I don't get Heavenly Sword. At all.

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#1 DJ_Lae
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I picked this up last week for $2.50 as part of Blockbuster's crazy blowout sale (also got Tools of Destruction for the same price, and Bioshock, and a few others). I remember it getting a ton of praise on launch, and even now going back and skimming reviews it seems as if it was universally adored. I vaguely remember playing it for an hour or so back when it came out.

But am I alone in thinking the game is wretched? Or am I just missing something?

The framerate is one of the most inconsistent I've ever seen in a PS3 game - it's arguably even worse than Bayonetta was pre-patch, and that was a massive embarassment compared to its 360 counterpart. Granted, Heavenly Sword came out three years ago and had basically no competition, but MAN. The combat is also all button mashing, and makes God of War look like a bloody Ninja Gaiden in terms of combat complexity. And I don't even want to get into the sixaxis aiming of arrows (which is one notch below the awfulsixaxis hand jerking in Folklore).

I don't care that the game lacks trophies, I don't care that the main character's hair moves in an incredibly disturbing way or looks like a manniquin composite of Keira Knightly and Angelina Jolie, it's just thecombination of erratic framerate and dumbed down combat and I'm having a hard time understanding why this game is so praised. Is my PS3 just on its way out and that's why the framerate is so horrible? Someone tell me that's the case.

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#2 z4twenny
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i really liked the game but i thought the frame rate hiccups were really annoying. i turned off the 6 axis and used the controller for the aiming and the lift combos. try the harder settings if you think its just button mashing. im not sure how far you got through it but i know im about halfway or 3/4 of the way through and combat starts becoming a little more tactical on the easy setting. it was however mostly button mashing initially (except for the boss battles)

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#3 Essian
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yeah, sorry, gonna have to disagree with you. Heavenly Sword was one of my favorite PS3 games, had a great story, great character, and some great gameplay. I played it a few times, and then made a video walkthrough for it which I put on Youtube. I found the graphics to be wonderful, and noticed very few issues, especially given the time it was released. The combat isn't THAT complex (but then, I can't say Ninja Gaiden is either, so I really must dispute your analogy), but it manages to change up the formula enough that it kept things interesting. I felt that the Sixaxis was well integrated, and since I only had to use it in a few instances, it didn't feel unecessarily integrated. On the whole, I pretty much disagree with everything you just said.
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#4 MaxPred2010
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I thought it was pretty good. Definitely shorter than any GOW game tho. But what Blockbuster sale is this? These all sound like old games.
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#5 dk00111
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Waaaaaiiiit, ToD and Bioshock for $2.50?? Is this sale still going on??
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#6 J-WOW
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The combat sucked, you never really get any new moves at all in the game just the samething over and over again. What made it great was the story and characters, also the sixaxis parts of the game were best. No other games has use sixaxis as well as HS. I dont know why your complaining, you picked up a good game for $2.50.
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#7 DJ_Lae
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I'm not too far into the game, so maybe the story will pick up a bit. I'm feeling a bit of the weirdness for buying a game so cheap, though - while part of me knows I got a great deal, I also know that my investment is so small that I don't feel compelled in any way to try and justify my purchase to myself. So I might end up hating it more than I would if I had paid full price.
Waaaaaiiiit, ToD and Bioshock for $2.50?? Is this sale still going on?? dk00111
I believe it's Canada only, and stock varies by location.
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#8 TJSAGE
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For a launch game when there was ZERO out it was well put together minus hiccups that almost all games had then.........Assasins creed had a message saying if you see a glitch press x??????

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#9 GrandJury
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I loved the game and I played it just this year. Beat it in one sitting and wanted to start it again right after.
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#10 Gen007
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yeah i found it to be very bland and short. At the time it came out though the ps3 was really struggling for good games which is why it got more attention then it deserved imo.

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5 minutes in the game and my hand was cramping due to the massive amount of button mashing.
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#12 The_Pig_Hostage
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.Assasins creed had a message saying if you see a glitch press x??????

