Is DMC4 even close to as much of a challenge as DMC3?

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#1 HunidRacks
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I just started yesterday, I got to Mission 4 so far on the second difficulty (the hardest I could choose at the moment). Is this difficulty going to even be any of a challenge? I don't like easy games and I heard DMC3 was ridiculously hard but is this as hard on the first 2 difficulties? Or any at all?
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#2 FuaTokoFau
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I loved DMC 1! Why is it that i only hear of DMC 3 and 4? What happened to 2? Do i have to play 2 and 3 to follow up on the story in 4?
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#3 X_CAPCOM_X
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They made DMC4 a lot easier.
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#4 HunidRacks
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How easier. I mean I never played the third one and all I would ever hear is how impossibly difficult it was. So alot easier does that mean that it's atleast hard? I heard it has a Dante Must Die mode where u have to beat the whole game without getting hit once cuz everything dies in 1 hit but so do you. (besides Bosses I imagine) That sounds pretty hard lol. But the Demon Hunter difficulty is that atleast a challenge? Is it easier or harder than ninja gaiden sigma?
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DMC2 was a very dissappointing game to many of the fans and was soooo easy. I just recently played the first three games believe that number 2 is a bit disappointing in ways but not as bad as what everyone says.

You do know the timeline right, DMC3->DMC1->DMC4->DMC2, so number 2 isn't that neccesary in the story line.

DMC4 is alot easier than 3, thats because i found 3 ridicolously hard.

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#6 Rock-City
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DMC4's actually pretty soft when compared to the 3rd. The game's Devil Hunter mode is basically just a normal difficulty. You've got no hard difficulty from the outset, which imo sucks a lot of a**. I didn't really start getting hit 'til around mission 9; I played with enemies for the most part. Also, DMC3 just seemed to have more aggressive basic enemy types... I like the game, but it's far from my fav in the series. I also like 3's bosses better.
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I have a terribly short attention span with games, unless they are online. So I don't even know if I'll make it to the end the first time around let alone play through it multiple times just to get a challenge. Shame, we'll have to see. They are starting to mix up monster a bit now, got some ice dudes along with now jumping joker guys so I get hit a bit here and there but nothing life threatening unfortunately. We'll see how it pans out. Maybe I've just been playing too much Ninja Gaiden to think this will be hard... Well atleast you cant block in DMC4 so that will atleast make that harder.
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#8 Rock-City
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You can block, just not with Nero. And while DMC4's not a bad game, it certainly isn't one of the best. I literally fell asleep while playing the forest part. It's a damn shame you've got to unlock a harder difficulty just to get a damn challenge, 'cause scrubs whined their ***** off during DMC3, they nutered the 4th game. I still love me some DMC3 (the original DMC3) and 1 though. As far as 4 goes, I've already turned my attention to Ninja Gaiden 2.
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You can block, just not with Nero. And while DMC4's not a bad game, it certainly isn't one of the best. I literally fell asleep while playing the forest part. It's a damn shame you've got to unlock a harder difficulty just to get a damn challenge, 'cause scrubs whined their ***** off during DMC3, they nutered the 4th game. I still love me some DMC3 (the original DMC3) and 1 though. As far as 4 goes, I've already turned my attention to Ninja Gaiden 2.Rock-City
ninja gaiden is just like DMC people don't belive be thought
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They made DMC4 a lot easier.X_CAPCOM_X

really? i guess i'll have to play it then. i didn't like how hard DMC3 was, thats why i got the SE version.

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[QUOTE="Rock-City"]You can block, just not with Nero. And while DMC4's not a bad game, it certainly isn't one of the best. I literally fell asleep while playing the forest part. It's a damn shame you've got to unlock a harder difficulty just to get a damn challenge, 'cause scrubs whined their ***** off during DMC3, they nutered the 4th game. I still love me some DMC3 (the original DMC3) and 1 though. As far as 4 goes, I've already turned my attention to Ninja Gaiden 2.KCKING23
ninja gaiden is just like DMC people don't belive be thought

Yeah, God of War is just like both of those. GoW is better than both of those, so that's the one I'm waiting for. Although, no telling when it will be out.

