing stop B4. for starters i suggest crouching all the time. until u get used to this

also after u do start firing u can move slowly and the reticle will stay. just dont run full steam, try turning or circling in close quarters.

u can use this against other players as well since they likewise must stop if they are full out running.

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[QUOTE="Jockss2"][QUOTE="bigdhav"]

[QUOTE="Jockss2"]im ranked in the top 50 in survival mode in rainbow sixvegetattack15

Well done!

why thank you, i play in calypso casino pretty much 95% of the time and i always create my own room so feel free to join at any time, except today because im downloading the HS demo...almost done

Do you kick people without mics? I want to rank up, but people keep kicking me, takes forever to reload over and over.

no i dont kick people without mics...survival is everyone for themselves anyways so talking is almost pointless except when you're dead you can talk to people

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I'm just getting into the game, still a specialist almost at the next rank.
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#19 peppeaccardo
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Here there are few hits u might want to use:

1- Try as many weapons as u can, I prefer the commando 522. Is a realyl powerfull weapon even on a medium range.

2- Don't run just walk and try to watch ur six as much as u can, usually use the crouch stance, when u see an enemy, if he doesn't see u sneack on him don't run . .. u will lose accuracy.

3- Shot using quick bursts, learn how to control the recoil.

4- Learn the good spots in each and every map u play, a good gamer is a gamer that knows how to use the environment at his own advantage.

5- Learn to use the scope, this will make the difference, remember headshots are more deadly then shoting on ur enemy feets or arms.

6- Don't put too much armour on urself, that will slow u down.

7- learn how to use the granades. smoke and flashbang .. that will help alot (depends on the map one will be more usefull then another ... i usually prefer granades and flaming bomb.

8- If u play in a team based game make sure u split at least in teams of 2, so u can both watch ur friend's six o' clock.

9- Reload whenever u have the chance .... u don't want to be out of ammo at the wrong time.

Peace

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Aim for the head, use assault rifles specially one with a high damage stats, make sure you are well armored, keep you weapon in full auto and strafe when you attack an enemy at close range, get behind cover and shoot at longer ranges. Always reload after you are done shooting as you want to go into an engagment with a full magazine. Throw grenades when the enemy is behind cover. Also when firing at full auto in CQC push the right analog stick slightly down(or up depending on you control scheme) to minimalize recoil. When you or you team is getting creamed, do something unexpected instead of continuing to throw your self at the enemy. Try to flank them, and remember to aim at the back of their head before you fire and lob a few grenades for a good measure.
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Just need to practice more. :P I quite bad at it as well.
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...did anyone else read the name of this topic and say "...f**king n00b"?
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I've been playing video games for over 25 years, and consider myself to be a tad bit above average, at worst. I do not have much online experience (NWN and NWN2 for several years) but I was shocked at how much of a loser I was once I started playing Rainbow6 online. I've had a few good moments (5 kills in one survival game) but mostly I $uck serious buttocks. I get killed on afrequent basis, and can't seem to hit players 10 feet away with a machine gun. My own teamates often ridicule me (well deserved though) Is it simply crappy equipment choice? tactics? sheer stupidity?

I'm seriously beginning to doubt my video game manliness here. Can one of you vets give me a few hints on what works???

Thanks in advance

InFurnace

There's several thing to take into consideration when playing online with Rainbow Six: Vegas

Bullet Lag

Weapon Choice

And tactics

Bullet Lag is just gamer's word for high latency, in which you fire your weapon, but the bullet collides with something not shortly after, once I've experienced a 10 second bullet lag. To cooperate with this you have to have really good judgement, contemplating when your bullets will hit and where. If you have even low latency, I recommend you shoot about an 3 inches(realisticly) before the target's course of movement, because it always takes atleast half a second to collide, if you have a higher latency than the average, just work with it, but always remember to shoot before the target's course of movement, it works for me.

Weapon choice is essential, you cannot just choose one wepaon for the map, you must be flexible and always know what weapon to choose depending on how the enemy team set up, if they're long range campers, I recommend a snipe rifle, but if they're constantly getting close to you, take out a sub-machine gun(Extremely accurate, but suffers from weak firing power at long ranges), they have very fast fire rate and no matter what, it's a 1 hit kill when you hit the enemy in the head...shot gun would be a good choice, but it suffers from its limitied semi-automatic firing mode. If they a mixed set-up, some sniping, some getting close, choose an assault rifle with either an ACOG or 6x Scope, they very good fire power and range, you can easily use it to snipe, but you need to adapt to its accuracy.

