How did Raiden become a cyborg ninja?

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#1 Burninator3633
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Maybe i just missed something but i dont remember him being like that..
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#2 figo16v
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Wait til MGS4 and youll see ;)
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#3 bagmup
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Dunno but i think they wanted to include every character from the series, at least it looks like he kicks ass now anyway:?

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#4 gusnitro
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he was never a ninja up until mgs2 when snake gave him that sword and you have to fight your way throught that area where those high tech soliders are shooting at you. I guess he got inspired by it.
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#5 Tlahui
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I dont know, but I am sure a huge pile of something will fall on Raiden during MGS4, leaving him almost dead and they will make him a cyborg.
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#6 deactivated-6354e904ebeeb
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Haha here is my outragous prediction. Raiden has the same kind of suit or cybornetic upgrades as the Beauty and the Beast bosses except more advance which would explain being a cyborg. As far as being a Ninja it was an attempt to make the audience like him and it's working.
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#7 Rath3rDashing
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Spoilers are releated to mgs2

In the end of mgs2 it is revealed that he is being controlled by the patriots via nanomachenes. If you ask me it seems to be a reasonable conclusion that while trying to regain his freedom and remove the nanomachenes that control him from his body he has lost a few limbs. In the newer 2 trailers you can see his blood has been replaced with a white artificial substitue.

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#8 mugwuffin2
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He started Hanging around the wrong crowd getting into trouble. Then one night he was peer pressured into drinking at a frat party Otacon was throwing. He drove home only to crash into a mail box. He will never be the same.
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#9 Thomas-Crown
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Well, at the end of MGS2... Raiden wants to rescue Olga's child and in the MGS4 trailer, we see her, 'Sonny'. I guess the mission went bad and Raiden end it up seriously hurt and to stay alive, they had to turn him into a cyborg... Kinda like what happened to Gray Fox and Kojima likes the theory of 'History repests itself'... So that could be the reason. But who's knows for sure until we play the game. :P
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#10 tabben
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He started Hanging around the wrong crowd getting into trouble. Then one night he was peer pressured into drinking at a frat party Otacon was throwing. He drove home only to crash into a mail box. He will never be the same.mugwuffin2

This seems the most reasonable imo :P

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#11 d_ano
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well remember there was a cyborg ninja in mgs2??? his name was something dirty i cant remember it. anyway i think the ninja turned out to be olga or whoever that woman was. then at the end raiden got a ninja sword...so maybe he got some sword lessons and ended up learning the ways of the cyborg ninja
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#12 CommanderTy
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well remember there was a cyborg ninja in mgs2??? his name was something dirty i cant remember it. anyway i think the ninja turned out to be olga or whoever that woman was. then at the end raiden got a ninja sword...so maybe he got some sword lessons and ended up learning the ways of the cyborg ninjad_ano
Deep throat just like on the first member??? and yes he takes the sword and im guessing thats wherer he makes his dessicion to become a emo-like ninja who knows but he digs the sword in mgs2
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#13 Rath3rDashing
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well remember there was a cyborg ninja in mgs2??? his name was something dirty i cant remember it. anyway i think the ninja turned out to be olga or whoever that woman was. then at the end raiden got a ninja sword...so maybe he got some sword lessons and ended up learning the ways of the cyborg ninjad_ano

*************POSSIBLE SPOILERS*************

Its been confirmed long ago that all that is left of raiden is his head and his spine. The rest is cybernetic like grey fox. His new limbs will just be faster, more responsive and stronger than his old ones. And yea he got olgas sword, so i guess thats how he became the ninja

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#14 gwf123
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HE'Z LIEK TEH LEADER OF THE BEAUTY AND TEH BEAST UNIT OMFG LIKE THE BOSS IN MGS3 N UR ALL LIKE WTF WHYDS SHE DO DAT D00D AND HES A GIRLZ LOLZ WHATA N00B IMA PWNZ0R H1M

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#15 C-Himura
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We'll just have to wait an see, won't we? Though I am a firm believer he just went to E! and participated in one of those extreme make-overs, as he felt he was being to harassed by the fans who thought he wasn't man enough:P
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HE'Z LIEK TEH LEADER OF THE BEAUTY AND TEH BEAST UNIT OMFG LIKE THE BOSS IN MGS3 N UR ALL LIKE WTF WHYDS SHE DO DAT D00D AND HES A GIRLZ LOLZ WHATA N00B IMA PWNZ0R H1M

gwf123

....ok?