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[QUOTE="KCKING23"][QUOTE="Rock-City"]You can block, just not with Nero. And while DMC4's not a bad game, it certainly isn't one of the best. I literally fell asleep while playing the forest part. It's a damn shame you've got to unlock a harder difficulty just to get a damn challenge, 'cause scrubs whined their ***** off during DMC3, they nutered the 4th game. I still love me some DMC3 (the original DMC3) and 1 though. As far as 4 goes, I've already turned my attention to Ninja Gaiden 2.MyzeDivine

ninja gaiden is just like DMC people don't belive be thought

Yeah, God of War is just like both of those. GoW is better than both of those, so that's the one I'm waiting for. Although, no telling when it will be out.

God of War is cold but it's nothing like thoses it seem to compare with hevenly shword
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#13 KCKING23
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[QUOTE="MyzeDivine"]

[QUOTE="KCKING23"][QUOTE="Rock-City"]You can block, just not with Nero. And while DMC4's not a bad game, it certainly isn't one of the best. I literally fell asleep while playing the forest part. It's a damn shame you've got to unlock a harder difficulty just to get a damn challenge, 'cause scrubs whined their ***** off during DMC3, they nutered the 4th game. I still love me some DMC3 (the original DMC3) and 1 though. As far as 4 goes, I've already turned my attention to Ninja Gaiden 2.KCKING23

ninja gaiden is just like DMC people don't belive be thought

Yeah, God of War is just like both of those. GoW is better than both of those, so that's the one I'm waiting for. Although, no telling when it will be out.

God of War is cold but it's nothing like thoses it seem to compare with hevenly shword

i spelled some words worng sorry
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I loved DMC 1! Why is it that i only hear of DMC 3 and 4? What happened to 2? Do i have to play 2 and 3 to follow up on the story in 4?FuaTokoFau

Devil May Cry 2 is a total abomination compared to the first, and certainly 3. You can usually pick it up for a few bucks if you really want to play it, but you won't miss anything. Capcom messed with the formula, and lost.

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[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]They made DMC4 a lot easier.americahellyeah

really? i guess i'll have to play it then. i didn't like how hard DMC3 was, thats why i got the SE version.



what made the SE edition easier? Sorry I just havent followed these games too much
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[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]They made DMC4 a lot easier.smeags11

really? i guess i'll have to play it then. i didn't like how hard DMC3 was, thats why i got the SE version.



what made the SE edition easier? Sorry I just havent followed these games too much

They actually start you on the Normal difficulty for one thing. The game also gives you the option to have a checkpoint system with and provide Gold orbs that revive you instantly when you die. There's still a big challenge in the game, and the Gold orb system can reduce the amount of frustration you might get playing through your first time.

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[QUOTE="KCKING23"][QUOTE="Rock-City"]You can block, just not with Nero. And while DMC4's not a bad game, it certainly isn't one of the best. I literally fell asleep while playing the forest part. It's a damn shame you've got to unlock a harder difficulty just to get a damn challenge, 'cause scrubs whined their ***** off during DMC3, they nutered the 4th game. I still love me some DMC3 (the original DMC3) and 1 though. As far as 4 goes, I've already turned my attention to Ninja Gaiden 2.MyzeDivine

ninja gaiden is just like DMC people don't belive be thought

Yeah, God of War is just like both of those. GoW is better than both of those, so that's the one I'm waiting for. Although, no telling when it will be out.

GOW is better in your opinion, sure as hell not in mine. To me, GOW is the weakest most noob friendly of the bunch. Talk about being easy. GOW is a button masher through and through, and even though DMC4 is way more lenient on mashers than 3 was, GOW is still a masher to a even bigger extent with its emphasis on stringing together 10 hit canned combos and magic. NG plays nothing like DMC and sure as hell plays nothing like GOW. NG and DMC games offer you a superior combat engine with more versatility in contrast to GOW. The most basic of enemies in NG would kick your ass on a standard difficulty if you mashed on them. NG and DMC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOW.

