Is Metal Gear Solid 4 a worthy candidate as best game ever?

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#1 ZiggyStardust16
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If you consider all its aspect, such as graphic, music, gameplay, presentation, level of polish etc, is it a worthy candidate as the best game ever made?

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#2 MonkeySpot
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If you consider all its aspect, such as graphic, music, gameplay, presentation, level of polish etc, is it a worthy candidate as the best game ever made?

ZiggyStardust16

Hell. No.

I love the series, don't get me wrong, but the game is far from perfect. FAR.

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#3 Essian
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I would say it is a contender for best game on the PS3, but a nonsensical story (I mean come on, it may be interesting, but a lot of it makes NO sense), and a lack of actual GAMEPLAY (the whole thing can be beaten in less than 5 hours) means that it is far from the best game ever. However, the title of "best game ever" really falls to each individual to decide. For me personally, it's Final Fantasy X (though right now I am playing Ocarina of Time, and it is giving FFX a run for its money), though many would disagree with me. If you think it's the best game ever, that's all that really matters.
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Absolutely not. It's not even the best in the franchise but definitely a great game and one of the best on PS3.

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#5 deactivated-5e5d7e6d61227
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No ... It is a good game, but far from "best game ever." Like previous comments have stated, there are good things about the game and there are bad things about the game. The story is good, the graphics are good, the gameplay is good. Overall, there are problems with the game just like any other game. Don't get me wrong, I loved MGS4 when I played it but like everyone else, I moved on. lol!

If you consider all its aspect, such as graphic, music, gameplay, presentation, level of polish etc, is it a worthy candidate as the best game ever made?

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#6 Am_Confucius
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How could it be, when MGS3 is better?

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#7 shaunchgo
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Easy. NO.
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#8 Jackc8
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If you like it that much then feel free to call it your favorite game of all time.

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#9 FamousVampire68
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No. The game had less game play than cinematics.
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#10 Renzokucant
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it is easily ONE OF THE best games ever... however best game ever cant be decided by the masses. it has to be a personal preferance/decision kinda thing
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#11 chaotzu
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How could it be, when MGS3 is better?

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#12 worlock77
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No. It's barely even a game. 30 minutes of cutscenes for every 5 minutes of gameplay.

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#13 WR_Platinum
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This is easy, an absolute YES. It has what many franchises lack, the total package.

The many who hate on the game are the same ones who love other games that act like movies like Uncharted for instance. Talk about double standards.

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#14 anime_gamer007
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That's a pretty subjective question but yes, I would consider MGS4 one of the best games ever made.
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No it is not. While I do think it is a great game, I do not think it is good enough for that title.
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#16 Naylord
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I think it is, but it seems to me that such a title is a very personal thing and can differ from person to person. I'd believe that no rational, reasonable person could call it a bad game though. Thus I think it can easily be a candidate for being understood as an amazing game.

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#17 SouL-Tak3R
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Definitely not. It was a good game but I wouldn't even put it in my top 10 list. Maybe top 20.

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#18 MAILER_DAEMON
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No way. As good as it is, there are other games in the series that are better.
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#19 Namgis
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On my list, yes. I loved every second of it.

But I know there are many that won't, and that's cool too.

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#20 jasonharris48
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No, it's not even a candidate for best MGS title

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#21 unrealtron
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Hmmm. No.
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#22 ocphon
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No, but MGS is. :D

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#23 worlock77
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This is easy, an absolute YES. It has what many franchises lack, the total package.

The many who hate on the game are the same ones who love other games that act like movies like Uncharted for instance. Talk about double standards.

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Sorry, but wrong. Unlike MGS4 the Uncharted series actually has more gameplay than cutscenes, and no cutscenes longer than a few minutes. Actually there's probably more total cutscene time in MGS4 then in the entire Uncharted series combined.

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#24 StealthMonkey4
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No, the story was awful and dragged on and on. MGS3 is way better.

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#25 PolygonBust
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Although I loved the game and series to death, I think it's in a much too niche category to be considered as a best game ever candidate (as subjective as that title sounds). One of the main disappointments I had with it was the incredibly short length in relation to the previous entries in the series. Story, gameplay, graphics, etc. was top notch though.

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#26 PolygonBust
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[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

This is easy, an absolute YES. It has what many franchises lack, the total package.

The many who hate on the game are the same ones who love other games that act like movies like Uncharted for instance. Talk about double standards.

worlock77

Sorry, but wrong. Unlike MGS4 the Uncharted series actually has more gameplay than cutscenes, and no cutscenes longer than a few minutes. Actually there's probably more total cutscene time in MGS4 then in the entire Uncharted series combined.

There is nothing wrong with having a lot of cutscenes in a game, especially when you have a story as deep and intricated as MGS. You can just skip them on other playthroughs anyway so it's not as big a deal as some people make it out to be. Uncharted is a cliche, bland, Gears of War mimic that does nothing new and is hyped to ****.