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#17 ukillwegrill
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[QUOTE="gwf123"]

HE'Z LIEK TEH LEADER OF THE BEAUTY AND TEH BEAST UNIT OMFG LIKE THE BOSS IN MGS3 N UR ALL LIKE WTF WHYDS SHE DO DAT D00D AND HES A GIRLZ LOLZ WHATA N00B IMA PWNZ0R H1M

Deadpool8

....ok?

Thats what i thought

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#18 zeforgotten
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[QUOTE="gwf123"]

HE'Z LIEK TEH LEADER OF THE BEAUTY AND TEH BEAST UNIT OMFG LIKE THE BOSS IN MGS3 N UR ALL LIKE WTF WHYDS SHE DO DAT D00D AND HES A GIRLZ LOLZ WHATA N00B IMA PWNZ0R H1M

Deadpool8

....ok?

Did you understand any of that, or are you just guessing like the rest of us? :P

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#19 C-Himura
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[QUOTE="Deadpool8"][QUOTE="gwf123"]

HE'Z LIEK TEH LEADER OF THE BEAUTY AND TEH BEAST UNIT OMFG LIKE THE BOSS IN MGS3 N UR ALL LIKE WTF WHYDS SHE DO DAT D00D AND HES A GIRLZ LOLZ WHATA N00B IMA PWNZ0R H1M

zeforgotten

....ok?

Did you understand any of that, or are you just guessing like the rest of us? :P

I don't even pay attention to posts like this anymore.

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#20 king23_
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I don't really know.
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#21 Swift_Boss_A
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All answers ly with MGS4, so we won't trully know how or why he became a cyborg untill we play MGS4. Infact all questions of life will also be explained in MGS4 :P
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#22 Roku966
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well i believe the word on the street is he went through some sort of "traumatic experience", which they have'nt gone into detail about yet and thats why he messed up his body so much. Personally I think something happened to Rose and it made him feel vulnarable but Im not sure.
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#23 NuKkU
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[QUOTE="zeforgotten"][QUOTE="Deadpool8"][QUOTE="gwf123"]

HE'Z LIEK TEH LEADER OF THE BEAUTY AND TEH BEAST UNIT OMFG LIKE THE BOSS IN MGS3 N UR ALL LIKE WTF WHYDS SHE DO DAT D00D AND HES A GIRLZ LOLZ WHATA N00B IMA PWNZ0R H1M

C-Himura

....ok?

Did you understand any of that, or are you just guessing like the rest of us? :P

I don't even pay attention to posts like this anymore.

Lets keep on quoting this :)

But back on topic we will find that out in MGS4

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I've done a lot of thinking on this myself and came to the conclusion that Raiden has always been a cyborg, for at least the time we knew him. I know it sounds crazy right now but before you go on to the next post please read this.

I just went back and played MGS2 a couple of days ago. I didn't catch it immediately but Vamp lets you know that Raiden is different than a normal human. This happens in the cutscene of the first boss fight with Vamp. After Vamp dodges a couple of shots from Raiden and gets nicked on the face, he notices that he's not normal. quote,

"I thought so. Human muscels are quite eloquent. They speak out clearly what a person's next move will be. They even tell me which way a gun is going to be pointed before the trigger is pulled. But you're muscles, they're different. This should be fun." Vamp MGS2.

Okay, Vamp knows for a fact that he can read human muscles with no problem. He's been using this ability to dodge and kill people left and right. Raiden sure looks human, he acts human, but for some reason Vamp can't read his muscle movements like he can a normal human's. Why?, well Raiden doesn't have human muscles, he has cyborg muscles.

Here's the clip of the cutscene, copy paste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAHjpdGNZpA&feature=related

Now here is where I believe Raiden became a cyborg. I caught this after Olga knocked Raiden out and he wakes up in front of Ocelot and Solidus on the torture table. Solidus, the antagonist of MGS2, raised Raiden in Africa. Solidus talks about their past together and tells Raiden he was the best child soldier in his battalion. After the war was over Solidus told Raiden that he went searching for him in refugee camps but couldn't find him. Solidus later said, "I should have know that they would recruit you". When Solidus said "they" I'm pretty sure he was talking about the patriots. Because Raiden was so close to Solidus, the patriots kidnapped him and got as much infromation as they could. I imagine things like Solidu's activites and bases of operations. Since Raiden was such an excellent solider the patriots may have wanted to expand on his abilities. They may have done experiments which eventually lead to Raiden becoming a full cyborg save his head and spinal cord.

