Honestly, I'm not buying PS4 if it turns out to be like this gen.

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#1 Shinobi120
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Obviously, I'm very pissed at Sony for the way that they handled things for this gen. Plus I'm starting to question if I should even buy their PS4 system at all (as well as many others who shelled out $500 or $600 on this platform & were expecting 3rd party exclusives to be kept there, that winded up to be multiplatform). Here I bought a PS3, thinking that it would take off just like the PS2. How gullible was I? Delays on games? 3rd party exclusives constantly be ported over to 360? Only focusing on 1st party games? What the flip? They're obviously forgetting that 1st & 2nd party games is not what put the PS1 & PS2 on the map. Seriously, I would've bought the 360 if it wasn't for their shoddy hardware (RROD, anyone?). Don't get me wrong, I'm still keeping the PS3, but the way that they handled things for this gen has pushed me over the edge.

Sony has a lot, & I mean a lotof making up to do for me to consider buying their next gen console. If it turns out to be the exact same way as this gen, they can kiss my hard earned cash goodbye.

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#2 CosmoKing7717
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*stares at your sig* guess you aren't getting any now =( no likey whiners...
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#4 Shinobi120
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Honestly, why do you think the PS1 & PS2 succeeded? Because of 3rd party exclusives. Everyone who has bought the system is mad about that, as am I.
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#6 BrettB7400
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Dont blame Sony for losing playstation exclusive games. Blame it on the developers! Sony has done enough with free online and having some kick ass games.
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#8 xialon
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Why are you even thinking about the PS4. The PS3 is good for the next 7 years.
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#13 Shinobi120
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Not only that, what kind of purpose will people have to buy the PS3 if there are so many multiplatform games that are on the 360 & you can only shell out $300 for it? Absolutely none, unless it's for 1st & 2nd party games, MGS 4, & Blu-Ray.
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#14 rogerjak
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Not only that, what kind of purpose will people have to buy the PS3 if there are so many multiplatform games that are on the 360 & you can only shell out $300 for it? Absolutely none, unless it's for 1st & 2nd party games, MGS 4, & Blu-Ray.garland51
Name me 360 exclusives.

Being on the PC also doesn't count as exclusive.

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Not only that, what kind of purpose will people have to buy the PS3 if there are so many multiplatform games that are on the 360 & you can only shell out $300 for it? Absolutely none, unless it's for 1st & 2nd party games, MGS 4, & Blu-Ray.garland51

If you care that much, why dont you try and get a job at Sony? :P

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#16 Floppy_Jim
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I think Sony are aware of their mistakes. We recently heard rumours about the PS4 which said Sony want to release it first, before the next Xbox. And apparently it will continue to use the Cell which will make it much cheaper and easier to develop for compared to the PS3. So if Sony launch the PS4 first, make it reasonably priced, easy to develop for they will have a much easier time next gen. They cold possibly return to the PS1/2 days of domination if they take that route.
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#17 ozmatic77
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this generation is different...but its far from over...sony pissed off a lot of gamers but thats probably because of the whole managment phase and other contributing factors...
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Because that is the kind of posts we need.
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#21 Videodogg
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It will be very interesting to see how long the PS3 really lasts as a viable game system. I would still be interested in getting a PS4 because i like new technology. But i do hope they ( Sony )realize how important it is to start programming games for it NOW so they can launch with a strong library of games that actually utilize the new systems capabilities and prove they are not talking out thir butts like they did with PS3.
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#22 codezer0
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Why are you even thinking about the PS4. The PS3 is good for the next 7 years.xialon
Sony said the same thing about PS1 when PS2 came out, and PS2 when PS3 came out. Sony has repeatedly claimed a "ten year lifespan" only for that lie to be exposed just one or two years after the next gen comes out. You couldn't even buy a PS1 in any retail store after the PS2 had been out a year. And Sony stopped making the feature-complete model of the PS2 about two years before the PS3 launched. Ten year lifespan, my ass.
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#24 criinok
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1. Blame it on the developers, not on Sony.

2. I don't see why games being multiplat is so bad... Other people get to enjoy the game, companies make more money, and it doesn't hamper us at all. In fact, us PS3 players get better graphics on the games... and that's a fact.

This generation for Sony is going great, I think... I think a lot of us are just judging it on stupid things like just HAVING to have EXCLUSIVES, and really.. we're judging the entire system way too early.

