I admit it. I am powerless over my video game addiction...

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#1 SnoSlider-PS3-
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There needs to be some kind of self help group or 12 step program for video gamers. I am so fricken tired from staying awake night after night till two am knowing I have to be up for work at six! "I can't go to bed now, Desert Glory is the next map!", or "As soon as I beat this boss I'm saving it and going to sleep!" Man I have problems! My neck hurts from nodding out so many times at my computer in my office!

Any one else? Thanks for sharing!

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Umm.. cool.
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#4 sparx213
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go see a therapist XD
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#6 BostonDieNasty
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desert glory??

There needs to be some kind of self help group or 12 step program for video gamers. I am so fricken tired from staying awake night after night till two am knowing I have to be up for work at six! "I can't go to bed now, Desert Glory is the next map!", or "As soon as I beat this boss I'm saving it and going to sleep!" Man I have problems! My neck hurts from nodding out so many times at my computer in my office!

Any one else? Thanks for sharing!

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#7 SnoSlider-PS3-
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desert glory??[QUOTE="SnoSlider-PS3-"]

There needs to be some kind of self help group or 12 step program for video gamers. I am so fricken tired from staying awake night after night till two am knowing I have to be up for work at six! "I can't go to bed now, Desert Glory is the next map!", or "As soon as I beat this boss I'm saving it and going to sleep!" Man I have problems! My neck hurts from nodding out so many times at my computer in my office!

Any one else? Thanks for sharing!

BostonDieNasty

Desert Glory is an awesome map on Socom: Confrontation, and from Socom II.

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#8 supa_badman
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uhmm... alright.

you probably SHOULD see some kind of therapist or maybe find a new hobby.

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There needs to be some kind of self help group or 12 step program for video gamers. I am so fricken tired from staying awake night after night till two am knowing I have to be up for work at six! "I can't go to bed now, Desert Glory is the next map!", or "As soon as I beat this boss I'm saving it and going to sleep!" Man I have problems! My neck hurts from nodding out so many times at my computer in my office!

Any one else? Thanks for sharing!

SnoSlider-PS3-

awesome:roll:

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#10 soren008
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I suspect some people here adopt the higher tone of smuggery - whilst unknowingly are addicted to video games

at least your self aware - 1st step

I suggest selling the game - do you enjoy it? - or is it pure habit?

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#11 yayio
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yes i have an addiction :( so much that my mom has banned video games on sundays. It's horrible.

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#12 George__1992
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go see a therapist...
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#13 NinjaMunkey01
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Well I personally dont play too late. Otherwise it keeps me up.

Though somethimes I play a little too much. I just started college though so im having to get used to not playing so much :P

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#14 The_Tombo
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Meh just play the games, I remember when I used to stay up tioll 5 am or later every weekend and vacation just playing games not even using the interwebs :shock: ZOMG

But lately it's been going downhill with the lack of good games, but a couple of them have kept me gaming. And I've gotten my second wind not too long ago especially with fallout. aaaah Been playing it every day for at least two hours and a couple of days over 6 hours since release date. Feels so good. Who needs a Social life right?

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#15 TJSAGE
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Only way to cure 1 addiction is with another, I would suggest .....

Get obsessed over a girl

Mary Jane

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#16 hazelnutman
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When people say I have a video game addiction/problem, I tell them that I'm at least not doing drugs or alcohol.

Shuts them up every time.

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#17 B-L-I-N-G-A-H
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Meh just play the games, I remember when I used to stay up tioll 5 am or later every weekend and vacation just playing games not even using the interwebs :shock: ZOMG

But lately it's been going downhill with the lack of good games, but a couple of them have kept me gaming. And I've gotten my second wind not too long ago especially with fallout. aaaah Been playing it every day for at least two hours and a couple of days over 6 hours since release date. Feels so good. Who needs a Social life right?

The_Tombo
yer waste your life in your room or wereva you game all night, the video games is basically your social life, just like my mate, ill ask him to come out for a pint or even to bowling and he says no im busy, and i say doing wat and he says gears of war or cod or summit
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#18 Zidaneski
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When people say I have a video game addiction/problem, I tell them that I'm at least not doing drugs or alcohol.

