Holy crap FF13 is easy

I'm only an hour into the game so it may get a little trickier later but I noticed there's a restart option when I pause a battle. It reminded me of Forza 3's rewind function. And then I took minute to think about all the recent games I bought and how pretty much all of them were laughably easy on all but the toughest modes, which usually required you to finish the game a few times. So why not just make it available from the start or at least up the difficulty to begin with? Are today's gamers just less skilled?

i heard it's really really linear until the end too

Are today's gamers just less skilled?istuffedsunny

[QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]Are today's gamers just less skilled?emitsu97

[QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]Are today's gamers just less skilled?emitsu97

aka "The Mainstream audience"

I'm only an hour into the game so it may get a little trickier later but I noticed there's a restart option when I pause a battle. It reminded me of Forza 3's rewind function. And then I took minute to think about all the recent games I bought and how pretty much all of them were laughably easy on all but the toughest modes, which usually required you to finish the game a few times. So why not just make it available from the start or at least up the difficulty to begin with? Are today's gamers just less skilled?

istuffedsunny

I don't think I've ever played a Square Enix RPG that was "challenging".2Chalupas

I actually heard the opposite. The people I've talked to have said the game is really difficult. Maybe you're just a demi-god?

I've read that the game is quite easy up until a certain point so that it can help indoctrinate the player with the new battle system. Apparently after a certain point they hope you've grasped the whole thing and present you with more of a challenge.

i heard it's really really linear until the end too

kingofcosmos231

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]I don't think I've ever played a Square Enix RPG that was "challenging".TheWiikestLink

Well I didn't get to play that one. Of course that's a bit more of a 'strategy' game than an RPG, right?

But I played the following in previous generations.

Final Fantasy on SNES

Secret of Mana on SNES

FF VII, VIII on the original PS1

FF X and FFXII on PS2

Dragon Quest VIII on PS2

Kingdom Hearts on PS2

All of these games I thought were exceptionally easy as far as the battles were concerned. Basically if you ran into an area where you had trouble, the solution was always to level up like crazy so you are always powerful enough for it to be easy. Games like those you might let your party die only a few times throughout the entire game, and I'm not even good at RPG's. Just always forced myself to level. I'm sure really good players never even needed to worry about that.

[QUOTE="TheWiikestLink"][QUOTE="2Chalupas"]I don't think I've ever played a Square Enix RPG that was "challenging".2Chalupas

Well I didn't get to play that one. Of course that's a bit more of a 'strategy' game than an RPG, right?

But I played the following in previous generations.

Final Fantasy on SNES

Secret of Mana on SNES

FF VII, VIII on the original PS1

FF X and FFXII on PS2

Dragon Quest VIII on PS2

Kingdom Hearts on PS2

All of these games I thought were exceptionally easy as far as the battles were concerned. Basically if you ran into an area where you had trouble, the solution was always to level up like crazy so you are always powerful enough for it to be easy. Games like those you might let your party die only a few times throughout the entire game, and I'm not even good at RPG's. Just always forced myself to level. I'm sure really good players never even needed to worry about that.

[QUOTE="emitsu97"]

Are today's gamers just less skilled?istuffedsunny

aka "The Mainstream audience"

[QUOTE="kingofcosmos231"]

i heard it's really really linear until the end too

solidwarrior2

wut :|

[QUOTE="Denji"]

[QUOTE="emitsu97"] Today's games are developed with less skilled gamers in mind.

TheEldestGod

aka "The Mainstream audience"

aka "Thundercats with no claws"

[QUOTE="TheEldestGod"][QUOTE="Denji"]

aka "The Mainstream audience"

darkhart7

aka "Thundercats with no claws"

aka "Gamers with no game"

[QUOTE="solidwarrior2"][QUOTE="kingofcosmos231"]

i heard it's really really linear until the end too

Rakuho

wut :|

I actually heard the opposite. The people I've talked to have said the game is really difficult. Maybe you're just a demi-god?

yokofox33

[QUOTE="emitsu97"]

[QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]Are today's gamers just less skilled?Denji

aka "The Mainstream audience"

true that. relying on perks and whatnot.

[QUOTE="darkhart7"]

[QUOTE="TheEldestGod"] aka "The Casual Market"xxgunslingerxx

aka "Thundercats with no claws"

aka "Gamers with no game"

aka Militaires Sans Frontieres... am i playing this right?

[QUOTE="xxgunslingerxx"]

[QUOTE="darkhart7"]

aka "Thundercats with no claws"

FstBrk342

aka "Gamers with no game"

aka Militaires Sans Frontieres... am i playing this right?

Well, you are only an hour into the game. I would bet that it does get harder, not by much. Also I have always found Final Fantasy games pretty linear so I can't imagine this one being too much different.

