I think mgs3 is better than mgs4

Even though im not much of a fan of the metal gear series as some of my friends is :P

Well anyways im almost finally done beating the game for the first time. pretty close to act 4. & truthfully i like mgs3 better. the gameplay feels a whole lot better imo, i miss how you can rely on your survival instincts in that game. eating any aminal that comes in your way basically , i dont know i just enjoyed mgs3 more maybe im considered crazy :P

well at least im not that guy stating haze is better :lol:

hm really?

I personally thought MGS3 was the worst of them all. It's a matter of taste, I guess.

i did miss the survival part ofmgs3 when i played 4, but at the same time, it wouldnt have made much sense in that one since that wasnt really snakes thing.

anyway, if i had to put my favs in an order out of just the solid games, it would probly be like (fav to least)

mgs4, mgs3, ms1, mgs:po, mgs2. but again thats not countin the originals

I completely agree.

Yes MGS4 looks better but storyline wise MGS3 stands out.

Plus, considering the console it was on it does look amazing.

I completely agree.

Yes MGS4 looks better but storyline wise MGS3 stands out.

Plus, considering the console it was on it does look amazing.

eregol

Ok, first of all, I like MGS3 of al the MGS games.

Now that's out of the way, what do you mean by MGS3's story standing out?

Do you mean that it has a better story than the other games?

Because that's stupid. It's a chapter in an epic saga and to say that it has a "better story" than the other games is just foolishness.

You can't compare and contrast the stories of the MGS games because they would all fail if any one of them were missing; they're codependable.

I agree with you.

The gameplay on the game was fine, its looked good at the time. The boss battles were far better, and the theme was better.

I liked how you really had to sneak to get anywhere. In MGS4 you can run and gun a lot of it which is annoying. With MGS3 you must time.

Plus you could get your own food and it was pretty fun eating loads of rotten stuff :P

The story is miles ahead too.

Plus I dont know why but whenever I think of MGS, andy MGS game the theme tune from MGS3 always comes to mind, the one with the trumpet bits in it.

so yeah, MGS3 is the best of the lot imo.

[QUOTE="eregol"]

I completely agree.

Yes MGS4 looks better but storyline wise MGS3 stands out.

Plus, considering the console it was on it does look amazing.

Scianix-Black

Ok, first of all, I like MGS3 of al the MGS games.

Now that's out of the way, what do you mean by MGS3's story standing out?

Do you mean that it has a better story than the other games?

Because that's stupid. It's a chapter in an epic saga and to say that it has a "better story" than the other games is just foolishness.

Nope, look what he had written again my friend :P

he has stated among mgs4 and mgs3 story wise- mgs3 is better

Wow!! You finally have said something I can agree with, dude!!

MGS3 is my fav, totally loved the story, the battles and characters... as for MGS4, yes it looks better, but I don't care about graphs, and the new control settings felt weird IMO. Also there was tons of story parts that could've easily been cut down and that way not making it boring at those parts. Like what parts?? The ending come to my mind, where as in MGS3 the ending was PER-****ING-FECT

hm really?

I personally thought MGS3 was the worst of them all. It's a matter of taste, I guess.

ejstrup

Surely, we can agree MSG2 was the worse in its series... Out of MSG3 and 4 I'd go with 3 also because the healing interface was pretty awesome imo...

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Wow!! You finally have said something I can agree with, dude!!

MGS3 is my fav, totally loved the story, the battles and characters... as for MGS4, yes it looks better, but I don't care about graphs, and the new control settings felt weird IMO. Also there was tons of story parts that could've easily been cut down and that way not making it boring at those parts. Like what parts?? The ending come to my mind, where as in MGS3 the ending was PER-****ING-FECT

realistic44

Well i was going to put haze but i knew you would disagree with that, so just in the nick of time i switched haze to mgs3, plus that other person already stoled my idea :lol:

This calls for a celebration although i ran out of vodka i need someone trustworthy and loyal to get the beer :P , the thing i hate about mgs4 the most is its long boring cut scene's the ones about gene's and chromosomes or whatever- health related lol :P- anything about health i just zone out from there :lol:

Yeah, baby... bring those beers asap!!!

And yeah, there were parts where I was like "**** Kojima, do we really need to hear this ****??" :(

[QUOTE="realistic44"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Wow!! You finally have said something I can agree with, dude!!