Shuts them up every time.

hazelnutman

Hahah, thats a good response. I find that playing videogames to me is the same as reading a good book. When I read a good book I can't put it down and I try to squeeze in as much time for that book as I can. What urkes me is that of course people think that playing games is waaaay worse than reading a book. Nobody cares if you read too much or practice drums a lot, but somehow if its through the screen it makes it unhealthy and a time waster.

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#19 Dogswithguns
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be happy you love video games. not your job.... and learn how to go to bed at certain time. you'll getta hang of your schedule after a while.Peace
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#20 N-REAL
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When people say I have a video game addiction/problem, I tell them that I'm at least not doing drugs or alcohol.

Shuts them up every time.

hazelnutman

The best response so far in this thread! :)

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#21 jonny2202
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Only way to cure 1 addiction is with another, I would suggest .....

Get obsessed over a girl

Mary Jane

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TJSAGE

This guy's got the answer, go get l**d.

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#22 supa_badman
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When people say I have a video game addiction/problem, I tell them that I'm at least not doing drugs or alcohol.

Shuts them up every time.

hazelnutman

LOL

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#23 CONMAN999PS
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lol this thread is hiarious. Go see a doctor :P
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#24 GTA_MGS_1
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Not really.

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#25 Trigun1
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IMO video game addiction does not exist. Addiction is when you put a chemical into your body and then become dependent on those chemicals to feel "normal". I am behavioral Psychologist at PSU and feel the term addiction is taken out of context too often and is being deluded by the layman. However, you may be obsessive and compulsive about your video game play which could cause a problem. However, real addiction will prevent people from going to work or even selling things like their cars or stealing to feed their addiction. Anything else is just a lack of personal control and responsibility. Now of course that is just my opinion, have fun and don't let your life be based around games.
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ohh great trigun1 with his psychobable bull Sh!*:roll:
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#27 Trigun1
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ohh great trigun1 with his psychobable bull Sh!*:roll:POPEYE1716
Leave it to the feeble minded to attack without reason. Too bad a large educated community agrees with my point of view not that of a few small minded individuals. Back to the topic at hand, if you truly have problems with juggling your time between the rest of life and video games, maybe try a quota system for how much time you play or a reward system to play more when you accomplishment a goal even if its a small goal reward yourself. In the last thirty days I have played and finished Saints Row 2, Fable 2, Fallout 3, and Resistance 2 (Been playing the co-op a lot recently leveling my medic) and found time for my studies and work.
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[QUOTE="TJSAGE"]

Only way to cure 1 addiction is with another, I would suggest .....

Get obsessed over a girl

Mary Jane

Meds

jonny2202

This guy's got the answer, go get l**d.

errr,...that is somewhat taking a step backwards.

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#29 GranReyUno
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You might want to get some help. There are 3 main things that games do not come before and those are sleep, money and bumping uglies. :P
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#30 metalpower08
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[QUOTE="jonny2202"][QUOTE="TJSAGE"]

Only way to cure 1 addiction is with another, I would suggest .....

Get obsessed over a girl

Mary Jane

Meds

Zidaneski

This guy's got the answer, go get l**d.

errr,...that is somewhat taking a step backwards.

how so? that made no sense

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I love my video games,some have said im addicted but i have other hobbies too. I watch films,read comic books,go out,i keep snakes and i have the BIGGEST action figure collection most people have ever seen.

If gaming is your sole interest then you need some more. I love gaming both new and retro but theres more than that!

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#32 skingus
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DO NOT LET GAMING TAKE OVER YOUR LIFE, OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. It's cool you're admitting it. Don't listen to people that are making jokes. Anything can become an addiction.

You have got to find balance in your life, and you may need to give up this hobby. As long as you go to work on time, and have some life goals that you are actively persueing (god I sound like a mother) than you'll be fine. You also need a social life of some sort, and hopefully a girlfriend. Human contact is important in life, I don't care what anyone else says.

You could go pay to get this information from a shrink, but you'd be wasting your money. I'm a psych grad... trust me. Just say no....