TJSAGE
lol, I'm not sure if you're being serious... It was referring to flashes of "animus" data, not actual game glitches. (though it was a pretty glitchy game, admittedly) Anyway, Heavenly Sword was a good game, but it did feel like it had been rushed in some areas (combat being one of them). The story and presentation were top-notch though, especially for an early release.
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#13 CajunShooter
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Still has one of the best stories and best voice acting of any PS3 game even to this date. Andy Serkis delivers and amazing performance as King Bohan

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#14 LoG-Sacrament
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the framerate was never a major problem with me, although there were a few chugs in particularly large groupings of enemies.

you can switch sixaxis control over to the joystick if you prefer (which is actually what i did and it was far more precise while still breaking up the action).

as for the combat, its really not at its best (almost bland really) when you are only taking on a few, particularly the typical goon type, enemies. the more enemies on screen (and there are hundreds upon hundreds later on), the more it shines. theres a nice rhythm of playing defensively while switching around stances and building up to your specials that take out enemies in the hundreds and then going back to building up for specials again.

the performances add some life to the characters. serkis, in particular, captures the comical yet definitely evil nature of his character. he makes for a compelling villain.

the graphics have been surpassed now on a technical level, but there are some nice set pieces (wait until you see the arena for the last boss...) and i like the art style a lot. theres an interesting visual play of the beautiful versus the grotesque that works on a sort of melodramatic level.

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Waaaaaiiiit, ToD and Bioshock for $2.50?? Is this sale still going on?? dk00111
I believe it's Canada only, and stock varies by location.

OH MY GOD. *runs to nearest blockbuster*
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#16 dk00111
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[QUOTE="dk00111"]Waaaaaiiiit, ToD and Bioshock for $2.50?? Is this sale still going on?? supa_badman
I believe it's Canada only, and stock varies by location.

OH MY GOD. *runs to nearest blockbuster*

:( Living in the US is a double edged sword sometimes lol.
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#17 supa_badman
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Don't give me that, Canada always get the short end of the stick.

The video store? This is exactly how it went down for me.

'When this presentation is over, you will have a video store all ready for you to use.'

'OMG OMG OMG. YUS YUS. *checks PSN store* WTF MAN?'

1 year later...

'Oh, Canada can get the video store too. So there you go.'

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#18 Sepewrath
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For a launch game when there was ZERO out it was well put together minus hiccups that almost all games had then.........Assasins creed had a message saying if you see a glitch press x??????

TJSAGE
A glitch in the animus, not the game, what pressing X did was change the camera angle. Anyway HS was far from a button masher, you have to effectively use the three stances for combat and defense and you can use items in the environment and there is also timing based counter moves. If all your doing is mashing buttons though, I can see how you would get that impression. Like most sixaxis controlled mechanics, the after touch was a mess, but it was great once you turned it off the sixaxis. I definitely think your over selling the framerate drops, unless you got a different copy from me(I know you didn't) you act as if it happens every 5 seconds. Personally I couldn't disagree more, its a great game and I would recommend it to anyone.
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#19 dk00111
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Don't give me that, Canada always get the short end of the stick.

The video store? This is exactly how it went down for me.

'When this presentation is over, you will have a video store all ready for you to use.'

'OMG OMG OMG. YUS YUS. *checks PSN store* WTF MAN?'

1 year later...

'Oh, Canada can get the video store too. So there you go.'

supa_badman
I'd take the sale at blockbusters over the video store. :P I haven't used it at all. It's overpriced imo.
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#20 finalstar2007
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Waaaaaiiiit, ToD and Bioshock for $2.50?? Is this sale still going on?? dk00111

It is in Canada, i went to 5 blockbuster stores and all were..stold out -_-. im going again tomorrow :D

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#21 campzor
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everything is great about it besides the actual gameplay itself (no jump button...really?..)
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#22 mkaliaz
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This was perhaps the worst purchasing decision I ever made since getting my PS3 over 2.5 years ago. Terribly short and underwhelming game with garbage combat mechics and the SIRAXIS thing was just straight rediculous.

