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good question, but to be clearer... Is there a major visual difference or difference in sound? This is kind of hard to know because people usually dont own both cables. RJ2000_24
I don't have HDMI cables, but HISTORICALLY, I've found that the cheaper cables tend to have more audio interference than the more expensive cables. Don't know if that's the case with these, but it's been that way historically for me.Historically means analog cables and for that the post is correct. Audio cables, component cables, regular coax etc -- great post. For a digital cable, such as HDMI cable -- this is NOT correct. The HDMI -- get the cheap one don't trust Circuit city / best buy they don't sell the cheaper ones because they try to make more money.........
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MikeinSC2
Its true that the more expensive cables are thicker, they are thick because they have more wires inside for more colors and better sound. They do make a difference but i cant tell the diff. I have monster cable HDMI 600 series i bought on ebay for 40babenjorgeThey don't have more wires inside.... That is completely ignorant. all hdmi cables have the same amount of contacts on the end cnnections, hence the same amount of wires inside connecting one ends contacts to the others. They MAY have thicker wires, but not more. They make NO difference, except in your wallet.
actually not all HDMI cabels support 1080p if thats what you are looking for. i asked the people at circuit city and they helped me out. but you can read the package to let you know to but i just bought the monster cable that was made for the ps3 and does 1080pdalscowboys22They ALL support 1080P....
[QUOTE="dalscowboys22"]actually not all HDMI cabels support 1080p if thats what you are looking for. i asked the people at circuit city and they helped me out. but you can read the package to let you know to but i just bought the monster cable that was made for the ps3 and does 1080psnyper1982They ALL support 1080P.... yea they do, "dalscowboys22" you should probably go punch the person who told you that in the face. read up a little
[QUOTE="MikeinSC2"]I don't have HDMI cables, but HISTORICALLY, I've found that the cheaper cables tend to have more audio interference than the more expensive cables. Don't know if that's the case with these, but it's been that way historically for me.Historically means analog cables and for that the post is correct. Audio cables, component cables, regular coax etc -- great post. For a digital cable, such as HDMI cable -- this is NOT correct. The HDMI -- get the cheap one don't trust Circuit city / best buy they don't sell the cheaper ones because they try to make more money......... Cables really don't make a difference even in the analog domain. I have read MANY studies, as well as conducting my own testing, that have conducted ABX testing between expensive and cheap cables, and they nearly always come out the same, the participants cannot distinguish between the two. Now I will not say that there is no difference, but if you can't see the difference or hear the difference, then just how beneficial is it? To the people who claim they can see or hear a difference, I challenge you to some legitimate testing.
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svenskamerikan
[QUOTE="svenskamerikan"][QUOTE="MikeinSC2"]I don't have HDMI cables, but HISTORICALLY, I've found that the cheaper cables tend to have more audio interference than the more expensive cables. Don't know if that's the case with these, but it's been that way historically for me.Historically means analog cables and for that the post is correct. Audio cables, component cables, regular coax etc -- great post. For a digital cable, such as HDMI cable -- this is NOT correct. The HDMI -- get the cheap one don't trust Circuit city / best buy they don't sell the cheaper ones because they try to make more money......... Cables really don't make a difference even in the analog domain. I have read MANY studies, as well as conducting my own testing, that have conducted ABX testing between expensive and cheap cables, and they nearly always come out the same, the participants cannot distinguish between the two. Now I will not say that there is no difference, but if you can't see the difference or hear the difference, then just how beneficial is it? To the people who claim they can see or hear a difference, I challenge you to some legitimate testing. Well snyper we can argue this one for hours and many people have, but for the sake of this thread lets not. What affects people on this forum is the fact that get the cheapest HDMI cable that is the right lenght for you and you will be happy. No difference in regards to digital cables and all HDMI cables can do 1080p -- take back the Circuit City cables dude -- tell them that that is their cost for lying to you......
-=Mike
snyper1982
I've seen prices ranging from 40-110. This is obviously for the PS3 if that makes a difference.nayoopAbsolutely no different because its digital! It there going to work or not, unlike the old school analog signals where the video signal flows down the cable it made a huge different. That’s why gold was used since in conducts so well. But gold with digits is a complete joke and total marketing to steal your money. Don’t be a fool because that’s whats what there hoping you are!
