If They Make MGS5 What Should They Focus On?

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#1 redskins2156
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I'm pretty sure they will make mgs5, so I think they really need to focus on the AI and graphics (yes I said graphics). First off the reason I say graphics is because, you compare mgs4 to games like Uncharted1&2 or Killzone 2. I'm not saying the graphics were bad in mgs4 but certain areas needed work, and weknowwhat the PS3 is capable of graphics wise. And the AI didn't seem todifferent from the previous MGS games, eventhough it was some what of an upgrade. One games AI that really stood out to me was killzone 2. They used cover perfectly, and if they knew you were trying to camp in an area they would try to frag you out. What do you guys think they should focus on? And remember what I stated above is just my opinion I'm not here to start an argumentor anything. :D

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#2 CanadianCR
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More gameplay .. less cinematics ..

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#4 redskins2156
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I sort of agree with you, I do want more gameplay, but I say keep the cinematics the same. Thats the best way to tell a story

More gameplay .. less cinematics ..

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#5 CanadianCR
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Port it to the 360.

I wanna hear the fannerds cry.

Scianix-Black

:lol: Oh man the uproar would be keep us entertained for months ..

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#6 Legendaryscmt
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For me, I'd want them to focus on a story that isn't a true sequel to MGS4, but something like a prequel, such as Raiden's experiences between Sons of Liberty and Guns of the Patriots. I just don't want some sequel that feels tacked on and not needed.

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#7 CanadianCR
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I sort of agree with you, I do want more gameplay, but I say keep the cinematics the same. Thats the best way to tell a story [QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

More gameplay .. less cinematics ..

redskins2156

Well there are ways to tell a great story without having to sit you though hours upon hours of cinematics .. or break them up .. I really enjoyed the game, but didn't like having to watch hour long cinematics .. was boring to me.

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#8 brotherreese
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Port it to the 360.

I wanna hear the fannerds cry.

Scianix-Black
Sure, right after they put Halo 1, 2, and 3 on the PS3.
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I just don't want them to do anything to screw with the story we've just seen complete. I am totally content with the way things ended and I do not want that tampered with . I really feel their best bet would either be a prequal that covers all the mysteries behind Raiden and how he saved Sunny, became a Cyborg, delivered that corpse to Big Mama, etc, etc..... Or they could do a remake of the very first two games where we get to play as Solid Snake in his prime when he took down Big Boss the first two times. I think it'd be great to put both games together and leave out all the cenematics. The stories for those two games are pretty cut and dry. That would leave tons of room for that awesome stealth gameplay. Plus, I'd like to play as young snake again and LOVE to see him actually battle it out with the old man.
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#10 PSP107
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More gameplay .. less cinematics ..

CanadianCR
How can anyone not agree with this?
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#11 xmitchconnorx
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For me, I'd want them to focus on a story that isn't a true sequel to MGS4, but something like a prequel, such as Raiden's experiences between Sons of Liberty and Guns of the Patriots. I just don't want some sequel that feels tacked on and not needed.

Legendaryscmt

I agree, there is so much untold story between those two games.
[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

More gameplay .. less cinematics ..

PSP107

How can anyone not agree with this?

I don't see how any Metal Gear fan would want this either. I don't see the problem with the cinematics, less cinematics would hurt the story there end hurting the overall feel of the game.

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#12 Denji
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Port it to the 360.

I wanna hear the fannerds cry.

CanadianCR

:lol: Oh man the uproar would be keep us entertained for months ..

You guys don't get sick of it? LOL

I think it sucks when all you seem to see/hear is "MGS4 to 360?" even though it has been debunked a thousand times. It just gets boring..

I just don't understand why people still carry on with that.

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#13 redskins2156
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I'd also want them to use PSN servers for MGO and not konami's. Buying addons from PSN is so much easier
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#14 Diddies
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It would be cool to see a ninja twist into the game as the cool Raiden now as main character.

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#15 THQ88
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if it's it's going to be an open world stealth game, Kojima needs to make sure he enriches the gameplay as much as possible. And of course I want Kojima to make the story and new characters fit with previous MGS games. More easter eggs, more unlockables, trophies etc..........