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come tell us how hard it is when you play DMD mode...
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i started on human mode and am also on level 4 or 5 and i probably could have beat it with just my feet using the controls. I just about mastered dmc3 and that might be it but i do have to say it's easier than 3 but still fun as hell.
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#20 truenextgen
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Not sure, never played 3. But speaking of which. I may go play 4 some more now.
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#21 SOedipus
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I'm on Devil Hunter and I find it kind of easy. I died on some bosses, but it's easier to learn their moves than on DMC or DMC3. DMC2 was just a joke and I thought the first DMC was the hardest, never even beaten it yet, won't let me play it on easy:evil:
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I have a terribly short attention span with games, unless they are online. So I don't even know if I'll make it to the end the first time around let alone play through it multiple times just to get a challenge. Shame, we'll have to see. They are starting to mix up monster a bit now, got some ice dudes along with now jumping joker guys so I get hit a bit here and there but nothing life threatening unfortunately. We'll see how it pans out. Maybe I've just been playing too much Ninja Gaiden to think this will be hard... Well atleast you cant block in DMC4 so that will atleast make that harder.HunidRacks


DMC 3 first edition made Ninja Gaiden look like a joke to me. The first boss was insanely difficult. DMC3 medium is I think DMC4 hard. If you want to get the DMC3 difficulty challenge from DMC 4 you have to play Dante must Die mode.
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Ak, that could be a problem... This means a veteran like me who's played the original DMC and DMC3 in Dante Must Die Mode will find this game a pushover until the two extra legendary modes beyond Dante Must Die? o.O

Which in turn also means I will need to play the game at least "twice" (first time for hardest difficulty available upon first playthrough, and then hard mode after that) for the game to be even remotely challenging?

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[QUOTE="MyzeDivine"]

[QUOTE="KCKING23"][QUOTE="Rock-City"]You can block, just not with Nero. And while DMC4's not a bad game, it certainly isn't one of the best. I literally fell asleep while playing the forest part. It's a damn shame you've got to unlock a harder difficulty just to get a damn challenge, 'cause scrubs whined their ***** off during DMC3, they nutered the 4th game. I still love me some DMC3 (the original DMC3) and 1 though. As far as 4 goes, I've already turned my attention to Ninja Gaiden 2.Rock-City

ninja gaiden is just like DMC people don't belive be thought

Yeah, God of War is just like both of those. GoW is better than both of those, so that's the one I'm waiting for. Although, no telling when it will be out.

GOW is better in your opinion, sure as hell not in mine. To me, GOW is the weakest most noob friendly of the bunch. Talk about being easy. GOW is a button masher through and through, and even though DMC4 is way more lenient on mashers than 3 was, GOW is still a masher to a even bigger extent with its emphasis on stringing together 10 hit canned combos and magic. NG plays nothing like DMC and sure as hell plays nothing like GOW. NG and DMC games offer you a superior combat engine with more versatility in contrast to GOW. The most basic of enemies in NG would kick your ass on a standard difficulty if you mashed on them. NG and DMC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOW.

Sheesh, get defensive much? GoW2 on titan mode is harder than NGS (maybe about equal on hard mode), but less difficult than DMC3 on hardest setting. If you try and button mash on Titan, you will never get anywhere. I never said any of the games were bad. I loved DMC 1 and 3, and NGS, and as you can tell, GOW 1 and 2. I just think GoW is a better series. I don't need a game to be stupidly hard (DMC3 on Dante Must Die) to be fun. A good story will ALWAYS be the most important thing to me in a game, unless I'm playing a sports or racing game. Unlike DMC3 and NG, GoW offers easier play for the "noobs," as you put it, and harder play for the more hardcore, which is the way it should be. Also, btw, DMC4 isn't all that hard, at least not on hard.

I enjoy a challenge, but it's not my #1 priority. I'm guessing you are one of those types of people that can't enjoy R&C F: TOD.

