is it possable for the ps3 hardware to ever support ingame xmb?

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#1 d_ano
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we have been going on for so long about it and now it isnt here. is it possable to do it?

i read somewhere that sony are telling us that they are working on it but the ps3's ram is set out in such a way that it will never be possable to achieve it, is it true?

if it is true would it be possable for sony to just add message box the the list of options when you press the ps button? rather than pull up the whole xmb (from what i hear whould make the system crawl) could they not just have the option under quit game etc. on the black screen? this wouldnt involve loading up the xmb and it is pretty much the same as running music through the game (which the ps3 can support but hasne been used yet) except a message would take up so little ram.

im not bothered about music anymore buyt with all the great online games coming out and friends lists growing i think it might become important to do this. any chance of it?

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#2 casey7672
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Easily! Sony just has to create it.
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#3 BlueShine
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Easily! Sony just has to create it.casey7672

Yup, it is very easy. The way they hyped PS3's power, it has no choice. It better be able to do it.

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#4 munsoned
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i think sony wants to get home out first and see how this feature would effect it. both will be major updates so there will be alot of testing be4 they are released
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#5 d_ano
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but can it be done?
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#6 casey7672
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Simple, hit a button start, select, or PS. It brings up the option to bring up the XMB.
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#7 Jamie_1987
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if it does happen I dont think we will see it for a long time, there just isnt enough ram memory
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What do you actually want from an in-game XMB?
The ability to view pictures in-game?
This is a stupid idea and im guessing no.

The ability to listen to your own music in-game?
Most games have fantastic scores and brilliant sounds, after a while you'll get fed up and you'll be listening to the regular music after a couple of plays. I have my PC right next to my PS3 using the same monitor, I've listened to music from my PC whilst playing games via PS3 (turning music down in-game) and I find that after a half hour or so I'd much rather listen to the music that was written and designed for the game in the first place than listen to random music that doesn't really suit, also the music often clashes with the sound effects of the game, it simply doesn't sound as good,

If you want your own music in-game it should be a part of the game itself. Some games could, and do benefit from this greatly, GTA on the Xbox w/ the ability to play your own music was a brilliant feature and would defiantly be something I'd like to see in a game like Ridge Racer for example, but a FW update isn't needed for this.

In-game Friends List?
Granted, most (all?) on-line games on the PS3 atm don't have easy methods to join up with your friends, so with this feature I could see a benefit, but with the release of home is this really needed?

The inability to read private messages you have been sent when playing a game, yet still getting notified of it (yeah as if im going to close the game just to read it) is, well, pretty awful, a feature that could easily go un-noticed if it were removed.

I'd love a feature to read private messages sent to you in-game, maybe even a bunch of chat windows, even/especially with the release of home, but is this really an in-game XMB? No, it's just the ability to read private messages in game.

Maybe if people stopped asking for in-game XMB (which is the entire bar on your PS3 start-up if you're wondering) and started asking for things like "In-game private messages" Sony can actually put some time & effort into developing it, rather than wasting time trying to figure out what people really want.

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What do you actually want from an in-game XMB?
The ability to view pictures in-game?
This is a stupid idea and im guessing no.
The ability to listen to your own music in-game?
Most games have fantastic scores and brilliant sounds, after a while you'll get fed up and you'll be listening to the regular music after a couple of plays. I have my PC right next to my PS3 using the same monitor and have listened to music from my PC whilst playing games (turning music down in-game) and after a half hour or so I'd much rather listen to the music that was written and designed for the game in the first place, also the music often clashes with the sound effects. If you want your own music in-game it should be a part of the game itself. Some games could, and do benefit from this greatly, GTA on the Xbox w/ the ability to play your own music was a brilliant feature and would defiantly be something I'd like to see in a game like Ridge Racer for example, but a FW update isn't needed for this.
In-game Friends List?
Granted, most (all?) on-line games on the PS3 atm don't have easy methods to join up with your friends, so with this feature I could see a benefit, but with the release of home is this really needed?

The inability to read private messages you have been sent when playing a game, yet still getting notified of it (yeah as if im going to close the game just to read it) is, well, pretty awful, a feature that could easily go un-noticed if it were removed.

I'd love a feature to read private messages sent to you in-game, maybe even a bunch of chat windows, even/especially with the release of home, but is this really an in-game XMB? No, it's just the ability to read private messages in game.

Maybe if people stopped asking for in-game XMB (which is the entire bar on your PS3 start-up if you're wondering) and started asking for things like "In-game private messages" Sony can actually put some time & effort into developing it, rather than wasting time trying to figure out what people really want.

moshakirby

no most people just want to be able to send messages and game invites using in game xmb

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#10 cjbieva
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Loco Heads it will happen...
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Mamma will be HOME soon enough lol
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#12 GARRYTH
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wiil you people stop about this ram crap when the ps 3 first came out it was using 64 of ram used upnow it is using 32. so if they can go to 64 to 32 they can go to say 24 then bam you got your xml. not anuff ram what if it just channals the music and game through one of the sprees because if nauty dog can us the cell to make up some of the ram with animations ect. im sure sony can have music go through it.

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#13 Please_ThankYou
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The only other options available through the XMB that people might wantto have access to in-game aren't feasible. Changes to sound or resolution settings will always require that affected applications be restarted.

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#14 deadkingdg
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Duh, when on pause, a game use much less ressources. I can understand that some features would be locked, like watching a blu-ray movie when playing a downloadable game, but the PS3 could handle reading your messages easily when on pause.
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#15 d_ano
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is anyone going to answer my question?
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#16 AskForDetails
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we have been going on for so long about it and now it isnt here. is it possable to do it?

i read somewhere that sony are telling us that they are working on it but the ps3's ram is set out in such a way that it will never be possable to achieve it, is it true?

if it is true would it be possable for sony to just add message box the the list of options when you press the ps button? rather than pull up the whole xmb (from what i hear whould make the system crawl) could they not just have the option under quit game etc. on the black screen? this wouldnt involve loading up the xmb and it is pretty much the same as running music through the game (which the ps3 can support but hasne been used yet) except a message would take up so little ram.

im not bothered about music anymore buyt with all the great online games coming out and friends lists growing i think it might become important to do this. any chance of it?

d_ano

lol yes and its was already done... lol the reason ppl want in game XMB is bcz sony showed it in one of there early PS3- demos...

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#17 truenextgen
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Ok, this may sound stupid. But could some of that be due to the 40 also?
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#18 rogerjak
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Of course it can't be done.

BTW, d_ano you are kinda obsessed with this in game XMB access thing :?

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#19 2beers_in_hand
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Of course it is possible, you can already message a friend while watching game trailers. In game messaging will happen, hopefully sooner then later.