Is Valkryia Chronicles actually good?

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#1 R0rschach-
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I've heard alot of positive things about Valkyria Chronicles from reviews, and from people here on these forums. I like the idea of mixing together third-person shooter and real time strategy. The visuals\graphics look kinda neat. The only thing thats kinda weird, is the gameplay when your playing in third person. It looks kind of stupid, because you have these words flashing across the screen saying "POTENTIAL!", and there is this automatapia (cant spell it =P) that flashes off when you drive a tank or shoot a gun. It's kinda annoying. I've also seen people run pass enemies, and yet they dont turn to fire on them? They just remain faced in the same direction the entire time. In addition, the firing mechanics look... i unno, it looks *** No offence of course. I saw some vids showing someone controlling a tank, and apparently its "attack" is lobbing a ball into the air, and watching it slowly arc before crashing upon an enemies head. I dont know about you guys, but when i saw that, i just went like wtf? The gameplay also seems really slow as well. I tried playing the demo, and i guess it was okay. I really hope that it isn't an accurate representation though... Anyhow, like i really am interested in it, but i still have my personal doubts whether it'll be a good game for me. Based on what i've told you, can you guys give me some input?

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#2 Duckman5
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Seriously if you can't decide for yourself from judging from the numerous reviews, user recommendations, and gameplay footage then you don't deserve to have someone tell you what to buy.
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#3 R0rschach-
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Well i wouldn't know if it was a good and proper game for me, seeing as i've never played it before? Reviews dont mean much to me, because what they may like, i may dislike; and vice-versa. I just told you guys my thoughts on it, and i just asked for some input regarding my current situation.. And i have my doubts about everything. I dont think there is anything wrong with just making sure of things before you go out to make a decision.

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#5 Duckman5
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Actually, nevermind. Do not buy it. If you didn't like the demo then don't buy the game. In fact nothing you said is particularly positive about the game so I can't understand why you would think of buying it.
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#6 SavoyPrime
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I suggest you check out some gameplay vids. That should help you out. It's a damn good game and I haven't been a fan of SRPGs since FF Tactics and the Ogre Battle/Tactics Ogre.

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The worst thing that could happen: You spend 60 dollars on something you didn't like. Trade it in, sell it, or get a refund. The best thing that could happen: You'll have one hell of a fun time.
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#8 R0rschach-
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Played the demo; renting really isnt an option for me. I'm tight on money, and coughing out $10 on something i may not want isn't worth it to me. And the thing is, i dont know if Valkyria Chronicles is the right type of game for me or not. The reason for being so, is that there hasn't been any other game like it before, that has been created. If i was trying to decide whether i wanted to pick up a new RTS or shooter, i could make my decision, because i've played those genres of games before, and i know i like them

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#9 yokofox33
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It's that good. Buy it. There's really nothing more I can say other than JANN WALKER!!!!!!!

VC is well worth your money if you enjoy strategy games. It's the best game on the PS3 for me.

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#10 FishSquared
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Yes, it is that amazing. Possibly one of if not THE most underrated game this generation. Support this game, as they are thinking of doing a sequel. Support this game and buy the DLC. It's a fantastic breath of fresh air in the SRPG series.
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#11 musicaz70
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I thought it was pretty good, I am so far enjoying the anime more though :P

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#12 edthetinker
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I liked the game, but it's really not as groundbreaking as everybody says. It is fun, and worth buying if you like the genre, but overrated.

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#13 nethernova
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Well, let me be the first one to tell you... it's a RPG! It's not a shooter! The enemies don't turn around and shoot you when you pass them because it's not their turn! I'm about 99% sure that this is not the right game for you. Save yourself the trouble.
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#14 Takuzi
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Since we don't know your taste in gaming, we can't tell you if VC is "good" or not. You can always try the demo, rent the game, or watch some gameplay footage videos before you make your decision.

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#15 R0rschach-
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Yeah alright i'll go ahead and buy this game... its pretty cheap nowadays, right?

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#16 edthetinker
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Well, let me be the first one to tell you... it's a RPG! It's not a shooter! The enemies don't turn around and shoot you when you pass them because it's not their turn! I'm about 99% sure that this is not the right game for you. Save yourself the trouble.nethernova

The enemies do turn around and shoot you when you run past.

