How come most PSP owners just pirate their games?

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#1 tekken220
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The handheld itself is selling well but games are barely selling at all. Also, I noticed that forum sites that allows PSP hacking and pirating PSP games are more active than this dying board. (NOTE: I'm not saying that I'm going to such forums,I just looked and see how active it is there) Why?

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#2 anbu-black-ops
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Free games = piracy That is the only reason.
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#3 DJ_Lae
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Because people are cheap and it's easy to move piracy into a grey area between fair use and theft, thereby justifying it to themselves. Plus, the PSP is ridiculously easy to crack into playing those kind of games. The DS gets it too with the various flash carts available, but game sales don't suffer as much because of the sheer number of DS handhelds out there. The PSP doesn't have that kind of userbase to compensate for the piracy. In some ways it's as ubiquitous as people downloading music and movies for free via torrent. The general public just does it, and doesn't see anything wrong with it.
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#4 QuistisTrepe_
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The piracy blame game is based on a lot of assumptions. Low sales could very well be due largely in part to a mediocre lineup. IMO, piracy is never a valid excuse for poor sales. Lets not forget that Sony shot themselves in the foot with the Go, which has to be one of the worst consumer electronic device on the market. Sony's insistence on going digital and doing so with poor execution (wireless-b for a device that relies on digitally distributed content, really?) has left them looking foolish and aimless. They really should have just came out with the PSP2 already.
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#5 JohnnyWPSP
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Propably because its free.

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#6 Pvt_r3d
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I buy all my psp games. I'd rather not go through all that nonsense and trouble.
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It's because it's free and some people I'm guessing just don't have the money I buy all my PSP games I must have well over 70 of them now considering I've had the PSP since 2005. Personally I like to buy my games I like to have a collection of the originals. If Sony wanted to stop piracy though they should have made you update it when you go online like the PS3 forces you to do so.

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It's because it's free and some people I'm guessing just don't have the money I buy all my PSP games I must have well over 70 of them now considering I've had the PSP since 2005. Personally I like to buy my games I like to have a collection of the originals. If Sony wanted to stop piracy though they should have made you update it when you go online like the PS3 forces you to do so.

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Sony did try to curb piracy. Newer game releases required installation of the newest firmware. Though that had next to no effect as the custom firmware developers would just release their own updates to compensate for this. You can come up with all the draconian DRM measures that you want, it won't stop anything, it's just a fun challenge for a hacker. Look at what happened with Ubi Soft's new DRM scheme, internet connection to play offline games. How did that work out? It was cracked in less than 24 hours by a group of hacker hobbyists merely for good sport. You can't stop piracy, you can only delay it.
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[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"][QUOTE="wwefanforlife"]

It's because it's free and some people I'm guessing just don't have the money I buy all my PSP games I must have well over 70 of them now considering I've had the PSP since 2005. Personally I like to buy my games I like to have a collection of the originals. If Sony wanted to stop piracy though they should have made you update it when you go online like the PS3 forces you to do so.

Sony did try to curb piracy. Newer game releases required installation of the newest firmware. Though that had next to no effect as the custom firmware developers would just release their own updates to compensate for this. You can come up with all the draconian DRM measures that you want, it won't stop anything, it's just a fun challenge for a hacker. Look at what happened with Ubi Soft's new DRM scheme, internet connection to play offline games. How did that work out? It was cracked in less than 24 hours by a group of hacker hobbyists merely for good sport. You can't stop piracy, you can only delay it.

yea, and when you have an easily hackable device as the psp, hackers find it great fun everytime sony releases new firmware that tries to block them from using their cfw online. All that does is gives the hackers more reason to make another firmware with the features they already include on top of what sony offers every update they release
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#10 jordonj
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I think this comic says is best: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/2/19/ But getting something for nothing is one of the great American Passtimes... I work in Telecomm and we have some customers who don't want to pay for ANYTHING. Like they think phone guys should work for Peanuts or for nothing (recently, there was a HUGE flame war there over someone who kept asking programming questions...We just kept explaining what he was asking for was Proprietary information, as he was asking installer-level information). Ruins it for the rest of us doesn't it?
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#11 Daavpuke
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2 main reasons, one obvious: IT'S CHEAP! The other is that the core audience of the PSP is marketed to casual, don't give a hoot, players. They're not into gaming per se, so they don't feel the need to support it. If you target the NFS, FIFA playing average joe, you're not going to get a lot of money off him, if you aren't also offering booze and drugs with it. Same thing has been true for other consoles over the generations. I see namely the Genesis that suffered from wanting to target the wrong audience.
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#12 BonsaiMet
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People would rather download their games for free off the net and play homebrew than actually pay and support the console. Which I don't really understand. I've never supported game piracy and console hacking and personally think that anyone who does is just a bit pathetic. If you can't even be bothered to buy games then you don't deserve the console.
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#13 Sins-of-Mosin
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The piracy blame game is based on a lot of assumptions. Low sales could very well be due largely in part to a mediocre lineup. IMO, piracy is never a valid excuse for poor sales. Lets not forget that Sony shot themselves in the foot with the Go, which has to be one of the worst consumer electronic device on the market. Sony's insistence on going digital and doing so with poor execution (wireless-b for a device that relies on digitally distributed content, really?) has left them looking foolish and aimless. They really should have just came out with the PSP2 already.QuistisTrepe_
Yup, that about sums it up it a nice package. Thou I would add that if the PSP actually had some decent games coming out every month, you might actually see some sales.
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I think one of the main reasons why people pirate with abandon is the fact that they have ever had something they created from their heads and hearts stolen from them. They have no experience of what that disrespect, such a violation, feels like personally. They see themselves taking from a faceless mega-corporation with (seemingly) endless resources, not taking the food off a hard-working sporadically paidprogrammer's table.

