January P2 out sells P3?? Now PSP & P2 outsell P3 whats going on!!!

this seems to be getting odder and odder every month. I can almost see P2 still outselling the P3 since it was the greatest system of all time for its time. But the PSP outselling P3 that crazy! We all now the PSP has been a total flop and yet its beating out the P3 is the word gone crazy? Sure we can blame it on the games but that doesn't make a lot of since because P2 hasn't dropped any big games ether. I mean VF5 was suppose to kick these console numbers up but they fell off over 30% from January! Sony's needs to do something quick while no one thinks the P3 is a failure, but if they keep letting these numbers come out month after month then the store gaming employees are going to jump all over this. Thats what happen to the Dreamcast it was labled doomed before it had a real chance. well here are the numbers now how bad do you think this is??????

On the hardware side, Nintendo's DS led the way, selling 485,000 systems during February. Its console counterpart was the second-best-selling system, as 335,000 Wiis were sold in the US. Domestically, the Xbox 360 sold around 228,000, while Sony saw its older hardware outselling newer offerings. The PlayStation 2 moved 295,000 units, followed by the PlayStation Portable's 176,000, and the PlayStation 3's 127,000.

While Nintendo posted the best numbers in the hardware sector, it was a Microsoft game that claimed the top of the software sales charts. Sporting a coveted invite to the Halo 3 beta testing program, the Xbox 360 game Crackdown had the top of the charts on lockdown for February, selling 427,000 copies during the briefest of months.

this seems to be getting odder and odder every month. I can almost see P2 still outselling the P3 since it was the greatest system of all time for its time. But the PSP outselling P3 that crazy! We all now the PSP has been a total flop and yet its beating out the P3 is the word gone crazy? Sure we can blame it on the games but that doesn't make a lot of since because P2 hasn't dropped any big games ether. I mean VF5 was suppose to kick these console numbers up but they fell off over 30% from January! Sony's needs to do something quick while no one thinks the P3 is a failure, but if they keep letting these numbers come out month after month then the store gaming employees are going to jump all over this. Thats what happen to the Dreamcast it was labled doomed before it had a real chance. well here are the numbers now how bad do you think this is??????

On the hardware side, Nintendo's DS led the way, selling 485,000 systems during February. Its console counterpart was the second-best-selling system, as 335,000 Wiis were sold in the US. Domestically, the Xbox 360 sold around 228,000, while Sony saw its older hardware outselling newer offerings. The PlayStation 2 moved 295,000 units, followed by the PlayStation Portable's 176,000, and the PlayStation 3's 127,000.

While Nintendo posted the best numbers in the hardware sector, it was a Microsoft game that claimed the top of the software sales charts. Sporting a coveted invite to the Halo 3 beta testing program, the Xbox 360 game Crackdown had the top of the charts on lockdown for February, selling 427,000 copies during the briefest of months.

vip_kass

[QUOTE="vip_kass"]

this seems to be getting odder and odder every month. I can almost see P2 still outselling the P3 since it was the greatest system of all time for its time. But the PSP outselling P3 that crazy! We all now the PSP has been a total flop and yet its beating out the P3 is the word gone crazy? Sure we can blame it on the games but that doesn't make a lot of since because P2 hasn't dropped any big games ether. I mean VF5 was suppose to kick these console numbers up but they fell off over 30% from January! Sony's needs to do something quick while no one thinks the P3 is a failure, but if they keep letting these numbers come out month after month then the store gaming employees are going to jump all over this. Thats what happen to the Dreamcast it was labled doomed before it had a real chance. well here are the numbers now how bad do you think this is??????

On the hardware side, Nintendo's DS led the way, selling 485,000 systems during February. Its console counterpart was the second-best-selling system, as 335,000 Wiis were sold in the US. Domestically, the Xbox 360 sold around 228,000, while Sony saw its older hardware outselling newer offerings. The PlayStation 2 moved 295,000 units, followed by the PlayStation Portable's 176,000, and the PlayStation 3's 127,000.

While Nintendo posted the best numbers in the hardware sector, it was a Microsoft game that claimed the top of the software sales charts. Sporting a coveted invite to the Halo 3 beta testing program, the Xbox 360 game Crackdown had the top of the charts on lockdown for February, selling 427,000 copies during the briefest of months.

Deihmos

Playstations traditionally take their time before anhilating opposition.  The signs are there for Europe even before that;

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=15184

"PS3 UK release most anticipated in 20 years" - Yes, even more than the most successful console in history, the PS2.

UK chain Woolworths have also claimed they filled out pre-orders at a rate of 20 seconds each.  The Dutch have also pre-ordered 90% of their National allocation.

So then is the simple answer LOWER the price or risk losing market share? I mean how long can this go on until

it becomes clear that Sony will never get the market share back that they once had with P2? Maybe we are already

there and this is going to be the way the next gen rolls out?? Seem really wrong to me that the Wii should be

the top dog! That’s just not right in my head as I see them as a GameCube 2 with a new interface and backward

gaming library. But that the reason it should be the winner its best assets is its virtual console of old games.

Yet Xbox360 has some REALLY strong games coming down the pipe so I can see its console number shooting up. Also

the Aussie will now get GOW as part of 360 packages so that’s definitely going to make some sidelines jump in

and buy. But from what I see P3 doesn't have any answers for at least the rest of this year. By then it maybe

too late as more and more gamers go the Wii360 path…

Whats really sad is that the GBA out sold the PS3.vstag

Whats really sad is that the GBA out sold the PS3.vstag

Man I really whant the ps3 to do great and make a huge 3 way battle, but the Wii is just beating the crap out of the PS3 and makeing a run at the leading 360.  Maybe it will change but at this point is totally uphill for the PS3 and the Wii just flying to the top.  vstag

Man I really whant the ps3 to do great and make a huge 3 way battle, but the Wii is just beating the crap out of the PS3 and makeing a run at the leading 360.  Maybe it will change but at this point is totally uphill for the PS3 and the Wii just flying to the top.  vstag

The PSP is not a flop.  Before it came out Sony had 0% of the handheld market.  In 2 years they have taken 35% of the market from Nintendo.  How is that a flop?  The Dreamcast died because Sega ran out of money after supporting the woeful Saturn for 5 years..... 