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#26 azntok
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and another thing. EVERYONE and i mean EVERYONE knows that in the end, for big corporate companies, it will ALWAYS be about the money. Always. and if you haven't realized that, im sorry but you need a reality check. Its been about the money always and thats why so many devs and companies are going multiplat. why not?! if you could generate earnings of 2 million on one game made for 1 specific console.. why not double or triple that earnings by working a little more going multiplat? im not saying the devs that arent going multiplat are stupid, the exclusives are made because they want to stay loyal and build up a reputation. and in the end its all about the money once again.
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I assume you are talking about Tekken 6. Everyone knew that was going to go multiplat when it did not come out this year for the PS3. That game has been in arcades since 07. There are no 3rd party exclusives anymore really. I can see your point with the 360 somewhat because they buy timed exclusivity. We just got quite a load of PSN titles, There are about 4 exclusive games coming out for PS3 this month alone and you have a healthy 09 lineup. If the most of the same games are on both sets why sell one for the other. I mean you aren't saving any money buy selling the PS3 now. Yes it does screw over early adopters like me sort of. You must remember that the 360 did cost $400 and with $50 a year, plus the failure rate at the time, you probably would have paid the same amount anyway/ Even now you are only paying about $50 more to have a PS3.

You still have Ratchet and Clank second PS3 game, an Uncharted 2 or Jak game, Heavy Rain, White Knight Chronicles, Twisted Metal, God of War, Infamous, Flower, Gran Turismo, Wardevil Enigma, Fat Princess and whatever else. There aren't a big number of exclusive on any set out there. PS1 had everything because cartridges were too expensive. PS2 had everything because of the stigma from the N64 and Microsoft was a newbie at the gaming industry. PS3 is struggling because Sony upped the ante a bit too much this generation and is ending up like the N64 only to a much smaller extent. Games that use blu ray are too expensive to make. At least PS3 owners still get most of the games and it isn't being left out other than PC games, Sony said from the beginning that they were going to spend more on first party which is actually a smarter move than paying 3rd party.

I am glad Sony is coming out with new IP's like Folklore, Resistance, Uncharated, Infamous, and some others rather than just touting the same games over and over. I mean all Microsoft has of their own is Forza, Mistwalker Studios responsible for some pretty average RPG's, and close relationships with studios that have gone out on their own.

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#29 xX_-X-_Xx
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did you get the ps1 and ps2 at launch? or did you just forget? it was the same exact thing slow start with an awesome end... guess what ps4 slow start and great end... stop picking on the system, if your gonna complain about the ps3 and how it did not pick up where the ps2 left off (in your opinion) .... then do not get the the next generation of systems at launch and keep the previous generation, until the next generation is about midway through its cycle, thats where things pick up (in my experience)...
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#30 Rock99999Fan
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Not only that, what kind of purpose will people have to buy the PS3 if there are so many multiplatform games that are on the 360 & you can only shell out $300 for it? Absolutely none, unless it's for 1st & 2nd party games, MGS 4, & Blu-Ray.garland51

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The ps3 has tons of great exclusive first party games. Futhermore, 360 gets ff13, gta4 etc. We get Bioshock, Oblivian etc. We give, they give.

I don't know what it is with some of these one-nextgen system owners who get so pissed every time they see multiplatform 3rd party games, who cares? I own only a ps3 and I don't. Are people that obsessed with making the "other system" buyers jealous?

Btw you should listen to rojerjack, he's making a lot of sense.

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#31 AJC3317
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people love to whine and moan don't they
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Look, the 3rd party games are still coming to PS3...being mad at Sony because 360 fans get to play them too is pretty childishTrue-Legend86

Sad truth... it's pretty tough but by the time the 4th gen comes out I'm sure all of our perspectives will change by the time they come out. Just keep on waiting... I'm pissed myself too but being pissed solves nothing and makes me even more frustrated... But look at all that will supposedly come to the PS3 lol... nah no worries I have faith...

Just Remember.... You Gotta Have Faith! *sings*

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#33 xmitchconnorx
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I think Sony is doing just fine. They have enough first party titles to carry the system. People need to stop crying.
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#36 codezer0
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[QUOTE="True-Legend86"]Look, the 3rd party games are still coming to PS3...being mad at Sony because 360 fans get to play them too is pretty childishXxAnubisxX

Sad truth... it's pretty tough but by the time the 4th gen comes out I'm sure all of our perspectives will change by the time they come out. Just keep on waiting... I'm pissed myself too but being pissed solves nothing and makes me even more frustrated... But look at all that will supposedly come to the PS3 lol... nah no worries I have faith...

Just Remember.... You Gotta Have Faith! *sings*

Technically, this generation (PS3/360/Wii) would be the eighth generation of video game consoles, including the home consoles pre-1983 crash.
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#37 Wuflungdung
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Honestly, why do you think the PS1 & PS2 succeeded? Because of 3rd party exclusives. Everyone who has bought the system is mad about that, as am I.garland51

you do realise how much easier it was to code for both those conoles than it is to make games for ps3 dont you?