MGS3 is my fav, totally loved the story, the battles and characters... as for MGS4, yes it looks better, but I don't care about graphs, and the new control settings felt weird IMO. Also there was tons of story parts that could've easily been cut down and that way not making it boring at those parts. Like what parts?? The ending come to my mind, where as in MGS3 the ending was PER-****ING-FECT

GreenGoblin2099

Well i was going to put haze but i knew you would disagree with that, so just in the nick of time i switched haze to mgs3, plus that other person already stoled my idea :lol:

This calls for a celebration although i ran out of vodka i need someone trustworthy and loyal to get the beer :P , the thing i hate about mgs4 the most is its long boring cut scene's the ones about gene's and chromosomes or whatever- health related lol :P- anything about health i just zone out from there :lol:

Yeah, baby... bring those beers asap!!!

And yeah, there were parts where I was like "**** Kojima, do we really need to hear this ****??" :(

at least better than the first boss battle at least, damn that chick is annoying

laughing hysterically - wtf - now i understand why people want to sell the game when they beat it :lol:

I completely agree.

Yes MGS4 looks better but storyline wise MGS3 stands out.

Plus, considering the console it was on it does look amazing.

eregol

MGS 4 needed about 25% more gameplay and 25% less cut-scene play time. Then it would've been perfect.patriots7672

People like you kind of annoy me. Do you not care about the storyline and characters or what? Of course you probably don't since most gamers are brain-dead and do not know how to read a book. So how could they possibly enjoy a story in their games? I guess they can't.

[QUOTE="patriots7672"]MGS 4 needed about 25% more gameplay and 25% less cut-scene play time. Then it would've been perfect.---Saint---

People like you kind of annoy me. Do you not care about the storyline and characters or what? Of course you probably don't since most gamers are brain-dead and do not know how to read a book. So how could they possibly enjoy a story in their games? I guess they can't.

Even though im not much of a fan of the metal gear series as some of my friends is :P

Well anyways im almost finally done beating the game for the first time. pretty close to act 4. & truthfully i like mgs3 better. the gameplay feels a whole lot better imo, i miss how you can rely on your survival instincts in that game. eating any aminal that comes in your way basically , i dont know i just enjoyed mgs3 more maybe im considered crazy :P

well at least im not that guy stating haze is better :lol:

realistic44

Everyone has an opinion and we must be respectful of that. I am only going to point out some things about MGS3 which make me feel completely opposite of you. In fact, I think MGS3 is the worst control scheme of the entire Series.

Yes, I have played every single MGS game to include the 8 bit versions and PSP.

So here is where MGS3 fallls apart. Think about this......

When you are looking in First Person Perspective mode to aim your gun. YOU CAN'T MOVE. You must get out of First Person Mode to move your character.

When You are running around in 3rd Person mode, you can move but it's hard to aim since there is no really good retickle to go by.

If you are running in 3rd Person Mode with your gun drawn, you have lots of mobility and just about Zero chance of hitting anything.

The Cammo Idea. How stupid is this. Who in the world will be carring enough clothes to open a clothing company to the battle field. The fact that you have to crawl 10 feet and change clothes, then crawl another 10 and change again is not only stupid, but unrealistic.

Eating. Why does Snake eat so much? I mean, when I sit down to play the game. I don't have to stop and eat as often as the character does. So why waste my time with it. I don't remember the last time I watched an action movie and said. "You know, my favorite scene is when the guy stops and eats to regain his energy and heal his wounds"

The Camera does not work. OK. There are two versions of the game Snake Eater and Subsitence. Forgive me if I spelled it wrong. Snake Eater was broken. Why? Because the camera angles do not work for an open environment like the jungle. PERIOD. If you think of all previous MGS games to this one. The environments where in a building for the most part and very tight. This allowed the camera to work just fine. In MGS3 it does not work. So much so that Kojima agreed and attempted to fix it with Subsistence. In many cases you will be crawling and switch to First Person mode only to realize there is somebody right there. 10 feet from you, looking at you with a"!" over their head. It was terrible. Now you have to crawl and change to First Person mode every 5 feet to make sure you can see in the distance where you are crawling too.

Subsistence is an improvement but it also had bugs. The camera felt loose as if it where tacked on as an after fact. Well. IT WAS!!! The other thing that was frustrating is that if you are crawling and get near tall grass, you go into First Person mode without wanting. It was terrible because there could be a guy right next to you and you wish to crawl around or away from him but in high grass the camera angel changed so that you can't see the enemy at all.

This is why MGS3 was terrible. Loved the story and glad I played it in order to keep the series going for me, but I was disappointed in the implementation of the controls.

Kojima learned from this HUGE Mistake and changed it all in MGS4.

MGS4: Camera feels tight and responsive. You can walk around in 3rd person with a good reticle and shoot people with out issues. You can WALK around in First Person and shoot people easily. You can crawl and blend to your environment without changing clothes every ten feet. You can control your camera at all times and always have a clear picture of the action.