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#23 RogueShodown
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I was thinking the same thing when I played Perfect Dark: Zero. It seemed like one of the most rushed games I've ever played and the numerous little annoyances confirmed it. It was also a game with little competition since it came out on the 360's launch. The story was an excuse to go around and shoot people, which gets boring pretty fast. The aiming reminded me of playing an FPS on the PS2, but I'll give it an edge for being a launch title. The AI was just terrible and lips didn't synch up with the terrible voice acting. The knock-back from the bullets irritated me, especially with multiple enemies shooting at once. It was a good game for the time, but it's only passable now with all of the better First Person Shooters. Maybe it just looks so much worse to me because I've had the chance to play the better of an overly saturated genre, but I've had as much fun playing Black on the PS2 a few years ago.
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#24 Chaos_Bladez
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Wait, so you want someone to tell you that your PS3 is gonna die rather then this game's framerate isn't very good? :?
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Wait, so you want someone to tell you that your PS3 is gonna die rather then this game's framerate isn't very good? :?Chaos_Bladez
Well, not really. I just don't like hating games - and something always seems weird when I pick up a game rated 8+ by sites and users and find it complete garbage.
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#26 Diddies
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Well this was one of the first PS3 games. You have to expect this. Look at the first few PS2 games and the end PS2 games. Almost looks like a totall different console.
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[QUOTE="Chaos_Bladez"]Wait, so you want someone to tell you that your PS3 is gonna die rather then this game's framerate isn't very good? :?DJ_Lae
Well, not really. I just don't like hating games - and something always seems weird when I pick up a game rated 8+ by sites and users and find it complete garbage.

Haha I know, I'm kidding. ;) I haven't played the full game but the (short) demo was cool. I don't know if I've had that happen to me, I'm easily pleased with games and will find that silver lining.
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#28 finalserenade75
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Heavenly Sword was and still is one of my favorite games. The story is short, yet nice. The characters, even though you don't see a lot about them, are intresting. The gameplay gets more complex once you actually know more about it; in order to block you have to attack which is a pretty nice addition and adds way more complexity after a while. Arrows and catapults are nice once you get used to them. Fram rate... well I was never the person to care about it since I barely notice it.

As for the hair: How could you? :( It's one of the coolest things done ever.

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#29 x-2tha-z
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Heavenly Sword is one of the worst games I've ever played.
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#30 dovberg
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that reminds me of one of the old dc sales I found where I got soul calibre and about half the system's library for about $50 and some of the games weren't so great. I have only played the demo and the characters look annoying, and the combat wasn't very good but the graphics were good and I was thinking about getting it when/if I see it for $5 or under when PS4 comes out. I'm not expecting anything out of it, but hey you got some good games along with it for less than $5 so good for you, I wouldn't have any complaints personally, I love bio shock.

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#31 Justinps2hero
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Don't agree with the author at all. This game was really good when it came out, and even now is worth a play.
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yeah, sorry, gonna have to disagree with you. Heavenly Sword was one of my favorite PS3 games, had a great story, great character, and some great gameplay. I played it a few times, and then made a video walkthrough for it which I put on Youtube. I found the graphics to be wonderful, and noticed very few issues, especially given the time it was released. The combat isn't THAT complex (but then, I can't say Ninja Gaiden is either, so I really must dispute your analogy), but it manages to change up the formula enough that it kept things interesting. I felt that the Sixaxis was well integrated, and since I only had to use it in a few instances, it didn't feel unecessarily integrated. On the whole, I pretty much disagree with everything you just said.Essian
felt the same way, i agree with wat u said essian. HS was one of my favorite games and still is. oh and TC i dont mean to sound like im attacking u, but the pach for bayonetta wasnt for the frame rate, it was a patch to allow u to install the game and reduce the load times. and to be hoenst with u, i didnt notice or maybe i didnt care about it since the game was entertaining me, i barely noticed it. yea there was a some hicupps here and there but not to the point ur makin it out to be.. overall the game was/is still awesome and i reccomend it to others, and i loved everythin about it too bad there isnt a 2nd one