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#17 nethernova
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The enemies do turn around and shoot you when you run past.

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#18 Zoso-8
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If you like SRPGs, yes. If not, no. Simple as that.
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#19 Duckman5
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Yeah alright i'll go ahead and buy this game... its pretty cheap nowadays, right?

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Not really. There was a sale at gamestop weeks ago but now I can't see any major price drops.
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#20 funsohng
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umm yeah it's an awesome game but u know, if u r looking for a realistic depiction of anything in a rpg or srpg, that's kinda wrong.
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#21 Scieran
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It's okay

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#22 rlg5150
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I felt the same way as you did... Usure about buying because I really didn't think I would enjoyt his game based on gameplay videos and reviews... But I'm very glad I bought it. It was nothing like I expected and is a very addicting game with fresh gameplay.

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#23 mdmilius
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I bought this game based on the reputation that it has earned on this forum, particularly from some posters I have grown to respect. I have played a little bit of it so far but what I have seen is great. It is very unique and I can't think of a game exactly like it.

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#24 adizorz
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i have heard alot of positive things about paragraphs.

i played the demo, thought the combat was kinda meh.

did anyone feel like that and got the game anyway and ended up liking it?

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Well i wouldn't know if it was a good and proper game for me, seeing as i've never played it before? Reviews dont mean much to me, because what they may like, i may dislike; and vice-versa. I just told you guys my thoughts on it, and i just asked for some input regarding my current situation.. And i have my doubts about everything. I dont think there is anything wrong with just making sure of things before you go out to make a decision.

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like he said how are we supposed to convince you...we don't know what you like. and you've seen all the input on the forums from us....what else do you need?
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I've heard alot of positive things about Valkyria Chronicles from reviews, and from people here on these forums. I like the idea of mixing together third-person shooter and real time strategy. The visuals\graphics look kinda neat. The only thing thats kinda weird, is the gameplay when your playing in third person. It looks kind of stupid, because you have these words flashing across the screen saying "POTENTIAL!", and there is this automatapia (cant spell it =P) that flashes off when you drive a tank or shoot a gun. It's kinda annoying. I've also seen people run pass enemies, and yet they dont turn to fire on them? They just remain faced in the same direction the entire time. In addition, the firing mechanics look... i unno, it looks *** No offence of course. I saw some vids showing someone controlling a tank, and apparently its "attack" is lobbing a ball into the air, and watching it slowly arc before crashing upon an enemies head. I dont know about you guys, but when i saw that, i just went like wtf? The gameplay also seems really slow as well. I tried playing the demo, and i guess it was okay. I really hope that it isn't an accurate representation though... Anyhow, like i really am interested in it, but i still have my personal doubts whether it'll be a good game for me. Based on what i've told you, can you guys give me some input?

Edit: Edited to remove derogatory term. A message from the mods.R0rschach-

Wow, I can't believe how completely useless some of you posters are. The man just asked for advice. You can see by what he's said in the paragraph above that he has a few misconceptions about the game that need to be cleared up for him. If you can't post something helpful then don't post. Otherwise you're just being rude......

ON TOPIC: Let me first say that I, too, played demo and thought MEH, but the demo hardly scratches the surface of how deep the gameplay in VC actually goes. And it is SOOO fun. But I'll get to that. First, I have to clear up some of your misconceptions. When "potential" pops up on the screen it means that certain conditions were met and a special increase or decrease in abilities has been activated. Each character has different potentials. When a potential is activated it can be good or bad; you can take more damage or deal more damage or have increased accuracy or so on.... So, if the word "potential" didn't flash across the screen you wouldn't know about your new condition and wether not to take advantage of it or be weary of it.

As far as enemies who don't fire go there is a reason for that. Enemies only fire if you cross into their line of sight. Some, like shocktroopers can only see about 60 degrees of the area in fron of them, so you should be able to walk pretty closely beside them without being shot at. Scouts, on the other hand, can see like 250 degrees or better, so they're likely to shoot you unless you come straight up behind them. Lots of games use a system like this. Look at the MGS series.