Stealing can be viewed as simple disrespect. Pirates don't value what goes into the jewel which they pocket. Some view it as Robin Hood, stealing from the rich to give to the poor, but we all know that's a grand distortion of the reality. You don't hurt Sony, you hurt the little guy who works for Sony, and that is just not right. I think if someone has made something fun, you should thank them for taking you out of your dull little life for much needed relief from time to time. If it weren't for game makers, I would probably still be an active dope addict (I now put all of my drug money into buying games, which is cool cuz they get me high and then the next morning, I still have a "stash" left!)

:oops:

Weird way to look at it, but in a sense, gaming has saved my life! So in my case, I feel an immense debt of gratitude so I actually enjoy paying for the games I play.

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Really, many people hack their firmware to open up their PSP's to tons of custom homebrew games and apps. I have a hacked psp, but I don't pirate games. I don't even play them at all. Homebrew games seem to be more interesting.

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#16 Fightingfan
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People would rather download their games for free off the net and play homebrew than actually pay and support the console. Which I don't really understand. I've never supported game piracy and console hacking and personally think that anyone who does is just a bit pathetic. If you can't even be bothered to buy games then you don't deserve the console.BonsaiMet
Define "hacking", because if I MOD a product I purchased I don't see why it concerns anyone what I do with it.
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#17 maxx1458
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They would rather have fun for a short time on somebody elses bill rather then support the system and have it flourish with a lot of good software for a long while.

You end up with a system like PSP which seems to have less and less games on the horizon.

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#19 psyko0815
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I buy all my games, but it is so ridiculously easy to play pirated games on PSP and Wii. That's why.

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1) Because it's easy to install Custom Firmware on PSP 2)It's Easy To Download PSP Games 3) Free > $$$ I'm not a Pirate btw
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#22 Pixelatorian
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They just download their games from free download websites...


MOST OF PSP USERS...

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The idea of free is more appealing.
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#24 tekken220
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Obviously people prefer to get games for free rather than paying for them, My psp 3000( Gen-C full) just gets used to play my own games that i have ripped personally to an .iso/.cso. So much more easier than carrying around umd's, and you still get to keep the hard copies just in case. Best of both worlds in my opinion. Not that i ever use it anymore anyway, replaced by a ps3 in my room 2 years ago.shaunn191
I do the same thing with mine, all my games are my own UMDs ripped and put on my MS.

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#25 GamerLauri
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lot of easier than using umd
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#27 Kakjens
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I'm up for originals and support the producers.

I never liked the ideea of piracy, friends said to me to mod my psp but naaa.

When they had bugs and lame issues on their psp's, I played the games with no problem.

But who likes moding...that's their choice... and it's cheaper too.

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#28 rwallacefan
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I don't, and I will never

PSP games are pretty cheap now, ranging from 9 bucks to 30, if you can't pull 9 bucks out of your wallet, then I suggest you get a job, or pretty soon there is never going to be any new video games or anything, thanks to your ignorance

I like the idea of having a Collection of games in my room and looking at the marvelous art-work and appreciating the effort these publishers and companies take the time to make a great product.

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:)dude if you live in a country for example Romania ,you pay like 30 euros for a game that appeared like 4 years ago,think .what do you do?- you buy a good game for 45 euros or you instal a decrypter on your psp and you wait half on our until you download your game(any game) off the internet .that's why a lot of people choose the second one because they have the game and they still have the 45 euros in their pocket too!!

