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#1 UchihaAmetarasu
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The tv i have bought does not support 1080p and the guy told me that tv  i purchased has a game mode specifically for playing games, though it only supports 1080i. I just have one question, is there a game that supports or will support 1080p in the near future? Thank's alot .
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#2 biggamerhk
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yeah there is. but ur PS3 will upgrade the 1080; game to 1080i, which is basically the same thing. so your set to go, and u dont need to worry about it. i have a 1080i tv too.
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#3 demonik_360
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yeah there is. but ur PS3 will upgrade the 1080; game to 1080i, which is basically the same thing. so your set to go, and u dont need to worry about it. i have a 1080i tv too.biggamerhk
mine supports all but 1080p but then again its only a 32in so i guess it wouldnt really show a diffrence...
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#4 jackle2071
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so far i can only think of one game that will run in full 1080p and thats ninja giden. most games only run at about 720p sio your cool
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#5 guyhunter
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In my current collection Virtua Fighter 5, Virtua Tennis 3, and Ridge Racer 7 all support HD up to 1080p.  Not that I care my TV only does 480i, 480p, 576i, 576p, 720p, and 1080i.  So I say NO 1080p isn't a must (translation: Sony X series are very expensive here in Australia).

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#6 clsnbrdr616
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Yeah, the highest mine can do is only 1080i, but I think it still looks great. Mines only a 30" so 1080p wouldn't make a huge difference on that size anyway. The only complaint I would have about the 1080i is the flickering you get sometimes (ie. the thin white lines in the XMB sometimes get a slight flickering), but to me it isn't really noticable so its not really important to me. Some people say that 1080i doesn't do very well with fast motion in games/movies, but I haven't noticed anything so, I guess that isn't a big deal to me either. I guess its just all about how picky you are. If you like the way things look at 1080i on your TV then you're probably just fine. :)
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#7 unimpendium115
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The tv i have bought does not support 1080p and the guy told me that tv  i purchased has a game mode specifically for playing games, though it only supports 1080i. I just have one question, is there a game that supports or will support 1080p in the near future? Thank's alot .UchihaAmetarasu
Dont be so fast to buy because in about 7 months your going to be wanting 3DHDTV it was at the 2007 expo Google it,its pretty fascinating and no longer costs 10K.
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#8 iDerek759
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I wouldn't say it's a must, it all comes down to your own personal preference. I have a 32" that supports 480p, 720p and 1080i and it alreadly looks great on just 720p.
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#9 BroweChisox
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You probably have some nasty Insignia or Slimfit CRT if I had to guess.
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#10 Kuruption84
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Not really, you won't even notice the difference especially on a TV that size.
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#11 freediro
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well if you buying it to also fully enjoy blu-ray then yes 1080p is nice, but seriously 1080i will do you just fine, because unless you have like a 50inch tv you cant really notice 1080p, i wouldn't worry
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#12 gimlifn
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No 1080p is not a must for games I have a 40" Sony Bravia LCD 1080p and the games do look a little better than my 1080i tv but not a big difference. I notice the bigger differnce when I watch a Blu Ray movie but even then if you already have a nice 1080i/720p tv then don't bother upgrading to a 1080p.
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#13 VERS1ON
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More or less echoing earlier comments, from what I've heard the difference between 720p and 1080p is negligible on anything less than 30", and 1080i/p is more or less the same on anything less than 40".
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#14 UchihaAmetarasu
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Well im planning on getting a 40 inch tv for the purpose of blu ray and gaming, and i have a choice of getting a tv that supports 1080i and a game mode and another tv that supports 1080p but does not have game mode. Which one should i go for? 1080p or game mode.
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#15 b11051973
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1080p is nice, but not a must have.  Going to 1080p is nothing like going from SD to HD.  I have a 720p 50" HDTV and it looks amazing.
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#16 Secretwatcher
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1080p no question.
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#17 ckyro1
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1080p is a way to get your money. plain and simple. anyone into video will tell you that. i even read an interview with Mr. Runco. If you don't know him, his company makes some of, if not the best projectors in the world for home and commercial use. He even states that there is no difference even on large screens unless you are practically sitting right in front of the screen. Save your money. If you have 720p or 1080i stick with it unless you need to upgrade. I think what some see as a better picture has nothing to do with 1080i vs. 1080p, but more to do with the technolgy in the monitors/projectors getting better. ex. sxrd, better dlp chips, etc. i have seen my set 1080i, playing next to a new version playing the exact same movie. no difference in picture quality, but the new set had slightly better blacks. this was due to sxrd, and not 1080p.
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#18 The_Todd_5
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I've got 1080i. It looks just fine.
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1080p is a way to get your money. plain and simple. anyone into video will tell you that. i even read an interview with Mr. Runco. If you don't know him, his company makes some of, if not the best projectors in the world for home and commercial use. He even states that there is no difference even on large screens unless you are practically sitting right in front of the screen. Save your money. If you have 720p or 1080i stick with it unless you need to upgrade. I think what some see as a better picture has nothing to do with 1080i vs. 1080p, but more to do with the technolgy in the monitors/projectors getting better. ex. sxrd, better dlp chips, etc. i have seen my set 1080i, playing next to a new version playing the exact same movie. no difference in picture quality, but the new set had slightly better blacks. this was due to sxrd, and not 1080p.ckyro1