What you saw the tank firing was a mortor. The tank's mortor blast is for taking out foot soldiers. There's also and anti-armor shell (basic canon) and a big machine gun. They are all very useful.

The gameplay IS slow. Its a freakin' strategy game. You take turns and you have to make sure you make smart moves, so you have to take your tiime and plan it out. Also, each squad member, based on class, can only move a certain distance per turn so it takes time to get them where you want them. But the battle fields are compact enough so its not to grueling a task, and on the larger fields there are multiple bases so you can start closer to where you want to be... But it is slow. I fought a boss that took me almost two hours of careful planning to destroy. But this game is hard to put down, and its been a long time since I've won a battle and jumped up out of my seat shouting praises to myself- VC does this for me!

All in all the game has a great story, though its obviously not for everyone. Its an anime at heart and can be cheesey at times, but the basic premise is really cool. Its an RPG, so some things are gonna happen that look or sound cheesey. Thats just how RPGS are for the most part. BUt the game is very addictive and endlessly fun. I played the same skirmishes over and over just to perfect them (you get letter scores based on how well you performed in battle; I strive for all A's). The gameplay goes pretty deep, and you've never played anything like this. I promise. You might not like it at all, but I felt just like you before I bought it. I just bit the bullet and went for it.... Man, that bullet tastes gooooooooood!!! VC is my third favorite game (after MGS4 and KZ2, of course). You couldn't do yourself much harm by buying this game. So, I say, go for it.

Hope this was helpful. If you have any more questions feel free to PM me.

-Neph

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i din't like it but that is my opinion
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#28 fadimina
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DON'T WORRY. I completely understand what you're saying because when i saw the video gameplay on youtube, i was like WTF? i didn't like it at all.. but when i heard lots of goodies about this game i thought i should check it out, and i should tell you IT IS A BLAST TO PLAY. The gameplay is deep and rewarding, eventhough it's slow but it's a strategy game not a straightforward action one. The story is interesting, the characters are lovely, the music is nice... really, there's a lot to this game and you should try it out, if you love strategy rpg that is.

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#29 HarshGamer
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I've heard alot of positive things about Valkyria Chronicles from reviews, and from people here on these forums. I like the idea of mixing together third-person shooter and real time strategy. The visuals\graphics look kinda neat. The only thing thats kinda weird, is the gameplay when your playing in third person. It looks kind of stupid, because you have these words flashing across the screen saying "POTENTIAL!", and there is this automatapia (cant spell it =P) that flashes off when you drive a tank or shoot a gun. It's kinda annoying. I've also seen people run pass enemies, and yet they dont turn to fire on them? They just remain faced in the same direction the entire time. In addition, the firing mechanics look... i unno, it looks *** No offence of course. I saw some vids showing someone controlling a tank, and apparently its "attack" is lobbing a ball into the air, and watching it slowly arc before crashing upon an enemies head. I dont know about you guys, but when i saw that, i just went like wtf? The gameplay also seems really slow as well. I tried playing the demo, and i guess it was okay. I really hope that it isn't an accurate representation though... Anyhow, like i really am interested in it, but i still have my personal doubts whether it'll be a good game for me. Based on what i've told you, can you guys give me some input?

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How's the Darkness BTW?
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#30 Sokol4ever
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[QUOTE="R0rschach-"]

I've heard alot of positive things about Valkyria Chronicles from reviews, and from people here on these forums. I like the idea of mixing together third-person shooter and real time strategy. The visuals\graphics look kinda neat. The only thing thats kinda weird, is the gameplay when your playing in third person. It looks kind of stupid, because you have these words flashing across the screen saying "POTENTIAL!", and there is this automatapia (cant spell it =P) that flashes off when you drive a tank or shoot a gun. It's kinda annoying. I've also seen people run pass enemies, and yet they dont turn to fire on them? They just remain faced in the same direction the entire time. In addition, the firing mechanics look... i unno, it looks *** No offence of course. I saw some vids showing someone controlling a tank, and apparently its "attack" is lobbing a ball into the air, and watching it slowly arc before crashing upon an enemies head. I dont know about you guys, but when i saw that, i just went like wtf? The gameplay also seems really slow as well. I tried playing the demo, and i guess it was okay. I really hope that it isn't an accurate representation though... Anyhow, like i really am interested in it, but i still have my personal doubts whether it'll be a good game for me. Based on what i've told you, can you guys give me some input?