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#27 Chaos_Bladez
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I know this kind of thread will bring out the haters, but I think MGS4 should be in my personal opinion. I loved playing and watching it. I can't really point out a weak spot in the campaign. What really sends me over the edge is the ending parts. I felt so emotionally drained after I had powered through the last chapter. If a game can impact me like that after I'm done playing it, I'll always remember it keep it in high regards.
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#28 jasonharris48
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No, the story was awful and dragged on and on. MGS3 is way better.

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We have a winner! MGS3>Peace Walker>MGS>MGS2>MGs4=Portable Ops. I found the story to be weak in MGS4, and the awful pacing completely destroys the flow of gameplay.

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#29 Benny_Blakk
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I agree, that there can't really be a "best game ever made". That is far too opinionated to begin with! But I personally like MGS4, very much so. As well as Ocarina of Time. In fact, I liked Ocarina more than Guns of the Patriot because of its feel! I think the best we can do is list our personal favorites and thats that.
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#30 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="WR_Platinum"]

This is easy, an absolute YES. It has what many franchises lack, the total package.

The many who hate on the game are the same ones who love other games that act like movies like Uncharted for instance. Talk about double standards.

PolygonBust

Sorry, but wrong. Unlike MGS4 the Uncharted series actually has more gameplay than cutscenes, and no cutscenes longer than a few minutes. Actually there's probably more total cutscene time in MGS4 then in the entire Uncharted series combined.

There is nothing wrong with having a lot of cutscenes in a game, especially when you have a story as deep and intricated as MGS. You can just skip them on other playthroughs anyway so it's not as big a deal as some people make it out to be. Uncharted is a cliche, bland, Gears of War mimic that does nothing new and is hyped to ****.

There's nothing wrong with having a lot of cutscenes, no. But when those cutscenes go on for half an hour, and when they take up more of the game than the actual gameplay it's a problem. Kojima and crew seemed to have forgotten that they were making a game. Your statement about Uncharted is completely irrelevant to the point being discussed.

BTW: congratulations on inventing a new word with "intricated".

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If you consider all its aspect, such as graphic, music, gameplay, presentation, level of polish etc, is it a worthy candidate as the best game ever made?

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lawl no...big fan of the series...just bought the hd collection and have been playing thru them...but far from best game ever

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#32 PoisoN_Facecam0
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[QUOTE="ZiggyStardust16"]

If you consider all its aspect, such as graphic, music, gameplay, presentation, level of polish etc, is it a worthy candidate as the best game ever made?

MonkeySpot

Hell. No.

I love the series, don't get me wrong, but the game is far from perfect. FAR.

He never said "perfect" he said best game ever.. yes.. it would be a worthy candidate.. would it win. no. but it would be worthy of candidacy if there were some kind of vote..
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#33 HipHopBeats
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Definitely one of the best games I've played for PS3 despite the lenghty cutscenes.

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#34 cdragon_88
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No. You've got to play more games if you'd call MGS4 one of the best of all time. It wasn't even the best MGS.

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#35 H_M_1
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Best game ever for me from all the games I've ever played was MGS1 on PS1, MGS4 is second. Doesn't matter if an uncharted 4 or god of war 4 or any other blockbuster title comes out, my mind is always set.
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#36 Atladica
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I wont say if it is the best in the series but there are thousands of games you cant just pick one and say it is the best.

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#37 rawsavon
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Absolutely not. It's not even the best in the franchise but definitely a great game and one of the best on PS3.

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This is the EXACT thing I came in here to post. -great game -but not being best in its own series = out of consideration for best game ever
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#38 PurpleSmile
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Nope... its like a movie
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#39 mr_tommy_1986
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mgs 4 is a good game but not best game for ever. more then game is there... i comeback after 4 years to gamespot.
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#40 Chaos_Bladez
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Nope... its like a moviePurpleSmile
It's weird because I don't remember being handed a controller when I last saw an actual film. Sorry, but this argument is stupid. Yes it has cutscenes but that doesn't make a damn movie. Do the menus in DVDs make it a game? No it doesn't.
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#41 TheKoreanZombie
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Hell No.

MGS3>MGS4.

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#42 PurpleSmile
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[QUOTE="PurpleSmile"]Nope... its like a movieChaos_Bladez
It's weird because I don't remember being handed a controller when I last saw an actual film. Sorry, but this argument is stupid. Yes it has cutscenes but that doesn't make a damn movie. Do the menus in DVDs make it a game? No it doesn't.

its "LIKE" a movie. not A MOVIE.
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#43 Venom_Raptor
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From a technical standpoint MGS4 is outstanding, but I didn't enjoy it as much as most people did, and finally rated it 8.5/10. It was good, but nothing specialthat stands out to me to give it GOTY, yet alone best game ever.