If you sit at THX distance, there is more than a noticeable difference.  As famous as Runco is, that man is too old to be giving video advice like that.  If you haven't done an apples to apples comparison, I don't think you should be posting. 

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#20 babystapler
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The difference between 1080p and 720p isn't really noticeable on displays smaller than 42".

And in regards to the question you were getting at: If a game supports 1080p, it also supports 1080i and 720p, so you don't need to worry about it not working with your TV.

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#21 darknans
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Is there a blu-ray movie or a PS3 that can only plays at 1080p so.. if u only have 1080i... your movie or game will downscale to 720p?
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#22 Judonwanit
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Anything above standard is great.  Trust me, i went from a 15 inch sd sony tv from like 8 yrs ago lol...now ive got a sharp 37 inch...it does up to 1080i...basicaly im in love.
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#23 deadkingdg
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Eventually, most games on the PS3 will be in 1080p. But 1080p is still not a must. Games still look great in 720p.
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#24 DUDELYNN80
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I have a 53'' Panasonic HDTV that supports up to 1080i. It looks really great. I wouldn't play on anything smaller. I also have High definition cable and I think the picture on my games is better than the picture on my high def tv. You don't need 1080p, you need hdmi cable connection with good cables. Don't cut any corners with the cables, spend the money. They make a big difference with the quality of the picture. Whatever you do, don't use the cables they give you in the box.
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#25 ChubbyBiddy
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NO.
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#26 UNSEEN_ASSASSIN
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My tv does support 1080p but the difference between that and 1080i is not able to be seen by the human eye. So no it is not a must (1080p tvs are also insanely expansive mine was $3000)
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#27 ckyro1
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I have done an apples to apples comparisons, and like Mr. Runco stated unless you are sitting a foot from the screen you will not be able to tell difference. I worked for a high end AV retailer previously, so I stop by often  to visit my friends. My buddy was trying to sell one of my old customers a Pioneer Elite Plasma 1080P. Problem was, there was the previous 1080i model right next to it on the wall. He hooked a bluray player to both models playing Corpse Bride, and and HD DVD playing King King and Matrix Revolutions. There was NO noticeable difference. The guy ended up buying the 1080p model just because my buddy discounted it almost to the older model price. Just for argument sake, we later ran the same test with 2 projectors. One was 720p the other 1080p. Using a Dalite 110'' screen. Same result with blueray and hd dvd. There was a slight difference with king kong, but this was from standing a couple of feet away, which would not be normal viewing distance. So take your THX viewing crap and shove.....i digress. again you need not think that you have to have 1080p.
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#28 params7
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If you want to know Next-Generation gaming in true High Definition, you can only do with an LCD HDTV at 720p or above. Plain and simple.
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#29 coolcon2000
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I actullt have a question. Is it better to get a HD PC Monitor with a HDMI input so I can plug my PS3 into my PC monitor and plug my PC into the HD monitor as well. They seem to be cheaper then HD TVS.
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#30 Trek5200
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Not a MUST but.....a freakishly cool guilty pleasure for sure!!  I have never spoiled myself with anything this cool before unless you count all the bicycles I have blown thousands on!!(hence the name Trek5200)  My set-up is in my images if you want to see 1080P.  I don't know if I could see the difference between 720P and 1080P but it feels nice saying I have 1080P....shallow I know but I was playing on a 26" SD with blown speakers for the last 2 years so get off me!! :twisted:
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#31 The_Dark_Jester
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Honestly I just purchased a 32" LCD 1080i tv and going from my 20 year old 27" sdtv, it was amazing! I fell in love and movies and games have never looked better. I also picked up an HDMI cable for $3 which was a lot cheaper than my monster cables, which delivered the same picture quality only at a fraction of the cost. Seriously 1080i or 720p will be more than enough!
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#32 dubbleduecer
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Anyone WITH 1080p will say YES, Some people with 720p will say yes and the other 720p people that say no are just trying to make themselves feel better.
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#33 04JETTA
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maybe some day but i have 1080i/720p/480p/480i and it works fine for me
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#34 ajames_123
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If you have the cash go for it, if you dont then dun worry 720p/1080i will be fine.
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#35 ukbert
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I went out and bought a Samsung 40" 1080p and i have to say it looks amazing...but i partly spent the money as a bit of future proofing as im anticipating most of the games in the future to be in 1080p...also blu-ray looks very good...