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#33 NamelessJay
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I hit up that oh so sweet blockbuster sale the other day. I picked up Katamari Forever, Devil May Cry 4, Dark Void, Red Faction Guerilla, Silent Hill Homecoming, Monster Madness Grave Danger, Facebreaker, Conan, Unreal Tournament 3. Alllll for $2.50 each:D

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#34 donalbane
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]

I picked this up last week for $2.50 as part of Blockbuster's crazy blowout sale (also got Tools of Destruction for the same price, and Bioshock, and a few others). I remember it getting a ton of praise on launch, and even now going back and skimming reviews it seems as if it was universally adored. I vaguely remember playing it for an hour or so back when it came out.

But am I alone in thinking the game is wretched? Or am I just missing something?

The framerate is one of the most inconsistent I've ever seen in a PS3 game - it's arguably even worse than Bayonetta was pre-patch, and that was a massive embarassment compared to its 360 counterpart. Granted, Heavenly Sword came out three years ago and had basically no competition, but MAN. The combat is also all button mashing, and makes God of War look like a bloody Ninja Gaiden in terms of combat complexity. And I don't even want to get into the sixaxis aiming of arrows (which is one notch below the awfulsixaxis hand jerking in Folklore).

I don't care that the game lacks trophies, I don't care that the main character's hair moves in an incredibly disturbing way or looks like a manniquin composite of Keira Knightly and Angelina Jolie, it's just thecombination of erratic framerate and dumbed down combat and I'm having a hard time understanding why this game is so praised. Is my PS3 just on its way out and that's why the framerate is so horrible? Someone tell me that's the case.

Dumbed down combat? Did you try the aerial combos? I thought they were amazing.
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#35 J-Man725
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I thought it was great. Granted, its not the most thought-intensive as far as gameplay, but it was still enjoyable.

Maybe I'm biased because it was one of the first games I played on my brand new PS3 however many years ago though.

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#36 Zidaneski
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Heavenly Sword is still one of my favorite games, the only thing bad I can say about it is that it is indeed a very short game. However, playing on hard mode is in fact, HARD. Button mashing gets you killed, especially on boss fights.

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#37 yungswift44
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i have to disagree..never had any hiccups, and the story was geat, and the gameplay was fun, it was short, but i beat it about 3 times so i didnt mind..

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#38 Hammstray
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[QUOTE="dk00111"][QUOTE="supa_badman"][QUOTE="dk00111"] I believe it's Canada only, and stock varies by location.

OH MY GOD. *runs to nearest blockbuster*

:( Living in the US is a double edged sword sometimes lol.

Dang! I was looking forward to going to Blockbuster soon... bummer...
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#39 Gxgear
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It was good for a launch title, it's only naturally for Heavenly Sword to pale in comparison to new releases.

I didn't liked the game that much either when I played it just over a year ago.

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Well i wish it was your ps3 dying cuz you dont seem like a nice person. I liked the game for being one of the early games. Story was solid enough and i liked the voice acting. Anyways sorry that people like what they like and we all dont like what you do. On behalf of all people with opinions i apologize and we will try to only like what you do.
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#41 DJ_Lae
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Well i wish it was your ps3 dying cuz you dont seem like a nice person. I liked the game for being one of the early games. Story was solid enough and i liked the voice acting. Anyways sorry that people like what they like and we all dont like what you do. On behalf of all people with opinions i apologize and we will try to only like what you do.ez_moneymaker
I don't find differing opinions odd, it's just that the rarely vary so much - or if I don't like a game (say, Modern Warfare 2 or Killzone 2) I can usually understand why other people do. Heavenly Sword baffles me on both counts. Same goes with Folklore, which I also find terrible, or PGR3 (using another console for the example), both of which I feel got way too much credit from the barren launch landscape for each system.
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#42 wooooode
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The fighting gets crazy when you are doing all the proper blocks and attacks later but the arrow aiming is lame. I have never been a big fan of the motion controls and have had a Wii since launch.