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#16 WR_Platinum
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[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

More gameplay .. less cinematics ..

PSP107

How can anyone not agree with this?

Because you and the guy above are not fans of the series? Yes.

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#17 CanadianCR
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[QUOTE="PSP107"][QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

More gameplay .. less cinematics ..

WR_Platinum

How can anyone not agree with this?

Because you and the guy above are not fans of the series? Yes.

:lol: Assumption ..

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#18 WR_Platinum
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[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"] How can anyone not agree with this?CanadianCR

Because you and the guy above are not fans of the series? Yes.

:lol: Assumption ..

Nope, just stating a fact ;)

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#19 CanadianCR
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[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

Because you and the guy above are not fans of the series? Yes.

WR_Platinum

:lol: Assumption ..

Nope, just stating a fact ;)

A very misinformed fact .. ;)

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#20 Diddies
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[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

:lol: Assumption ..

CanadianCR

Nope, just stating a fact ;)

A very misinformed fact .. ;)

So are you a fan or not because usually a fan of a certain video game doesn't crap on it. I'm confused?

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#21 WR_Platinum
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[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

:lol: Assumption ..

CanadianCR

Nope, just stating a fact ;)

A very misinformed fact .. ;)

Not when you know how the rest of the MGS games are, they are all about the long cut scenes, gameplay comes second. Fact ;)

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#22 heatfanman101
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More gameplay .. less cinematics ..

CanadianCR

this would make me sad

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#23 paperdollparade
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[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

More gameplay .. less cinematics ..

heatfanman101

this would make me sad

I think they should add more gameplay and think of some way to meld the gameplay into the cinematic experience. I really enjoyed the cinematics in MGS4, but they really should think of a way of getting that cinematic exeriance through gameplay (not QTE).
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#24 M0wen10
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More gameplay .. less cinematics ..

CanadianCR

Exactly what I was going to say. Half the time I was nearly asleep. Especially during the mission briefings.

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#25 kingdre
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More gameplay .. less cinematics ..

CanadianCR

I wouldn't want that. If they want to add more time to the gameplay that's fine. But it just wouldn't feel like MGS if they did away with the long cutscenes.

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#26 adizorz
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well i think its wrong to compare mgs5 to four.

mgs4 had to tie alot of knots in terms of the story, i don't think that mgs5 will have that problem, if it is related to the previous games at all, i really don't think there is anything to worry about this game.

So the arguement about less cinematics is right, mgs4 did have too many cinematics, i loved them but there was still too much. Hideo kojima knows this.

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#27 adizorz
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[QUOTE="heatfanman101"]

[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

More gameplay .. less cinematics ..

paperdollparade

this would make me sad

I think they should add more gameplay and think of some way to meld the gameplay into the cinematic experience. I really enjoyed the cinematics in MGS4, but they really should think of a way of getting that cinematic exeriance through gameplay (not QTE).

well think about how cinematic the chase scene was, when you take your aim away it goes to a very cinematic perspective which really worked well.

But lets say we are at the end of act 1, lets say we make that gameplay, snake has to sneak around totally undetected otherwise its fission mailed in that environment, then he has to get to a position where he can shoot ocelet, camera is briefly taken control of to show rat patrol, then when you press the aim button and the recticle is over ocelet's head the nanomachines could go all haywire, and then you are trying to get through the madness closer to snake and then you fall on the ground, then cutscene.

The only real problem with this, its kind of inconsistent going through zones of the game where if you get caught and alert phase happens, but in other aeras its game over instantly.

this is just one example, sometimes its better to have entire cutescenes, but there aren't many arguements that you can make for story telling through a gameplay perspective at least for mgs.

I agree that they need to make more of the story told through gameplay, but you have to agree that there must be some concessions made for consistency throughout the gameplay

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#28 jasopan
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The cutscenes were epic...
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Better AI, more realistic movements, bigger stages, more GEKOS, more enemies, and to have pssycho mantis as your allie :D
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#30 redskins2156
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Good point

well i think its wrong to compare mgs5 to four.

mgs4 had to tie alot of knots in terms of the story, i don't think that mgs5 will have that problem, if it is related to the previous games at all, i really don't think there is anything to worry about this game.