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#33 kar008
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internet addiction is worse than ur addiction imo.
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#35 dazman31
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IMO video game addiction does not exist. Addiction is when you put a chemical into your body and then become dependent on those chemicals to feel "normal". I am behavioral Psychologist at PSU and feel the term addiction is taken out of context too often and is being deluded by the layman. However, you may be obsessive and compulsive about your video game play which could cause a problem. However, real addiction will prevent people from going to work or even selling things like their cars or stealing to feed their addiction. Anything else is just a lack of personal control and responsibility. Now of course that is just my opinion, have fun and don't let your life be based around games.Trigun1

ad⋅dic⋅tion

  /əˈdɪkʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [uh-dik-shuhn] Show IPA Pronunciation
-noun the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.

The dictionary disagrees with you. I've put the important part in bold and italics for you, to show it is not restricted to inducing chemicals to feel normal.

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There needs to be some kind of self help group or 12 step program for video gamers. I am so fricken tired from staying awake night after night till two am knowing I have to be up for work at six! "I can't go to bed now, Desert Glory is the next map!", or "As soon as I beat this boss I'm saving it and going to sleep!" Man I have problems! My neck hurts from nodding out so many times at my computer in my office!

Any one else? Thanks for sharing!

SnoSlider-PS3-

I have the same problem lol putting to many hrs in video games. It's fun but killing my social life My name is Crimson_Tide_ and i am addicted to video games!

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IMO video game addiction does not exist. Addiction is when you put a chemical into your body and then become dependent on those chemicals to feel "normal".Trigun1

Are you out of your mind? What kind of "behavorial psychologist" are you? Funneling foreign substance into your body is not the only way to become addicted. Bulimics are addicted to binging and purging, anorexics are addicted to not eating--the obsession here being losing weight, not any chemical or object induced. How about cutters? What are they inducing? Nothing. How about thumbsuckers? Porn addicts? Nail biters?

Video game addiction is a huge problem. There are a myriad of stories that prove this. Such as the EQ player who killed himself with a shotgun after his in-game girlfriend stole money. Or the other EQ player whose toddler died because he put her in a closet to avoid hearing her crying while he played EQ. How about the man in South Korea who played for some 72 consecutive hours and fell over dead in an internet cafe. Those guys weren't addicted, huh? Just casual gamers? Just "obsessive and compulsive"?

Get a clue, go back to community college, and rethink your career choice.

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#38 Rush2k
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There needs to be some kind of self help group or 12 step program for video gamers. I am so fricken tired from staying awake night after night till two am knowing I have to be up for work at six! "I can't go to bed now, Desert Glory is the next map!", or "As soon as I beat this boss I'm saving it and going to sleep!" Man I have problems! My neck hurts from nodding out so many times at my computer in my office!SnoSlider-PS3-

Dude, you have to set priorities. See, why be up til 2 a.m. and go to work at 6? Set your priorities. F work and play until 8 a.m.. :D

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#39 Starscream35
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i thought this guy was gonna say he loves video games and stuff but now that i have seen this i'd say....got to strip club in GTA 4.
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#40 ChiSoxBombers
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i suggest GAA (Game Addicts Anonymous)

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[QUOTE="Trigun1"]IMO video game addiction does not exist. Addiction is when you put a chemical into your body and then become dependent on those chemicals to feel "normal".noles82

Are you out of your mind? What kind of "behavorial psychologist" are you? Funneling foreign substance into your body is not the only way to become addicted. Bulimics are addicted to binging and purging, anorexics are addicted to not eating--the obsession here being losing weight, not any chemical or object induced. How about cutters? What are they inducing? Nothing. How about thumbsuckers? Porn addicts? Nail biters?

Video game addiction is a huge problem. There are a myriad of stories that prove this. Such as the EQ player who killed himself with a shotgun after his in-game girlfriend stole money. Or the other EQ player whose toddler died because he put her in a closet to avoid hearing her crying while he played EQ. How about the man in South Korea who played for some 72 consecutive hours and fell over dead in an internet cafe. Those guys weren't addicted, huh? Just casual gamers? Just "obsessive and compulsive"?