[QUOTE="nayoop"]I've seen prices ranging from 40-110. This is obviously for the PS3 if that makes a difference.vip_kassAbsolutely no different because its digital! It there going to work or not, unlike the old school analog signals where the video signal flows down the cable it made a huge different. That’s why gold was used since in conducts so well. But gold with digits is a complete joke and total marketing to steal your money. Don’t be a fool because that’s whats what there hoping you are! most cables still use gold because it doesnt corrode, not so much that its the best conductor. not saying gold isnt a good conductor, but there is better conductors.
If you have the money go for a monster cable, they have a life time warranty, they NEVER wear out and if they do its replaced for free. Like a previous post said their sturdy, its near impossible to sever the cable. and they use the most conductive materials in the cable for the best signal and the image you see is only as good as the signal between whats sending the image and whats displaying the image, if you have a PS3 because its a graphics beast and you want to see that in your HDTV go for the best cable.GrayHaloThat doesn't make a ton of sense, you could literally buy 10-20 Monoprice cables for the same price as the Monster, is the warranty worth it? Buy 5 monoprice cables, and there's your lifetime warranty LOL and you still have tons of cash left over.
[QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="svenskamerikan"][QUOTE="MikeinSC2"]I don't have HDMI cables, but HISTORICALLY, I've found that the cheaper cables tend to have more audio interference than the more expensive cables. Don't know if that's the case with these, but it's been that way historically for me.Historically means analog cables and for that the post is correct. Audio cables, component cables, regular coax etc -- great post. For a digital cable, such as HDMI cable -- this is NOT correct. The HDMI -- get the cheap one don't trust Circuit city / best buy they don't sell the cheaper ones because they try to make more money......... Cables really don't make a difference even in the analog domain. I have read MANY studies, as well as conducting my own testing, that have conducted ABX testing between expensive and cheap cables, and they nearly always come out the same, the participants cannot distinguish between the two. Now I will not say that there is no difference, but if you can't see the difference or hear the difference, then just how beneficial is it? To the people who claim they can see or hear a difference, I challenge you to some legitimate testing. Well snyper we can argue this one for hours and many people have, but for the sake of this thread lets not. What affects people on this forum is the fact that get the cheapest HDMI cable that is the right lenght for you and you will be happy. No difference in regards to digital cables and all HDMI cables can do 1080p -- take back the Circuit City cables dude -- tell them that that is their cost for lying to you...... Agreed. That is far beyond the scope of this thread, and we are in agreement as far as this thread goes.
-=Mike
svenskamerikan
[QUOTE="svenskamerikan"][QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="svenskamerikan"][QUOTE="MikeinSC2"]I don't have HDMI cables, but HISTORICALLY, I've found that the cheaper cables tend to have more audio interference than the more expensive cables. Don't know if that's the case with these, but it's been that way historically for me.Historically means analog cables and for that the post is correct. Audio cables, component cables, regular coax etc -- great post. For a digital cable, such as HDMI cable -- this is NOT correct. The HDMI -- get the cheap one don't trust Circuit city / best buy they don't sell the cheaper ones because they try to make more money......... Cables really don't make a difference even in the analog domain. I have read MANY studies, as well as conducting my own testing, that have conducted ABX testing between expensive and cheap cables, and they nearly always come out the same, the participants cannot distinguish between the two. Now I will not say that there is no difference, but if you can't see the difference or hear the difference, then just how beneficial is it? To the people who claim they can see or hear a difference, I challenge you to some legitimate testing. Well snyper we can argue this one for hours and many people have, but for the sake of this thread lets not. What affects people on this forum is the fact that get the cheapest HDMI cable that is the right lenght for you and you will be happy. No difference in regards to digital cables and all HDMI cables can do 1080p -- take back the Circuit City cables dude -- tell them that that is their cost for lying to you...... Agreed. That is far beyond the scope of this thread, and we are in agreement as far as this thread goes. Sorry to be off topic, but I honestly love it whenever anyone says 'that's beyond the scope of this X"
-=Mike
snyper1982
Its true that the more expensive cables are thicker, they are thick because they have more wires inside for more colors and better sound. They do make a difference but i cant tell the diff. I have monster cable HDMI 600 series i bought on ebay for 40babenjorgeThis almost made me burst out laughing at work (that would've been bad). I've highlighted the most amusing part for your enjoyment. The rest has already been corrected by a poster before me.
[QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="dalscowboys22"]actually not all HDMI cabels support 1080p if thats what you are looking for. i asked the people at circuit city and they helped me out. but you can read the package to let you know to but i just bought the monster cable that was made for the ps3 and does 1080pGzus666They ALL support 1080P.... yea they do, "dalscowboys22" you should probably go punch the person who told you that in the face. read up a little Or not because you can read the packages on the diferent cabels monster sells and it even says some only support up to 720p and 1080i so i think not.
[QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="dalscowboys22"]actually not all HDMI cabels support 1080p if thats what you are looking for. i asked the people at circuit city and they helped me out. but you can read the package to let you know to but i just bought the monster cable that was made for the ps3 and does 1080pGzus666They ALL support 1080P.... yea they do, "dalscowboys22" you should probably go punch the person who told you that in the face. read up a little Or not because you can read the packages on the diferent cabels monster sells and it even says some only support up to 720p and 1080i so i think not. and i bought one and hooked it up and changed the display setting to 1080p and it didnt work so i look at the package and it says it doesnt to 1080p, and yes my tv is 1080p
They ALL support 1080P.... yea they do, "dalscowboys22" you should probably go punch the person who told you that in the face. read up a little Or not because you can read the packages on the diferent cabels monster sells and it even says some only support up to 720p and 1080i so i think not. and i bought one and hooked it up and changed the display setting to 1080p and it didnt work so i look at the package and it says it doesnt to 1080p, and yes my tv is 1080p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdmi read the video outputs it supports there champ, not sure what magic cable you bought. every HDMI cable made supports 1080P. http://hdmi.com/about/faq.asp "HDMI has the capacity to support existing high-definition video formats (720p, 1080i, and 1080p/60). It also has the flexibility to support enhanced definition formats such as 480p, as well as standard definition formats such as NTSC or PAL." any other proof needed? or have you decided to focus on pulling the foot out of your mouth?[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="dalscowboys22"]actually not all HDMI cabels support 1080p if thats what you are looking for. i asked the people at circuit city and they helped me out. but you can read the package to let you know to but i just bought the monster cable that was made for the ps3 and does 1080pdalscowboys22
[QUOTE="dalscowboys22"]They ALL support 1080P.... yea they do, "dalscowboys22" you should probably go punch the person who told you that in the face. read up a little Or not because you can read the packages on the diferent cabels monster sells and it even says some only support up to 720p and 1080i so i think not. and i bought one and hooked it up and changed the display setting to 1080p and it didnt work so i look at the package and it says it doesnt to 1080p, and yes my tv is 1080p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdmi read the video outputs it supports there champ, not sure what magic cable you bought. every HDMI cable made supports 1080P. http://hdmi.com/about/faq.asp "HDMI has the capacity to support existing high-definition video formats (720p, 1080i, and 1080p/60). It also has the flexibility to support enhanced definition formats such as 480p, as well as standard definition formats such as NTSC or PAL." any other proof needed? or have you decided to focus on pulling the foot out of your mouth? well tell that to the people at the circuit city where i am becaues im pretty sure they no if a hdmi cabel does not support it. so why dont you acutally use them all and we will see.[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="dalscowboys22"]actually not all HDMI cabels support 1080p if thats what you are looking for. i asked the people at circuit city and they helped me out. but you can read the package to let you know to but i just bought the monster cable that was made for the ps3 and does 1080pGzus666
I've seen prices ranging from 40-110. This is obviously for the PS3 if that makes a difference.nayoopI got mine for .99 cents off of Ebay from some seller that recycles electronics. It's the Nyko red/black HDMI cable for PS3 (or at least it says it is on the box). It goes for 50.00 in the store brand new. The wire works great and the picture is perfect. I looked at the monster cable but for that price it'd have to be really special. I don't think there's much of a difference between the two.
"It's Digital, it either works or it doesn't."
"It's all 1s and 0s"
I hear this a lot and it's not that simple. It is all digital, and it is all 1's and 0's. But how come nobody ever stops to think that some of those 1's and 0's can be lost? And there is no error correction on HDMI, so if it's lost it's lost for good.
That being said I use monoprice, long before I came onto this site (AVS Forum member for years). Their cables are good. But the "it either works or it doesn't" phrase is wrong. Anyone with DirecTV can tell you that at times especially during storms, occasionally the picture and signal go away, but also sometimes you receive a signal/picture but it's all messed up, or there is interference. It's digital so it should either work perfectly or not at all right? Wrong. Again to reiterate the 1's and 0's can be lost. The result varies, and it is unlikely, but it can and does happen. Analogize to packets being lost when sent over a network or the internet.
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