Tactics are the most important tools to online gaming with Rainbow Six:Vegas, especially in a team. Always use cover when you have a chance, and use crouch when you think an enemy could detect your presence on the radar. You need to use your gadgets and grenades. Smoke grenades are useful if you're up against a sniper, thermal goggles suffer from short range operating efficieny.Flashbangs are useful for roomswith groups of enemies, you can really pick them off if you know how to use flashbangs properly( they only work when the enemy(somes you) is facing the direction of the explosion and depending on the distance blinds them(longest I've been blinded is 4 seconds). Frag/Incendiary grenades are self explanatory, just throw them near a group of enemies and kill them, but remember that Inendiaries have a short effect range and a shorter "fuse" than the frag grenades. Radar jammer works wonders if you like to go rambo and pick them off while running, operating time is about 10 seconds and what it does is it disables the enemies radar so that you can run and fire without them detecting you on the radar, you spawn with 10 of them. GPS device stinks, I woudn't recommend it unless you're in survival, but even then, they work poorly and get you killed sometimes. Motion sensors, just set them where you camp and they will alert you when someone passes through them, several other ways of using them. C4 is extremely effective with the cover system, just set them up anyways where you can take cover facing the C4 and watch enemies pass right through them while you detonate them. Breaching charges, also useless at times, but effective in servers without grenades or C4.

That's all I know, hope it helps, long read, I know.

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how do u check your rank??
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#26 _DeatH-MetaL_
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LOL i play run and guns instead of duck and cover tacticals. but when i came to this game i already started owning serious.

take cover and a helpful tip. you know the wepons menu ( when you hold the square button) or the other menu ( hold triangle) the middle clear thing is where your cross hair will appear so when covering place that above a guys head and fire away.

now for the weapons help. if you like a bit of sniping, run and gun and cover shooting use the assault rifle. i reccomend the FAMAS, G3 whatever, commando ( i love this gun it looks great and handles great) and the best one the AK-47 :)

if you like run and gun and cover. choose SMGS, go for the MP's,i highly reccomend the MP9 ( i started using it recently it works great!! now its my main weapon until i unlock the AK, 1 more bar!!)

and the other guns LOL.

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I've been playing video games for over 25 years, and consider myself to be a tad bit above average, at worst. I do not have much online experience (NWN and NWN2 for several years) but I was shocked at how much of a loser I was once I started playing Rainbow6 online. I've had a few good moments (5 kills in one survival game) but mostly I $uck serious buttocks. I get killed on afrequent basis, and can't seem to hit players 10 feet away with a machine gun. My own teamates often ridicule me (well deserved though) Is it simply crappy equipment choice? tactics? sheer stupidity?

I'm seriously beginning to doubt my video game manliness here. Can one of you vets give me a few hints on what works???

Thanks in advance

InFurnace

keep playing you'll get better

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#28 InFurnace
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...did anyone else read the name of this topic and say "...f**king n00b"?mountain_duwe

Hey, that's a pretty good observation! It's great how you noticed that I'm new to the game and wanted help from folks that were more knowledgable and experienced than I am. Maybe one day you will teach me your superior bong-loading skills, and I can teach you how to keep a good job, and pay a mortgage, and invest in the stock market. In the meantime, I'll continue to appreciate all the good advice I've gotten from this topic.

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[QUOTE="InFurnace"]

I've been playing video games for over 25 years, and consider myself to be a tad bit above average, at worst. I do not have much online experience (NWN and NWN2 for several years) but I was shocked at how much of a loser I was once I started playing Rainbow6 online. I've had a few good moments (5 kills in one survival game) but mostly I $uck serious buttocks. I get killed on afrequent basis, and can't seem to hit players 10 feet away with a machine gun. My own teamates often ridicule me (well deserved though) Is it simply crappy equipment choice? tactics? sheer stupidity?

I'm seriously beginning to doubt my video game manliness here. Can one of you vets give me a few hints on what works???

Thanks in advance

archpro

There's several thing to take into consideration when playing online with Rainbow Six: Vegas

Bullet Lag

Weapon Choice

And tactics

Bullet Lag is just gamer's word for high latency, in which you fire your weapon, but the bullet collides with something not shortly after, once I've experienced a 10 second bullet lag. To cooperate with this you have to have really good judgement, contemplating when your bullets will hit and where. If you have even low latency, I recommend you shoot about an 3 inches(realisticly) before the target's course of movement, because it always takes atleast half a second to collide, if you have a higher latency than the average, just work with it, but always remember to shoot before the target's course of movement, it works for me.