Get a clue, go back to community college, and rethink your career choice.

This guy says the truth. I had a gambling addiction. Wasn't putting anything in my body to become addicted to that. So by your theory I would have to put quarters in my rump and spew tokens out of my mouth to be a true addiction. Right pal. And original poster, if gaming has come to a point were you are feeling unhealthy in your life, sell it and move on. I gave up gambling cold turkey. It was very hard but I asked a friend to help me and they did. If you have someone you can trust and takes your addiction seriously, they can help. If its just habit forming and your just doing it because you are bored, then game on. Not a big deal.

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#42 TJSAGE
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I love my video games,some have said im addicted but i have other hobbies too. I watch films,read comic books,go out,i keep snakes and i have the BIGGEST action figure collection most people have ever seen.

If gaming is your sole interest then you need some more. I love gaming both new and retro but theres more than that!

noones-my-name

And now we have Steve Carrals roomate for the 40 year old virgin2

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[QUOTE="Trigun1"]IMO video game addiction does not exist. Addiction is when you put a chemical into your body and then become dependent on those chemicals to feel "normal". I am behavioral Psychologist at PSU and feel the term addiction is taken out of context too often and is being deluded by the layman. However, you may be obsessive and compulsive about your video game play which could cause a problem. However, real addiction will prevent people from going to work or even selling things like their cars or stealing to feed their addiction. Anything else is just a lack of personal control and responsibility. Now of course that is just my opinion, have fun and don't let your life be based around games.dazman31

ad⋅dic⋅tion

  /əˈdɪkʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [uh-dik-shuhn] Show IPA Pronunciation
-noun the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.

The dictionary disagrees with you. I've put the important part in bold and italics for you, to show it is not restricted to inducing chemicals to feel normal.

Look I found a few dictionaries that disagrees with you. Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary Addiction Function: noun : compulsive physiological need for and use of a habit-formingsubstance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substanceknown by the user to be physically, psychologically, or socially harmful Addiction Worldnet Noun 1. being abnormally tolerant to and dependent on something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming (especially alcohol or narcotic drugs) 2. an abnormally strong craving Legal usage in a court of law. Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law Addiction Function: noun : compulsive physiological need for a habit-forming drug (as heroin) Now take a look at compulsion. American Heritage Dictionary compulsion a. The act of compelling. b. The state of being compelled. c. An irresistible impulse to act, regardless of the rationality of the motivation: "The compulsion to protect the powerful from the discomfort of public disclosure feeds further abuse and neglect" (Boston Globe). d. An act or acts performed in response to such an impulse. 2. a. An irresistible impulse to act, regardless of the rationality of the motivation: "The compulsion to protect the powerful from the discomfort of public disclosure feeds further abuse and neglect" (Boston Globe). b. An act or acts performed in response to such an impulse. Worldnet compulsion Noun 1. an urge to do or say something that might be better left undone or unsaid; "he felt a compulsion to babble on about the accident" 2. an irrational motive for performing trivial or repetitive actions, even against your will; "her compulsion to wash her hands repeatedly" 3. using force to cause something to occur; "though pressed into rugby under compulsion I began to enjoy the game"; "they didn't have to use coercion" American Heritage Stedman's Medical Dictionary An uncontrollable impulse to perform an act, often repetitively, as an unconscious mechanism to avoid unacceptable ideas and desires which, by themselves, arouse anxiety. Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary compulsion Function: noun : an irresistible impulse to perform an irrational act How about obsession? American Heritage Dictionary obsession 1. Compulsive preoccupation with a fixed idea or an unwanted feeling or emotion, often accompanied by symptoms of anxiety. 2. A compulsive, often unreasonable idea or emotion. WorldNet obsession Noun 1. an irrational motive for performing trivial or repetitive actions, even against your will; "her compulsion to wash her hands repeatedly" [syn: compulsion] 2. an unhealthy and compulsive preoccupation with something or someone Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary Function: noun : a persistent disturbing preoccupation with an often unreasonable idea or feeling; also: something that causes such preoccupation After this dictionary lesson what have you learned? Nothing probably. Moving on to critic number 2.