 

But you certainly dont NEED 1080p...the difference between that and 1080i or 720 is probably minimal...but my previous tv wasnt even in HD so the difference to me was like night and day!!...

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#36 Dogmatic923
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The tv i have bought does not support 1080p and the guy told me that tv  i purchased has a game mode specifically for playing games, though it only supports 1080i. I just have one question, is there a game that supports or will support 1080p in the near future? Thank's alot .UchihaAmetarasu
first i read a cnet report that claimed that the gamining mode for tvs does not make a noticalbe difference. It claims its not worth the extra money. Second, I would have the 1080p to take advantage of the blueray movies. I hear the games have a small difference
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#37 TimothyB
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You guys are making this confusing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are no 720p/1080i tv that can actually show both at that except rare CRTS, its one or the other, you don't get to see both besides support. One guy says 32inch LCD 1080i tv, there are no 1080i LCDs, they all except upto 1080i, but they are all progressive, so it's either 720p, often exactly 768p or 1080p.

Just because the tv says it supports 720p and 1080i doesn't mean it can actually show 1080i, or 720p for that matter. The only tvs that can show full 1080i are CRT interlaced tvs or a 1080p tv, otherwise it will be converted "DOWN" to the native 720p to 768p resolution of most non-1080p progressive screens.

Honestly, this forum keeps mixing this up. You are kind of wasting time trying to figure out if 1080i or 720p looks better when you uknowingly have only a 720-768p resoltuion. There's resolution and what the screen can show, and then their's support to make it more compatible with all inputs. Tell me how you think a 32inch LCD that's not 1080p, meaning it can have 1366*768 as the highest resolution, actually show 1080i that needs1920*1080 when display progressivly? Basically if your LCD can show 1080i with all lines resolved then it's a 1080p tv.

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#38 hagiiiiiiiiii
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You just confused me even more...
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#39 cmpepper23
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You guys are making this confusing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are no 720p/1080i tv that can actually show both at that except rare CRTS, its one or the other, you don't get to see both besides support. One guy says 32inch LCD 1080i tv, there are no 1080i LCDs, they all except upto 1080i, but they are all progressive, so it's either 720p, often exactly 768p or 1080p.

Just because the tv says it supports 720p and 1080i doesn't mean it can actually show 1080i, or 720p for that matter. The only tvs that can show full 1080i are CRT interlaced tvs or a 1080p tv, otherwise it will be converted "DOWN" to the native 720p to 768p resolution of most non-1080p progressive screens.

Honestly, this forum keeps mixing this up. You are kind of wasting time trying to figure out if 1080i or 720p looks better when you uknowingly have only a 720-768p resoltuion. There's resolution and what the screen can show, and then their's support to make it more compatible with all inputs. Tell me how you think a 32inch LCD that's not 1080p, meaning it can have 1366*768 as the highest resolution, actually show 1080i that needs1920*1080 when display progressivly? Basically if your LCD can show 1080i with all lines resolved then it's a 1080p tv.

TimothyB

I have 2 TVs that have a resolution of 1024 *768. When i go to the display settings of my PS3, both TVs are able to support 1080p. Is this really 1080p or is it just upscaled or what? 

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#40 skyvader
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So Sony is basically just using the resolution of 1080p as pure marketing? They call it "full hd" when in fact 1080 (i/p) really is as full as it gets. Unless there is a higher res (i think there is) just around the corner for tv's in the next 2-3 years.
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#41 BackFlip101
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In my opinion 1080p is a jip. Pop in a bluray movie in 1080i and you'll see what im talkin about
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#42 TimothyB
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I have 2 TVs that have a resolution of 1024 *768. When i go to the display settings of my PS3, both TVs are able to support 1080p. Is this really 1080p or is it just upscaled or what?

cmpepper23

1080p stands for 1920*1080, so no, your tv can't really show 1080p. If it's accepting 1080p then it's downscaling it to 1024*768. I'm guessing you have 42inch Plasmas, as that's a resolution they often have, otherwise I hope you don't have some non-widescreen 15inch HDTVs. Also, 720p stands for 1280*720, so 1024*768 still can't effectively show 720p at all it's glory. 

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#43 TimothyB
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In my opinion 1080p is a jip. Pop in a bluray movie in 1080i and you'll see what im talkin aboutBackFlip101

 

What are you talking about then? Not many people have 1080i tvs. And 1080i basically has the same information as 1080p at 30fps. Good for movies, but full 1080p can be 60fps. And any good 1080p tv can accept 1080i and convert it back to 1080p. Only other tv that can show 1080i are CRT tvs.