Edit: Edited to remove derogatory term. A message from the mods.Nephilim83

Wow, I can't believe how completely useless some of you posters are. The man just asked for advice. You can see by what he's said in the paragraph above that he has a few misconceptions about the game that need to be cleared up for him. If you can't post something helpful then don't post. Otherwise you're just being rude......

ON TOPIC: Let me first say that I, too, played demo and thought MEH, but the demo hardly scratches the surface of how deep the gameplay in VC actually goes. And it is SOOO fun. But I'll get to that. First, I have to clear up some of your misconceptions. When "potential" pops up on the screen it means that certain conditions were met and a special increase or decrease in abilities has been activated. Each character has different potentials. When a potential is activated it can be good or bad; you can take more damage or deal more damage or have increased accuracy or so on.... So, if the word "potential" didn't flash across the screen you wouldn't know about your new condition and wether not to take advantage of it or be weary of it.

As far as enemies who don't fire go there is a reason for that. Enemies only fire if you cross into their line of sight. Some, like shocktroopers can only see about 60 degrees of the area in fron of them, so you should be able to walk pretty closely beside them without being shot at. Scouts, on the other hand, can see like 250 degrees or better, so they're likely to shoot you unless you come straight up behind them. Lots of games use a system like this. Look at the MGS series.

What you saw the tank firing was a mortor. The tank's mortor blast is for taking out foot soldiers. There's also and anti-armor shell (basic canon) and a big machine gun. They are all very useful.

The gameplay IS slow. Its a freakin' strategy game. You take turns and you have to make sure you make smart moves, so you have to take your tiime and plan it out. Also, each squad member, based on class, can only move a certain distance per turn so it takes time to get them where you want them. But the battle fields are compact enough so its not to grueling a task, and on the larger fields there are multiple bases so you can start closer to where you want to be... But it is slow. I fought a boss that took me almost two hours of careful planning to destroy. But this game is hard to put down, and its been a long time since I've won a battle and jumped up out of my seat shouting praises to myself- VC does this for me!

All in all the game has a great story, though its obviously not for everyone. Its an anime at heart and can be cheesey at times, but the basic premise is really cool. Its an RPG, so some things are gonna happen that look or sound cheesey. Thats just how RPGS are for the most part. BUt the game is very addictive and endlessly fun. I played the same skirmishes over and over just to perfect them (you get letter scores based on how well you performed in battle; I strive for all A's). The gameplay goes pretty deep, and you've never played anything like this. I promise. You might not like it at all, but I felt just like you before I bought it. I just bit the bullet and went for it.... Man, that bullet tastes gooooooooood!!! VC is my third favorite game (after MGS4 and KZ2, of course). You couldn't do yourself much harm by buying this game. So, I say, go for it.

Hope this was helpful. If you have any more questions feel free to PM me.

-Neph

Very well explained, great job.

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#31 zombie91
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It's that good. Buy it. There's really nothing more I can say other than JANN WALKER!!!!!!!

VC is well worth your money if you enjoy strategy games. It's the best game on the PS3 for me.

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If you're into strategy games VC is very good.

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#33 McMJ3
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Bad graphics?! You'd have to be tortured in order to be able to even speak that sentance.
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no........

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#35 CosbyOwnsStuff
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It's a grand game. Neph described it best. ...and yeah, It's in no way a shooter/action/tank simulation. It's a Japanese (Hence the manga like onomatopoeia), Tactical (Slow but very perplexing/engaging battles), RPG (Freaking role playing game). And it's beautiful to top it all off.
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#36 Solori
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Have you played other SRPGs?

If you answer YES to this question and you liked any other SRPG you will LOVE VC. VC is the SRPG evolved. It is exactly the kick in the butt that the genre needed. This is a must buy game for you.

If you answer NO-then you have to ask yourself, how important are twitch mechanics?

If you are a run and gun kind of gamer, this game is not for you. Don't waste your time.

If you like to plan out your actions or like games that require trial and error type thinking, this game might be for you. Give it a try.