how early to line up without a pre-order? ?

I didn't pre order a ps4, but my local best buy said they will have extras on a first come first serve basis. Do you guys think that lining up at 3 pm for a midnight launch would be early enough to get a console?

No one's going to know your area better than you.

Iknow some people that havent even got the pre orders and they are camping out 1 day before the launch so they are the first ones to get the system without pre orders.Luckily i Have mine because i would never camp a whole day.

I don't know where you live but you may want to try a store most gamers might not think of such as Sears or Kmart. Best of luck to you and be safe watch your surroundings!