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so far i can only think of one game that will run in full 1080p and thats ninja giden. most games only run at about 720p sio your cooljackle2071

 

Ninja Gaiden only runs at 720P 

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#45 TimothyB
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You just confused me even more...hagiiiiiiiiii

 

Look at it this way.

720p stands for a resolution of 1280*720 (pixels across and pixels down) The P stands for progressive, means it draws the lines all in one pass.

1080i stands for 1920*1080 but it's interlaced,  so it does odd lines first, then the even lines right after. So 540 lines at once, but shown twice as fast to give the illusion of a full 1080 image. Only CRT tube tvs do this, like how SD tvs are 480i. This limits your frames per second to 30fps.

1080p. 1920*1080 and draws every line at once and can do 60 full frames per second.

Now then ask yourself what pixel resolution your tv has and you'll know what it can display.

If a 32inch LCD has say a resolution of 1366*768, it can display 720p (1280*720) and slightly higher, but no way can it fully show 1080i even though it supports it since how do you fit 1920*1080 into 1366*768 and still call it 1080i? People get confused into thinking their tv can show that when it can't.

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#46 TimothyB
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[QUOTE="jackle2071"]so far i can only think of one game that will run in full 1080p and thats ninja giden. most games only run at about 720p sio your coolLiquid-Prince

 

Ninja Gaiden only runs at 720P

The PS3 demo of Ninja Gaiden runs at 1080p 60fps. Then there's Full Auto 2, that Tennis Demo, and other games. 

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#47 cmpepper23
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[QUOTE="cmpepper23"]

I have 2 TVs that have a resolution of 1024 *768. When i go to the display settings of my PS3, both TVs are able to support 1080p. Is this really 1080p or is it just upscaled or what?

TimothyB

1080p stands for 1920*1080, so no, your tv can't really show 1080p. If it's accepting 1080p then it's downscaling it to 1024*768. I'm guessing you have 42inch Plasmas, as that's a resolution they often have, otherwise I hope you don't have some non-widescreen 15inch HDTVs. Also, 720p stands for 1280*720, so 1024*768 still can't effectively show 720p at all it's glory.

One is a 42in Plasma and one is 32in LCD. You must really know your sh**. My other TV is a 42in DLP and it does 720p.

I have one more question. With the new update it has that 24fps or 24 hz thing, do all 1080p TVs do that or is this something new that I should wait for before upgrading to a 1080p TV?

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#48 TimothyB
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[QUOTE="TimothyB"][QUOTE="cmpepper23"]

I have 2 TVs that have a resolution of 1024 *768. When i go to the display settings of my PS3, both TVs are able to support 1080p. Is this really 1080p or is it just upscaled or what?

cmpepper23

1080p stands for 1920*1080, so no, your tv can't really show 1080p. If it's accepting 1080p then it's downscaling it to 1024*768. I'm guessing you have 42inch Plasmas, as that's a resolution they often have, otherwise I hope you don't have some non-widescreen 15inch HDTVs. Also, 720p stands for 1280*720, so 1024*768 still can't effectively show 720p at all it's glory.

One is a 42in Plasma and one is 32in LCD. You must really know your sh**. My other TV is a 42in DLP and it does 720p.

I have one more question. With the new update it has that 24fps or 24 hz thing, do all 1080p TVs do that or is this something new that I should wait for before upgrading to a 1080p TV?

Most all 1080p tvs display 60hz. There might be some rare ones out there that could display at 24hz. Then there are some that accept 24hz, but just convert it to 60hz, defeating the purpose. As you can imagine, converting 24fps to 30fps doesn't work out smoothly since you have to duplicate the frames unevenly, creating what they call a jitter that's noticeable to some in slow pans. The conversion is call 2:3 pulldown. Most all HD players for HD-DVD and Blu-ray that output 1080p60 first convert the 1080p24 off the disc to 1080i60, then convert that to 1080p60.

If you choose to wait, most new 1080p models near the end of the year will be new 120hz tvs. What's great about 120hz besides a sharper picture with faster motion, is that 24fps can be divded into it evenly 5 times. So if the tv accepts 24hz 1080p it can duplicate it evenly to 120hz for a smoother picture. Sony has a new a3000 series that might be out in two months that replaces the a2020 series. I think Mitsubishi's new 833 diamond series DLP are 120hz, but it's real expensive being their high end model.

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#49 EMERlCa6969
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No. Most developers are making there games at 720p. Also color and contrast are probably more important to your eye than 1080p. That only makes the image clearer, not more vibrant.

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#50 GnR-SLaSh
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I swear I just cannot see THAT much of a difference between 1080i & 1080p... =S

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