[QUOTE="Trigun1"]IMO video game addiction does not exist. Addiction is when you put a chemical into your body and then become dependent on those chemicals to feel "normal".noles82

Are you out of your mind? What kind of "behavorial psychologist" are you? Funneling foreign substance into your body is not the only way to become addicted. Bulimics are addicted to binging and purging, anorexics are addicted to not eating--the obsession here being losing weight, not any chemical or object induced. How about cutters? What are they inducing? Nothing. How about thumbsuckers? Porn addicts? Nail biters?

Video game addiction is a huge problem. There are a myriad of stories that prove this. Such as the EQ player who killed himself with a shotgun after his in-game girlfriend stole money. Or the other EQ player whose toddler died because he put her in a closet to avoid hearing her crying while he played EQ. How about the man in South Korea who played for some 72 consecutive hours and fell over dead in an internet cafe. Those guys weren't addicted, huh? Just casual gamers? Just "obsessive and compulsive"?

Get a clue, go back to community college, and rethink your career choice.

Notice how there is not a mention of addiction for the definitions of these illneses? Anorexia Nervosa is a syndrome featuring the inability to maintain even a minimal body weight, excessive fear of weight gain and significant disturbance in body image. Individuals suffering from Anorexia perceive themselves to be overweight even when severely underweight. Anorexia Nervosa, which loosely means "a nervous loss of appetite", does not actually include a physical loss of appetite. Rather, it is a psychological desire for control and perfection. It is a reaction to stressful and unpleasant surroundings and emotions, and an attempt to cope with them. If you would like further evidence of you being wrong, I will list how Anorexia Nervosa is diagnosed from the DSM IV-TR. If you don't what that book is then that would explain your severe lack of knowledge on the subject. Moving on… Bulimia Nervosa is a condition characterized by binge eating followed by extreme measures to undo the binge. Self induced vomiting (purging), excessive use of laxatives and inappropriate use of diuretics are common undoing behaviors of the Bulimic. Unlike anorexics, bulimics are aware that they have an eating disorder. They binge (consume a large amount of food in a short period of time) and purge (rid themselves of the food by taking laxatives or vomiting) to punish themselves or to avoid or express feelings of anxiety, depression, and anger. Aside from these just being anecdotal stories you pulled from catchy news headlines, what proof do you have? A man is betrayed by his intimate partner and commits suicide? I could list a hundred cases where a man attempts or commits suicide because they were betrayed by their partner and is not related to video games. Did anybody think to ask "was the EQ player who put their child in closet is just a dick and bad parent?" Do you even know if there was a history of abuse of the child even when the father wasn't playing EQ? No you don't, what about parents who give their infant alcohol to shut them up? Bad parenting has nothing to do with video games. One story about a man who played 72 hours in an internet café, you would hope someone would notice a man playing a game for solid 3 days IN A CAFE before anyone noticed. Maybe the man was depressed with his life and sought an escape into a world where he had power and took that delusion too far? You list no empirical proof to your statement just news headlines that are meant to incite emotion so you can watch the ads. Are you deeming people with obsessive and compulsive illnesses? I hope not because that would suggest that you are very intolerant of the people in the world with uncontrollable urges that are illnesses. Why are you attacking people who cannot afford to go to a university? So you are going tell everyone here that because they went to community college that their education is not up to par to yours? And to keep the facts straight I am dual enrolled in a tier 3 and tier 2 researching university. If you actually believe what you have posted here, then I am truly sorry for you. drufeous: This guy says the truth. I had a gambling addiction. Wasn't putting anything in my body to become addicted to that. So by your theory I would have to put quarters in my rump and spew tokens out of my mouth to be a true addiction. Right pal. And original poster, if gaming has come to a point were you are feeling unhealthy in your life, sell it and move on. I gave up gambling cold turkey. It was very hard but I asked a friend to help me and they did. If you have someone you can trust and takes your addiction seriously, they can help. If its just habit forming and your just doing it because you are bored, then game on. Not a big deal. I am terrible sorry about your history of gambling but what you had was an illness that is not addiction. It was out your control stop because it was an illness. It is good to hear that you recovered. However, the American Psychiatric Association disagrees with your assessment that you had an addiction. Now, do not believe that trivializes your previous condition in anyway, it is just different that is all. Pathological gambling can be as dangerous to your life as a chemical addiction and in some cases harder to deal with because of the views of society. I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors! Pathological gambling is a progressive disease that devastates not only the gambler but everyone with whom he or she has a significant relationship. In 1980, the American Psychiatric Association accepted pathological gambling as a "disorder of impulse control." It is an illness that is chronic and progressive, but it can be diagnosed and treated.
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When people say I have a video game addiction/problem, I tell them that I'm at least not doing drugs or alcohol.