So the arguement about less cinematics is right, mgs4 did have too many cinematics, i loved them but there was still too much. Hideo kojima knows this.

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[QUOTE="paperdollparade"][QUOTE="heatfanman101"]

[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

More gameplay .. less cinematics ..

this would make me sad

I think they should add more gameplay and think of some way to meld the gameplay into the cinematic experience. I really enjoyed the cinematics in MGS4, but they really should think of a way of getting that cinematic exeriance through gameplay (not QTE).

I completely agree. I love the stories and cenematics of the MGS series, but I also love the gameplay. I'd like more of a balance of both. While enjoy the cenematic experience of the games the fact is that I'm supposed to be playing a game, too! I think they should leave the cenematics in all their glory, but they should definately break them up a bit and add more game time. I like hiding in boxes and cutting throats. I'd prefer as much of that as I can get!
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#32 PSP107
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[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

[QUOTE="CanadianCR"]

:lol: Assumption ..

Nope, just stating a fact ;)

A very misinformed fact .. ;)

very misinformed as MGS1(PS1) was my 1st true 1 player game i went i liked. Had 2 3 and 4 came with my PS3.
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#33 chriseph13
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i also think they should cover the story on raiden and how he got sunny from the patriots and delivered the big boss body (which was solidus) to big mama
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#34 newhighscore
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Either a game following Raidens journey... or another game as Big Boss. Hes the MAN. Hes who Snake is just a bad genetic replicant of. Id like to play as BB in a more modern era though. No bolt action rifles or anything of that sort. More CQC and stealth. More epic boss battles! Less mission Briefings! Drop me off and break it down to me when I get there.

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#35 mecadas
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a well-balance game about game play an cinematics helps to be a great game but that worst les if you don't have a great history .
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#36 Bonadooch
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they should definitely get rid of the hour long cinematics that was annoying

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#37 xmitchconnorx
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If you don't like the cinematics than you shouldn't play the game. Every Metal Gear Solid has had lengthy cut scenes, the story in MGS has always been important. So if the cut scenes have to be long to tell that story, so be it.
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#38 matchpenalty11
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More gameplay, same amount of cutscenes. If you don't like the cutscenes skip them. Also I think the original story arc is over. Have a new character and new story arc setwithin the same universe. Perhaps have characters from the original arc have cameo appearances and for the most part take a back seat to the new characters.

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#39 Bow-T_88
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They should cut those cutscene lengths in half, it makes the game extremely boring. For real, METAL GEAR 4 was like a movie, that is why I traded it for resistance 2. And i dont mind a new character, just address the cutscene crap
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#40 TrevCubsOr21
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ONLINE... im dying for a new MGO that does have the problems this last one had
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they should focus on making it cooperative for campaign and not making a crappy online multiplayer..

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I just don't want them to do anything to screw with the story we've just seen complete. I am totally content with the way things ended and I do not want that tampered with . I really feel their best bet would either be a prequal that covers all the mysteries behind Raiden and how he saved Sunny, became a Cyborg, delivered that corpse to Big Mama, etc, etc..... Or they could do a remake of the very first two games where we get to play as Solid Snake in his prime when he took down Big Boss the first two times. I think it'd be great to put both games together and leave out all the cenematics. The stories for those two games are pretty cut and dry. That would leave tons of room for that awesome stealth gameplay. Plus, I'd like to play as young snake again and LOVE to see him actually battle it out with the old man. Nephilim83
I agree 100%. If they are going to make a MGS5, its probably going to be a prequal, maybe playing as Big Boss since Snakes missions were pretty much covered as far as timeframe goes. Raiden dissapeared for a good while that leaves room for a game of its own, or even being able to play MGS4 from Raidens perspective would be pretty cool! As far as the ciemeatics go, well thats just Metal Gear people, its always had long elaborate ciematics from day 1. I hope that never changes because I would hate to see a series stray from its roots. If you don't like watching them, just skip'em and leave it for those who do like them. The option is there.
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#43 redskins2156
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They had to tie all the loose ends thats why the cutscenes were so long in 4.

they should definitely get rid of the hour long cinematics that was annoying

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