Best of all: You can play as a Stealth game, Action Shooter or Stealth/Shooter. YOUR CHOICE. That is realistic.

Now only if we can cut down on the cutscenes and have more ingame story telling, we will be GOLD!

Just my opinion.

[QUOTE="realistic44"]

Even though im not much of a fan of the metal gear series as some of my friends is :P

Well anyways im almost finally done beating the game for the first time. pretty close to act 4. & truthfully i like mgs3 better. the gameplay feels a whole lot better imo, i miss how you can rely on your survival instincts in that game. eating any aminal that comes in your way basically , i dont know i just enjoyed mgs3 more maybe im considered crazy :P

well at least im not that guy stating haze is better :lol:

proximo642

Everyone has an opinion and we must be respectful of that. I am only going to point out some things about MGS3 which make me feel completely opposite of you. In fact, I think MGS3 is the worst control scheme of the entire Series.

Yes, I have played every single MGS game to include the 8 bit versions and PSP.

So here is where MGS3 fallls apart. Think about this......

When you are looking in First Person Perspective mode to aim your gun. YOU CAN'T MOVE. You must get out of First Person Mode to move your character.

When You are running around in 3rd Person mode, you can move but it's hard to aim since there is no really good retickle to go by.

If you are running in 3rd Person Mode with your gun drawn, you have lots of mobility and just about Zero chance of hitting anything.

The Cammo Idea. How stupid is this. Who in the world will be carring enough clothes to open a clothing company to the battle field. The fact that you have to crawl 10 feet and change clothes, then crawl another 10 and change again is not only stupid, but unrealistic.

Eating. Why does Snake eat so much? I mean, when I sit down to play the game. I don't have to stop and eat as often as the character does. So why waste my time with it. I don't remember the last time I watched an action movie and said. "You know, my favorite scene is when the guy stops and eats to regain his energy and heal his wounds"

The Camera does not work. OK. There are two versions of the game Snake Eater and Subsitence. Forgive me if I spelled it wrong. Snake Eater was broken. Why? Because the camera angles do not work for an open environment like the jungle. PERIOD. If you think of all previous MGS games to this one. The environments where in a building for the most part and very tight. This allowed the camera to work just fine. In MGS3 it does not work. So much so that Kojima agreed and attempted to fix it with Subsistence. In many cases you will be crawling and switch to First Person mode only to realize there is somebody right there. 10 feet from you, looking at you with a"!" over their head. It was terrible. Now you have to crawl and change to First Person mode every 5 feet to make sure you can see in the distance where you are crawling too.

Subsistence is an improvement but it also had bugs. The camera felt loose as if it where tacked on as an after fact. Well. IT WAS!!! The other thing that was frustrating is that if you are crawling and get near tall grass, you go into First Person mode without wanting. It was terrible because there could be a guy right next to you and you wish to crawl around or away from him but in high grass the camera angel changed so that you can't see the enemy at all.

This is why MGS3 was terrible. Loved the story and glad I played it in order to keep the series going for me, but I was disappointed in the implementation of the controls.

Kojima learned from this HUGE Mistake and changed it all in MGS4.

MGS4: Camera feels tight and responsive. You can walk around in 3rd person with a good reticle and shoot people with out issues. You can WALK around in First Person and shoot people easily. You can crawl and blend to your environment without changing clothes every ten feet. You can control your camera at all times and always have a clear picture of the action.

Best of all: You can play as a Stealth game, Action Shooter or Stealth/Shooter. YOUR CHOICE. That is realistic.

Now only if we can cut down on the cutscenes and have more ingame story telling, we will be GOLD!

Just my opinion.

I enjoyed the game-play of MGS4, but I'd say it has the least interesting bosses of the series. MGS3 had unique bosses that were truly different from each other; MGS4 has a bunch of crazy chicks in special suits. To that extent, I also like #3 better.Bubble_Man

The bosses in four looked cool but something about their stories felt tacked on. Or maybe it was the way drebin told the stories that made it feel that way. This game is still wonderful though. The long cutscenes were kinda necessary to tell the story of the patriots and to pull the whole thing back together.

Haha and I love how kojima made all the raiden haters say "OMG I WANNA PLAY RAIDEN IN MGS4".

[QUOTE="patriots7672"]MGS 4 needed about 25% more gameplay and 25% less cut-scene play time. Then it would've been perfect.---Saint---

People like you kind of annoy me. Do you not care about the storyline and characters or what? Of course you probably don't since most gamers are brain-dead and do not know how to read a book. So how could they possibly enjoy a story in their games? I guess they can't.

i'm confused by what you are trying to say, but i read it as the actual game play doesn't matter so long as it has a good story?