Weapon choice is essential, you cannot just choose one wepaon for the map, you must be flexible and always know what weapon to choose depending on how the enemy team set up, if they're long range campers, I recommend a snipe rifle, but if they're constantly getting close to you, take out a sub-machine gun(Extremely accurate, but suffers from weak firing power at long ranges), they have very fast fire rate and no matter what, it's a 1 hit kill when you hit the enemy in the head...shot gun would be a good choice, but it suffers from its limitied semi-automatic firing mode. If they a mixed set-up, some sniping, some getting close, choose an assault rifle with either an ACOG or 6x Scope, they very good fire power and range, you can easily use it to snipe, but you need to adapt to its accuracy.

Tactics are the most important tools to online gaming with Rainbow Six:Vegas, especially in a team. Always use cover when you have a chance, and use crouch when you think an enemy could detect your presence on the radar. You need to use your gadgets and grenades. Smoke grenades are useful if you're up against a sniper, thermal goggles suffer from short range operating efficieny.Flashbangs are useful for roomswith groups of enemies, you can really pick them off if you know how to use flashbangs properly( they only work when the enemy(somes you) is facing the direction of the explosion and depending on the distance blinds them(longest I've been blinded is 4 seconds). Frag/Incendiary grenades are self explanatory, just throw them near a group of enemies and kill them, but remember that Inendiaries have a short effect range and a shorter "fuse" than the frag grenades. Radar jammer works wonders if you like to go rambo and pick them off while running, operating time is about 10 seconds and what it does is it disables the enemies radar so that you can run and fire without them detecting you on the radar, you spawn with 10 of them. GPS device stinks, I woudn't recommend it unless you're in survival, but even then, they work poorly and get you killed sometimes. Motion sensors, just set them where you camp and they will alert you when someone passes through them, several other ways of using them. C4 is extremely effective with the cover system, just set them up anyways where you can take cover facing the C4 and watch enemies pass right through them while you detonate them. Breaching charges, also useless at times, but effective in servers without grenades or C4.

That's all I know, hope it helps, long read, I know.

listen to this guy. but some how i never have bullet lag when shooting aguy. ( well i might but its not as noticeable as shooting an object) and second if you wana get a headshot aim slightly on top of the head. it always guarantees a headshot for me. and following my last tips use the hold square or triangle thingy to find out where there head is and keep shooting one or two bullets so when he pops out. down he goes :P

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...did anyone else read the name of this topic and say "...f**king n00b"?mountain_duwe

...did anyone else read this^ guys post and say "f**king jerk"?

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#31 _DeatH-MetaL_
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man even more tips. when you wana do some sniping with an assault rifle or sub use the 6x scope,ACOG scope or rifle scope and always set the fire mode to single shot (hold square button) you will find its alot more accurate. also never stay still when shooting and get sued to firing where you want without the reticule. when moving never run in a straight line keep strafing left or right and do some wierd movements. i almost always kill guys who just stand there there bullets miss me and most of mine hit. this only SOMETIMES applies to people in cover but most the time they'll own you if in cover :P
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basically if you wanna be good in vegas, you just have to know all the maps, and you HAVE to think outside the box meaning: know what the enemy is going to do. if you kill em from one spot, dont stay there.. always have your reticle aimed high for the head (at least i do) when you see an enemy near you, dont run and gun. if you stay in ONE position and just offload, you'll kill him. if you move, you're dead because your accuracy just went to 2% and lastly , use the G3KA4
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#33 _DeatH-MetaL_
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basically if you wanna be good in vegas, you just have to know all the maps, and you HAVE to think outside the box meaning: know what the enemy is going to do. if you kill em from one spot, dont stay there.. always have your reticle aimed high for the head (at least i do) when you see an enemy near you, dont run and gun. if you stay in ONE position and just offload, you'll kill him. if you move, you're dead because your accuracy just went to 2% and lastly , use the G3KA4springz300

LOL sorry for saying this but for the last 2 bits i have to disagree let him use the gun he is comfortable with (not including the auto shotgun) and dont stay in place when in close range thats the worst thing to do. ive killed so many people cuz they do this. they stay in place and try to shoot me, i run around different direction and pray and spray, they will most likely hit cuz of close range and u will kill him. try it

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[QUOTE="mountain_duwe"]...did anyone else read the name of this topic and say "...f**king n00b"?archpro

...did anyone else read this^ guys post and say "f**king jerk"?

Hahaha relax people, it was just a little online gaming slang. Nothing hostile, no need to get testy. We're all noobs at one point.

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#36 archpro
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[QUOTE="archpro"]

[QUOTE="mountain_duwe"]...did anyone else read the name of this topic and say "...f**king n00b"?mountain_duwe

...did anyone else read this^ guys post and say "f**king jerk"?

Hahaha relax people, it was just a little online gaming slang. Nothing hostile, no need to get testy. We're all noobs at one point.

Why get so offensive, he's new to the game, so why must you emphasize the fact that he is new, it's not a bad thing.