Shuts them up every time.

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[QUOTE="Trigun1"]IMO video game addiction does not exist. Addiction is when you put a chemical into your body and then become dependent on those chemicals to feel "normal". I am behavioral Psychologist at PSU and feel the term addiction is taken out of context too often and is being deluded by the layman. However, you may be obsessive and compulsive about your video game play which could cause a problem. However, real addiction will prevent people from going to work or even selling things like their cars or stealing to feed their addiction. Anything else is just a lack of personal control and responsibility. Now of course that is just my opinion, have fun and don't let your life be based around games.Trigun1

ad⋅dic⋅tion

  /əˈdɪkʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [uh-dik-shuhn] Show IPA Pronunciation
-noun the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.

The dictionary disagrees with you. I've put the important part in bold and italics for you, to show it is not restricted to inducing chemicals to feel normal.

Look I found a few dictionaries that disagrees with you. Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary Addiction Function: noun : compulsive physiological need for and use of a habit-formingsubstance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substanceknown by the user to be physically, psychologically, or socially harmful Addiction Worldnet Noun 1. being abnormally tolerant to and dependent on something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming (especially alcohol or narcotic drugs) 2. an abnormally strong craving Legal usage in a court of law. Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law Addiction Function: noun : compulsive physiological need for a habit-forming drug (as heroin) Now take a look at compulsion. American Heritage Dictionary compulsion a. The act of compelling. b. The state of being compelled. c. An irresistible impulse to act, regardless of the rationality of the motivation: "The compulsion to protect the powerful from the discomfort of public disclosure feeds further abuse and neglect" (Boston Globe). d. An act or acts performed in response to such an impulse. 2. a. An irresistible impulse to act, regardless of the rationality of the motivation: "The compulsion to protect the powerful from the discomfort of public disclosure feeds further abuse and neglect" (Boston Globe). b. An act or acts performed in response to such an impulse. Worldnet compulsion Noun 1. an urge to do or say something that might be better left undone or unsaid; "he felt a compulsion to babble on about the accident" 2. an irrational motive for performing trivial or repetitive actions, even against your will; "her compulsion to wash her hands repeatedly" 3. using force to cause something to occur; "though pressed into rugby under compulsion I began to enjoy the game"; "they didn't have to use coercion" American Heritage Stedman's Medical Dictionary An uncontrollable impulse to perform an act, often repetitively, as an unconscious mechanism to avoid unacceptable ideas and desires which, by themselves, arouse anxiety. Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary compulsion Function: noun : an irresistible impulse to perform an irrational act How about obsession? American Heritage Dictionary obsession 1. Compulsive preoccupation with a fixed idea or an unwanted feeling or emotion, often accompanied by symptoms of anxiety. 2. A compulsive, often unreasonable idea or emotion. WorldNet obsession Noun 1. an irrational motive for performing trivial or repetitive actions, even against your will; "her compulsion to wash her hands repeatedly" [syn: compulsion] 2. an unhealthy and compulsive preoccupation with something or someone Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary Function: noun : a persistent disturbing preoccupation with an often unreasonable idea or feeling; also: something that causes such preoccupation After this dictionary lesson what have you learned? Nothing probably. Moving on to critic number 2.