I imagine Kojima is going to shed more light on Raiden's story in later installements. I for one hope so, because you can't have something that big and not explain.

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#25 superdante00
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I've done a lot of thinking on this myself and came to the conclusion that Raiden has always been a cyborg, for at least the time we knew him. I know it sounds crazy right now but before you go on to the next post please read this.

I just went back and played MGS2 a couple of days ago. I didn't catch it immediately but Vamp lets you know that Raiden is different than a normal human. This happens in the cutscene of the first boss fight with Vamp. After Vamp dodges a couple of shots from Raiden and gets nicked on the face, he notices that he's not normal. quote,

"I thought so. Human muscels are quite eloquent. They speak out clearly what a person's next move will be. They even tell me which way a gun is going to be pointed before the trigger is pulled. But you're muscles, they're different. This should be fun." Vamp MGS2.

Okay, Vamp knows for a fact that he can read human muscles with no problem. He's been using this ability to dodge and kill people left and right. Raiden sure looks human, he acts human, but for some reason Vamp can't read his muscle movements like he can a normal human's. Why?, well Raiden doesn't have human muscles, he has cyborg muscles.

Here's the clip of the cutscene, copy paste. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAHjpdGNZpA&feature=related

Now here is where I believe Raiden became a cyborg. I caught this after Olga knocked Raiden out and he wakes up in front of Ocelot and Solidus on the torture table. Solidus, the antagonist of MGS2, raised Raiden in Africa. Solidus talks about their past together and tells Raiden he was the best child soldier in his battalion. After the war was over Solidus told Raiden that he went searching for him in refugee camps but couldn't find him. Solidus later said, "I should have know that they would recruit you". When Solidus said "they" I'm pretty sure he was talking about the patriots. Because Raiden was so close to Solidus, the patriots kidnapped him and got as much infromation as they could. I imagine things like Solidu's activites and bases of operations. Since Raiden was such an excellent solider the patriots may have wanted to expand on his abilities. They may have done experiments which eventually lead to Raiden becoming a full cyborg save his head and spinal cord.

I imagine Kojima is going to shed more light on Raiden's story in later installements. I for one hope so, because you can't have something that big and not explain.

Evo700

No, thats not it. I don't remember exactly what happened but it is explained in the MGS Database

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#26 crumbs21
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SPOILER!!!!

having downloaded the mgs4 database and read the facts about raiden, it states there that raiden was sent on a mission to retrieve big boss's body or if not to rescue sunny and was caught by the patriots, as a result raiden was experimented on by the Patriots with nanomachines and was made a cyborg just like gray fox, the cyborg ninja, he was coincidentally rescued by the Paradise Lost Army led by big mama and have worked on maybe retrieving bigboss's body or sunny, leading to the meeting of raiden and old snake in mgs4,well as far as i remembered though

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#27 phoonbaba098
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He slipped on bird crap and suffered head injuries. After that, he thought he was Frank Jaeger. They made his blood white to remind him of that fatal day.
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#28 knowledge83
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your post title is a spoiler thats not cool a hole
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#29 MusashiSensi
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How is it a spoiler? Have youu been frozen ice? This is common knowledg.
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#30 iloverock4ever
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yeh hes sent by the patriots to retrieve big boss's body in exchange for sunny's location then something happens and some person named dr. madnar does experiments on him in area 51 and saves his life by turning him into a cyborg **super spoilers** in raidens ending he is put back together with parts im assuming aren't his because of the barcodes and he has scars separating segments of his body ex.hands ,arms ,shoulder ,chest and so on
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#32 Scianix-Black
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yeh hes sent by the patriots to retrieve big boss's body in exchange for sunny's location then something happens and some person named dr. madnar does experiments on him in area 51 and saves his life by turning him into a cyborg **super spoilers** in raidens ending he is put back together with parts im assuming aren't his because of the barcodes and he has scars separating segments of his body ex.hands ,arms ,shoulder ,chest and so oniloverock4ever

Why is this thread all the way up here?

Anyway, all of Raiden's body is cyborg.

The only things that remain from his original body are his spine and his mind.

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#33 Denji
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Wow, a thread from Jan lol
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#34 JoKeR_421
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Wow, a thread from Jan lolDenji

i know right? lol

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#35 null_is_zero
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The deal to release Sunny from The Patriots was to take Raiden's body in return. That's what he did. They exchanged Sunny and handed her to Snake and Otacon(way of deliverance not explained) and in return got Raiden. I believe the mission was at the Area 51, where the exchange occured. They had to do some experiments on him thus leading to Cyborg form.