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:)dude if you live in a country for example Romania ,you pay like 30 euros for a game that appeared like 4 years ago,think .what do you do?- you buy a good game for 45 euros or you instal a decrypter on your psp and you wait half on our until you download your game(any game) off the internet .that's why a lot of people choose the second one because they have the game and they still have the 45 euros in their pocket too!!

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So you're supporting piracy in Romania?
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:)dude if you live in a country for example Romania ,you pay like 30 euros for a game that appeared like 4 years ago,think .what do you do?- you buy a good game for 45 euros or you instal a decrypter on your psp and you wait half on our until you download your game(any game) off the internet .that's why a lot of people choose the second one because they have the game and they still have the 45 euros in their pocket too!!

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Or you could get a less expensive hobby rather than resorting to breaking the law.
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#32 BuryMe
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It's the simple matter that piracy will always exist, and the easier it is, the more people are going to do it.

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I'm only repeating others but the reason is because it's free. Also, UMD's are a hassle to carry around.
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pretty soon there is never going to be any new video games or anything, thanks to your ignorancerwallacefan
You mean Sony's ignorance correct? Has to be games to pirate and Sony sure ain't putting the games out.
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[QUOTE="GamerFilip"]

:)dude if you live in a country for example Romania ,you pay like 30 euros for a game that appeared like 4 years ago,think .what do you do?- you buy a good game for 45 euros or you instal a decrypter on your psp and you wait half on our until you download your game(any game) off the internet .that's why a lot of people choose the second one because they have the game and they still have the 45 euros in their pocket too!!

NerubianWeaver

So you're supporting piracy in Romania?

I only have original games ,I am saying that in a country like Romania the law is not applied and indirect they are supporting piracy

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#37 killeracer0210
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I think the psp games cost alot of money, so the customers instead of buying them and they pirate, So should sony make a new FW?

reason:To make the psp owners can't hack.

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#38 feryl06
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I agree. And it happens all the time, not saying it's right, but with anything, even with laws, people find ways to bypass them to their advantage. It will never disappear.
1) Because it's easy to install Custom Firmware on PSP 2)It's Easy To Download PSP Games 3) Free > $$$ I'm not a Pirate btwNerubianWeaver
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[QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"][QUOTE="GamerFilip"]

:)dude if you live in a country for example Romania ,you pay like 30 euros for a game that appeared like 4 years ago,think .what do you do?- you buy a good game for 45 euros or you instal a decrypter on your psp and you wait half on our until you download your game(any game) off the internet .that's why a lot of people choose the second one because they have the game and they still have the 45 euros in their pocket too!!

GamerFilip

So you're supporting piracy in Romania?

I only have original games ,I am saying that in a country like Romania the law is not applied and indirect they are supporting piracy

I live in Romania.

Games are not 45 euros or 30....

Where do you live lol?

You find games for 9 or 10 euros...A LOT of them are cheap.

Only the new ones are at a normal price, but after a month they go on discount.

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#40 Sins-of-Mosin
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[QUOTE="killeracer0210"]

I think the psp games cost alot of money, so the customers instead of buying them and they pirate, So should sony make a new FW?

reason:To make the psp owners can't hack.

Uh, Sony has made many many firmware updates for the PSP, it has done nothing to curb piracy. Shoot, even one update helped to unlock the device. If we had one decent game for every 10 firmware updates, we'd actually have some decent games to play.
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#41 Genesis_123
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I think it's because many of the best PSP games are hard to come by and (especially in the EU) aren't available on the PSN. It also doesn't cost anything, while some PSP games cost quite a bit. Dante's inferno on the store is about £32 which is a lot considering I can actually get the console version for about the same price whilst getting more out of it. It's irritating because the PSP still has potential to attain and it can't do that if the console busts because of piracy. And I love the PSP over the DS because I can play more action games like god of war :P

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#42 sonichunter99
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i buy my games cause isnt it illegal 1 and 2 i like resale for profit

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#43 BonsaiMet
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[QUOTE="killeracer0210"]

I think the psp games cost alot of money, so the customers instead of buying them and they pirate, So should sony make a new FW?

reason:To make the psp owners can't hack.

Sins-of-Mosin

Uh, Sony has made many many firmware updates for the PSP, it has done nothing to curb piracy. Shoot, even one update helped to unlock the device. If we had one decent game for every 10 firmware updates, we'd actually have some decent games to play.

I'm sorry but if you still think the PSP has no decent games then you're not looking hard enough or haven't bothered looking at all. Anyone who uses the same old excuse "oh the PSP has no good games" you are just wrong. Just because a game doesn't get a rating of 8 or higher doesn't mean it's complete rubbish.

Any game with a rating of 7 or more is good, and if you look here you'll see that there are over 200 games to choose from.