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#38 Rock99999Fan
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[QUOTE="rogerjak"][QUOTE="garland51"][QUOTE="BrettB7400"][QUOTE="xialon"]

Why are you even thinking about the PS4. The PS3 is good for the next 7 years.Assassinslay

Because the TC is a fricking retard

No, I'm not. What makes you think that the PS3 would even last that long? Obviously their plan right now isn't working.

Why does everyone think that they know what would "save" PS3 better than Sony?
SONY ISN'T FREAKING ALIVE AFTER ALL THESE YEARS BECAUSE THEY WERE LUCKY!

If you're a Sony basher then why are you on these forums

Are you talking to roger or garland?

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#39 rolltide101x
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[QUOTE="xialon"]

    Why are you even thinking about the PS4. The PS3 is good for the next 7 years.codezer0

    Sony said the same thing about PS1 when PS2 came out, and PS2 when PS3 came out. Sony has repeatedly claimed a "ten year lifespan" only for that lie to be exposed just one or two years after the next gen comes out. You couldn't even buy a PS1 in any retail store after the PS2 had been out a year. And Sony stopped making the feature-complete model of the PS2 about two years before the PS3 launched. Ten year lifespan, my ass.

    dude the ps3 is still saleing it would be dumb to take it off the market

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    #40 rolltide101x
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    sorry i meant ps2
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    As long as I have my MGS, FF, Insomniac Games, Naughty Dog, and Team ICO, I think I'll be fine.
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    Users should avoid long post or posts not in paragraphs... observe =D
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    #43 codezer0
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    dude the ps3(sic) is still saleing(sic) it would be dumb to take it off the market

    rolltide101x
    I was talking about the "good ones" - a.k.a. the standard "fatty" ones. Their optical drives were total garbage, but they made up for it by the fact that they had full hardware BC for PS1 titles and the ability to support a PATA hard drive for use with games that supported it, the Linux kit and MMO's. The slim PStwo's use software BC much like the old 80GB ps3 bundles do for the ps2 games. Yes it works most of the time, but it's nowhere near perfect. And taking advantage of the hard drive capability is the sole reason my PS2 is still operational to date where all the ones before it practically fell to pieces (and with the one right before it, literally!). Now Sony takes out BC from the PS3, and there's no doubt they'd remove all BC if they thought it could save them another $0.000000001/unit to do it.
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    #44 jay_rock_
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    Everybody knows that the PS4 ain't going to come out until the next 7 or to 8 years,even sony said that they want to keep the PS3 out for ten years or so....
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    #45 Project187
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    Seriously name a Sony system that started of great from the start. Quit the cry'n.
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    #46 ck02623
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    Great thread.
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    #47 VSOP
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    No need to get mad at TC for voicing his opinion which is partially fact!! I am a Former Owner of the original 60gb ps3, stood in line which much anticipation. I also Own a 360 (on second one now). I can TRUELY tell you that the PS3 is not what it was hyped up to be YET! It has MASSIVE potential but I dont buy these "investments" for potential, hell I can buy stock for that! I bought the PS3 to GAME and have the BEST GAMING experience out of the three consoles. That unfortunately didnt happen simply because the games (partially developers fault) were lackluster on the PS3 and pollished on the 360 (graphics and features).

    Simply put people, you can stay in denial all you want, you can read my previous posts in which i personally tried to justify the greatness of the PS3. But deep down inside you have to admit the future looks dim for the PS3 given the history and current trend of the system. Not trolling but I am relieved that I returned it after a year to best buy and recieved full value of the unit.

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    #48 Sheps21
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    Somebody call the waaaambulance.
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    #49 Assassinslay
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    [QUOTE="Assassinslay"][QUOTE="rogerjak"][QUOTE="garland51"][QUOTE="BrettB7400"][QUOTE="xialon"]

    Why are you even thinking about the PS4. The PS3 is good for the next 7 years.Rock99999Fan

    Because the TC is a fricking retard

    No, I'm not. What makes you think that the PS3 would even last that long? Obviously their plan right now isn't working.

    Why does everyone think that they know what would "save" PS3 better than Sony?
    SONY ISN'T FREAKING ALIVE AFTER ALL THESE YEARS BECAUSE THEY WERE LUCKY!

    If you're a Sony basher then why are you on these forums

    Are you talking to roger or garland?

    rodger
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    #50 Project187
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    Somebody call the waaaambulance.Sheps21
    Exactly what I was thinking.