[QUOTE="Trigun1"]IMO video game addiction does not exist. Addiction is when you put a chemical into your body and then become dependent on those chemicals to feel "normal".noles82

Are you out of your mind? What kind of "behavorial psychologist" are you? Funneling foreign substance into your body is not the only way to become addicted. Bulimics are addicted to binging and purging, anorexics are addicted to not eating--the obsession here being losing weight, not any chemical or object induced. How about cutters? What are they inducing? Nothing. How about thumbsuckers? Porn addicts? Nail biters?

Video game addiction is a huge problem. There are a myriad of stories that prove this. Such as the EQ player who killed himself with a shotgun after his in-game girlfriend stole money. Or the other EQ player whose toddler died because he put her in a closet to avoid hearing her crying while he played EQ. How about the man in South Korea who played for some 72 consecutive hours and fell over dead in an internet cafe. Those guys weren't addicted, huh? Just casual gamers? Just "obsessive and compulsive"?

Get a clue, go back to community college, and rethink your career choice.

Notice how there is not a mention of addiction for the definitions of these illneses? Anorexia Nervosa is a syndrome featuring the inability to maintain even a minimal body weight, excessive fear of weight gain and significant disturbance in body image. Individuals suffering from Anorexia perceive themselves to be overweight even when severely underweight. Anorexia Nervosa, which loosely means "a nervous loss of appetite", does not actually include a physical loss of appetite. Rather, it is a psychological desire for control and perfection. It is a reaction to stressful and unpleasant surroundings and emotions, and an attempt to cope with them. If you would like further evidence of you being wrong, I will list how Anorexia Nervosa is diagnosed from the DSM IV-TR. If you don't what that book is then that would explain your severe lack of knowledge on the subject. Moving on… Bulimia Nervosa is a condition characterized by binge eating followed by extreme measures to undo the binge. Self induced vomiting (purging), excessive use of laxatives and inappropriate use of diuretics are common undoing behaviors of the Bulimic. Unlike anorexics, bulimics are aware that they have an eating disorder. They binge (consume a large amount of food in a short period of time) and purge (rid themselves of the food by taking laxatives or vomiting) to punish themselves or to avoid or express feelings of anxiety, depression, and anger. Aside from these just being anecdotal stories you pulled from catchy news headlines, what proof do you have? A man is betrayed by his intimate partner and commits suicide? I could list a hundred cases where a man attempts or commits suicide because they were betrayed by their partner and is not related to video games. Did anybody think to ask "was the EQ player who put their child in closet is just a dick and bad parent?" Do you even know if there was a history of abuse of the child even when the father wasn't playing EQ? No you don't, what about parents who give their infant alcohol to shut them up? Bad parenting has nothing to do with video games. One story about a man who played 72 hours in an internet café, you would hope someone would notice a man playing a game for solid 3 days IN A CAFE before anyone noticed. Maybe the man was depressed with his life and sought an escape into a world where he had power and took that delusion too far? You list no empirical proof to your statement just news headlines that are meant to incite emotion so you can watch the ads. Are you deeming people with obsessive and compulsive illnesses? I hope not because that would suggest that you are very intolerant of the people in the world with uncontrollable urges that are illnesses. Why are you attacking people who cannot afford to go to a university? So you are going tell everyone here that because they went to community college that their education is not up to par to yours? And to keep the facts straight I am dual enrolled in a tier 3 and tier 2 researching university. If you actually believe what you have posted here, then I am truly sorry for you. drufeous: This guy says the truth. I had a gambling addiction. Wasn't putting anything in my body to become addicted to that. So by your theory I would have to put quarters in my rump and spew tokens out of my mouth to be a true addiction. Right pal. And original poster, if gaming has come to a point were you are feeling unhealthy in your life, sell it and move on. I gave up gambling cold turkey. It was very hard but I asked a friend to help me and they did. If you have someone you can trust and takes your addiction seriously, they can help. If its just habit forming and your just doing it because you are bored, then game on. Not a big deal. I am terrible sorry about your history of gambling but what you had was an illness that is not addiction. It was out your control stop because it was an illness. It is good to hear that you recovered. However, the American Psychiatric Association disagrees with your assessment that you had an addiction. Now, do not believe that trivializes your previous condition in anyway, it is just different that is all. Pathological gambling can be as dangerous to your life as a chemical addiction and in some cases harder to deal with because of the views of society. I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors! Pathological gambling is a progressive disease that devastates not only the gambler but everyone with whom he or she has a significant relationship. In 1980, the American Psychiatric Association accepted pathological gambling as a "disorder of impulse control." It is an illness that is chronic and progressive, but it can be diagnosed and treated.