Ehh, yeah, all those are easy...except for DQVIII, I mean, it wasn't HOLY **** THIS IS KICKING MY ASS, but it could be at times, you know what I'm sayin'?

[QUOTE="emitsu97"]

[QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]Are today's gamers just less skilled?Denji

aka "The Mainstream audience"

I'm only an hour into the game so it may get a little trickier later but I noticed there's a restart option when I pause a battle. It reminded me of Forza 3's rewind function. And then I took minute to think about all the recent games I bought and how pretty much all of them were laughably easy on all but the toughest modes, which usually required you to finish the game a few times. So why not just make it available from the start or at least up the difficulty to begin with? Are today's gamers just less skilled?

istuffedsunny

[QUOTE="emitsu97"] Today's games are developed with less skilled gamers in mind.

aka "The Mainstream audience"

[QUOTE="emitsu97"]

Are today's gamers just less skilled?istuffedsunny

aka "The Mainstream audience"

[QUOTE="kingofcosmos231"]

i heard it's really really linear until the end too

solidwarrior2

they are THAT linear cuz u can go to different areas and stuff back when 7 8 and 9 had the world map and whatnot and u could do ur chocobo stuff or fly ur airship around to secret dungeons or fight secret GF battles in 8.. so.... idk where ur coming fro mthat they are linear but i can see how they are a lil linear.

but u cant expect every game to be like oblivion or fallout XD

1 hour into a 50 hour + game and you say its easy? come back in 25 hours and tell us how hard it is.

All of these games I thought were exceptionally easy as far as the battles were concerned. Basically if you ran into an area where you had trouble, the solution was always to level up like crazy so you are always powerful enough for it to be easy. Games like those you might let your party die only a few times throughout the entire game, and I'm not even good at RPG's. Just always forced myself to level. I'm sure really good players never even needed to worry about that.

2Chalupas

i heard it's really really linear until the end too

I'm only an hour into the game so it may get a little trickier later but I noticed there's a restart option when I pause a battle. It reminded me of Forza 3's rewind function. And then I took minute to think about all the recent games I bought and how pretty much all of them were laughably easy on all but the toughest modes, which usually required you to finish the game a few times. So why not just make it available from the start or at least up the difficulty to begin with? Are today's gamers just less skilled?

istuffedsunny

Well, course its easy, its the start of the game.

But yeah, Mainstream games like this get easier and easier, with the exception of demon's souls.

Im expecting FF13 would get harder and harder.

[QUOTE="Rakuho"]

[QUOTE="solidwarrior2"] all FF games are linear since FFVIIsolidwarrior2

wut :|

lol yeah right thats an absolute lie. FFX which is after VII had a ton of side quests and minigames to do.

[QUOTE="emitsu97"]

[QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]Are today's gamers just less skilled?GrandJury

Is there a harder difficulty setting available from the beginning? I always play on the hardest setting, except when it's already a pretty hard game like Ninja Gaiden, then I'll choose Normal. Not that I'm a glutton for punishment, I just like being challenged, and I like to boost my games' lenght a little bit too :P

[QUOTE="solidwarrior2"][QUOTE="Rakuho"]

wut :|

Gen007

lol yeah right thats an absolute lie. FFX which is after VII had a ton of side quests and minigames to do.

[QUOTE="emitsu97"] Today's games are developed with less skilled gamers in mind.

aka "The Mainstream audience"

[QUOTE="FstBrk342"]

[QUOTE="xxgunslingerxx"]

aka "Gamers with no game"

Thomasdeleo

aka Militaires Sans Frontieres... am i playing this right?

I'm only an hour into the game so it may get a little trickier later but I noticed there's a restart option when I pause a battle. It reminded me of Forza 3's rewind function. And then I took minute to think about all the recent games I bought and how pretty much all of them were laughably easy on all but the toughest modes, which usually required you to finish the game a few times. So why not just make it available from the start or at least up the difficulty to begin with? Are today's gamers just less skilled?

istuffedsunny

Is there a harder difficulty setting available from the beginning? I always play on the hardest setting, except when it's already a pretty hard game like Ninja Gaiden, then I'll choose Normal. Not that I'm a glutton for punishment, I just like being challenged, and I like to boost my games' lenght a little bit too :P

[QUOTE="Gen007"]

[QUOTE="solidwarrior2"] you read it rightviva_hate

lol yeah right thats an absolute lie. FFX which is after VII had a ton of side quests and minigames to do.

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]I don't think I've ever played a Square Enix RPG that was "challenging".TheWiikestLink

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]I don't think I've ever played a Square Enix RPG that was "challenging".TheWiikestLink