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[QUOTE="Rock-City"][QUOTE="MyzeDivine"]

[QUOTE="KCKING23"][QUOTE="Rock-City"]You can block, just not with Nero. And while DMC4's not a bad game, it certainly isn't one of the best. I literally fell asleep while playing the forest part. It's a damn shame you've got to unlock a harder difficulty just to get a damn challenge, 'cause scrubs whined their ***** off during DMC3, they nutered the 4th game. I still love me some DMC3 (the original DMC3) and 1 though. As far as 4 goes, I've already turned my attention to Ninja Gaiden 2.MyzeDivine

ninja gaiden is just like DMC people don't belive be thought

Yeah, God of War is just like both of those. GoW is better than both of those, so that's the one I'm waiting for. Although, no telling when it will be out.

GOW is better in your opinion, sure as hell not in mine. To me, GOW is the weakest most noob friendly of the bunch. Talk about being easy. GOW is a button masher through and through, and even though DMC4 is way more lenient on mashers than 3 was, GOW is still a masher to a even bigger extent with its emphasis on stringing together 10 hit canned combos and magic. NG plays nothing like DMC and sure as hell plays nothing like GOW. NG and DMC games offer you a superior combat engine with more versatility in contrast to GOW. The most basic of enemies in NG would kick your ass on a standard difficulty if you mashed on them. NG and DMC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOW.

Sheesh, get defensive much? GoW2 on titan mode is harder than NGS (maybe about equal on hard mode), but less difficult than DMC3 on hardest setting. If you try and button mash on Titan, you will never get anywhere. I never said any of the games were bad. I loved DMC 1 and 3, and NGS, and as you can tell, GOW 1 and 2. I just think GoW is a better series. I don't need a game to be stupidly hard (DMC3 on Dante Must Die) to be fun. A good story will ALWAYS be the most important thing to me in a game, unless I'm playing a sports or racing game. Unlike DMC3 and NG, GoW offers easier play for the "noobs," as you put it, and harder play for the more hardcore, which is the way it should be. Also, btw, DMC4 isn't all that hard, at least not on hard.

I enjoy a challenge, but it's not my #1 priority. I'm guessing you are one of those types of people that can't enjoy R&C F: TOD.

That's funny, 'cause I find the original DMC3 (not DMC3 SE) and NG's normal difficulties to be just as challenging as GOW's titan modes. You get hit much harder in titan mode, and that's it. The enemies you fight are still prone to the same basic mixed combos you can own them with on lower difficulties. The AI for the enemy is still garbage. You wanna see a smart enemy AI? You pay attention how the enemies fight you in NG.

And a good story to me is a distant 2nd to gameplay. If all their was to judge a game by was story, GOW would be ahead of the pack easily. But the gameplay is just so shallow and uninteresting that it really isn't worth my time to seriously invest. It tries to trick the gamer into thinking that super combo inflation and violent finishing moves = a robust fighting engine.

I know DMC4 ain't hard (never said it was)...I've been saying it's easy all along. That's just one reason why I think the original DMC3 owns it. I'm not one for replaying games over and over just so I can find a difficulty that suits me. I want a difficulty that's just right for me from the get go. DMC1's default for me was perfect for a new, unfamiliar franchise. By the time of the original DMC3's release, I was very comfortable with the DMC mechanics, and had an easier transition into that game. Now with 4 not having harder difficulties available at start, it was boring going through it and hardly being challenged. Truthfully, I don't even want to play DMC4 again on any difficulty due to the lackluster, mostly docile feeling I had the first time...it being so easy spoiled it for me. Plus now, I know all the enemy attack patterns...so there goes the element of surprise. At the same time, I understand why Capcom toned down the initial difficulty and the only reason that DMC3 SE even exist: to appease those who were regularly getting their crying asses handed to them in DMC3.

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DMC4 is pretty easy but super fun lol
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I could not beat Dante without spamming the arm on top of the thing on Demon Hunter. Just wouldn't happen. Had been kicking *ss up until that point.
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I hadn't played the first three DMC games, and ended up picking this one up at the recommendation of my cousin and liking the demo... so I can't compare it to the other titles, but I can say that so far, it's not very difficult. It's certainly not Ninja Gaiden Sigma, anyway.