There is one definition of addiction in there that mentions that it is a sole dependence on substance mate. The other one stated that it is a "1. being abnormally tolerant to and dependent on something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming (especially alcohol or narcotic drugs)" so you supported my argument because notice it says 'especially' not 'only'.

Just one last note, i asked my mother who is a psychiatrist and has been for a good 20 years what she would define as an addcition, and yes she said that it has a lot of compulsive aspects to it but it is generally the need to DO or use something beyond control, nothing about restriction to only inducing substances. So with her experience compared to yours, especially with the trusty DSM-IV which you rely on so heavily and which i have in my possession also, concede that you are wrong.

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[QUOTE="Zidaneski"][QUOTE="jonny2202"][QUOTE="TJSAGE"]

Only way to cure 1 addiction is with another, I would suggest .....

Get obsessed over a girl

Mary Jane

Meds

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This guy's got the answer, go get l**d.

errr,...that is somewhat taking a step backwards.

how so? that made no sense

I doubt being a sex addict is healthier for you than being a game addict.

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I also work @ 6.. and i also love playing video games.. but i always put my work 1st before gaming.. even tho sumtimes its tempting 2 play video games al night.. thts wat weekends tht im not going out are for..
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I didn't realize this was a lecture hall or else I would have included citations and footnotes. I have more important things to do than go in circles with a self-titled psychologist. If you truly are, then you're going to screw a lot of people over with your contrived factoids.

I'm not trying to pinpoint a definition of eating disorders. It's something I grew up around and have a rather realistic and honest grasp on, not something I was spoonfed in a classroom. That's not the point. The point is that there are a myriad of addictions that do not require some sort of induction or injection, which was your original claim with addictions. But for the record, it is very much possible for anorexics to know they are anorexic. Not doing so is called denial, something many people with addictions go through. Maybe you've heard of it.

Say you're right about the man who played for 72 hours straight. He was looking for an escape and took it too far. How does that refute the notion that he had a video game addiction? That escape could have very well become his addiction.

And no, I'm not attacking people who go to a community college. I went to one myself. I'm merely suggesting you start from square one because you clearly made a terrible career choice. You're a crusader armed with a diploma, going around and arbitrarily spewing your psychological notions, and quite poorly I might add--your grammar is awful.

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Oh, and here:

http://www.tvnznetguidewebchallenge.co.nz/site/winners06/V99ish/TheProblem-Stories.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4137782.stm

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59697

And if you want empirical evidence, five seconds searching on the PsycNET database will yield you tons of results focusing on internet and video game addiction.

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I completely agree with Trigun1.

If a person takes painkillers, smokes cigarettes, drinks alcohol, or uses certain other drugs in high enough amounts for a long enough period of time, addiction is a certainty - no matter who you are.

If a pregnant woman is a crackhead (or whatever drug is the most popular now) and uses while she's pregnant, her baby will be a crackhead. The same can not be said for if she has an obession with World of Warcraft, Brad Pitt, or shopping.

If playing video games was truly addictive, almost all of us would be in halfway houses. One's individual compulsive personality does not make something an addiction just because it happens to be the focus of their compulsion or because they share the same compulsion as others. That doesn't mean that the compulsion isn't a real problem, but it's not an addiction.

To the original poster - I suggest taking an extended break from games. Completely remove them from your home for a while so as to remove the temptation, whether it's by selling them (drastic) or giving them to someone you trust with orders not to return them to you for a few months, no matter what you say. If you think your problem is more serious than that, get some real help. There's no shame in letting a therapist help you, especially if you truly need it.