 As for the ps3 yes Sony miscalculated.  They thought they could force a bluray player into every ps2 owner's home on name recognition alone.  They were wrong and they are paying for it.  They will lose market share this generation in exchange for winning the HD disc market.  That being said last generation sold about 160 million total consoles.  This generation should be around 180-200 million. They have sold about 18 million total so far.  There is a long way to go so stop crying.

[QUOTE="vstag"]Man I really whant the ps3 to do great and make a huge 3 way battle, but the Wii is just beating the crap out of the PS3 and makeing a run at the leading 360.  Maybe it will change but at this point is totally uphill for the PS3 and the Wii just flying to the top.  Deihmos

The PSP is not a flop.  Before it came out Sony had 0% of the handheld market.  In 2 years they have taken 35% of the market from Nintendo.  How is that a flop?  The Dreamcast died because Sega ran out of money after supporting the woeful Saturn for 5 years..... 

 As for the ps3 yes Sony miscalculated.  They thought they could force a bluray player into every ps2 owner's home on name recognition alone.  They were wrong and they are paying for it.  They will lose market share this generation in exchange for winning the HD disc market.  That being said last generation sold about 160 million total consoles.  This generation should be around 180-200 million. They have sold about 18 million total so far.  There is a long way to go so stop crying.

crck

[QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="vstag"]Man I really whant the ps3 to do great and make a huge 3 way battle, but the Wii is just beating the crap out of the PS3 and makeing a run at the leading 360.  Maybe it will change but at this point is totally uphill for the PS3 and the Wii just flying to the top.  vip_kass

The PSP is not a flop.  Before it came out Sony had 0% of the handheld market.  In 2 years they have taken 35% of the market from Nintendo.  How is that a flop?  The Dreamcast died because Sega ran out of money after supporting the woeful Saturn for 5 years..... 

 As for the ps3 yes Sony miscalculated.  They thought they could force a bluray player into every ps2 owner's home on name recognition alone.  They were wrong and they are paying for it.  They will lose market share this generation in exchange for winning the HD disc market.  That being said last generation sold about 160 million total consoles.  This generation should be around 180-200 million. They have sold about 18 million total so far.  There is a long way to go so stop crying.

crck

AND also the fact that almost all "exclusives" for the PS3 are being overshadowed by the Wii sales, and upcoming first party MS games...lets face it guys, everyone could buy a 360 and a Wii instead of a PS3...why?

The Wii offers FUN...PURE, RAW FUN, for everyone (heck even my mom asked me why I want a 360 and not that little Wii thing, then I got alarmed because my mom thinks there are still SNES in the market)

The 360 offers almost every game the PS3 has now on the market, GoW, Halo 3, BioShock, Mass Effect, AND GTA IV, Assasins Creed, and Wipeout for a cheaper price...that and it's online features are better (and now 50 bucks a year isn't that much, just get a dollar every week and THERE)

See, I kinda was into the PS3, but if Sony thinks people are gonna buy the PS3...JUST because of its Blu-ray capabilites...they are wrong...they need good, first party, must have, games, because me, like a bunch of other people that had the PS2 (and played all its exclusives), am not willing to pay 600-1000 dollars (I live in Ecuador) just to play the final MGS game, because it pains me to say this but...it ain't worth it!

[QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="vip_kass"]

this seems to be getting odder and odder every month. I can almost see P2 still outselling the P3 since it was the greatest system of all time for its time. But the PSP outselling P3 that crazy! We all now the PSP has been a total flop and yet its beating out the P3 is the word gone crazy? Sure we can blame it on the games but that doesn't make a lot of since because P2 hasn't dropped any big games ether. I mean VF5 was suppose to kick these console numbers up but they fell off over 30% from January! Sony's needs to do something quick while no one thinks the P3 is a failure, but if they keep letting these numbers come out month after month then the store gaming employees are going to jump all over this. Thats what happen to the Dreamcast it was labled doomed before it had a real chance. well here are the numbers now how bad do you think this is??????

On the hardware side, Nintendo's DS led the way, selling 485,000 systems during February. Its console counterpart was the second-best-selling system, as 335,000 Wiis were sold in the US. Domestically, the Xbox 360 sold around 228,000, while Sony saw its older hardware outselling newer offerings. The PlayStation 2 moved 295,000 units, followed by the PlayStation Portable's 176,000, and the PlayStation 3's 127,000.

While Nintendo posted the best numbers in the hardware sector, it was a Microsoft game that claimed the top of the software sales charts. Sporting a coveted invite to the Halo 3 beta testing program, the Xbox 360 game Crackdown had the top of the charts on lockdown for February, selling 427,000 copies during the briefest of months.

FearlessSpirit

What everyone seems to forget, or they weren't old enough back then, is that the PS2 had the same issues.

http://archive.salon.com/tech/log/2000/10/27/playstation_rant/index.html

Here's an article saying how much the Dreamcast is better in the same ways as they do now with the 360 back in 2000.

I'm not saying the 360 is going to fail because lets be honest, Microsoft and Sony cannot fail. They are huge corporations with arms in all kinds of different markets. If the gaming division of either company starts to lag, they can just feed it with the profits from another. Its a matter of who will have the most market share, neither can fail.

I predict the PS3 being impossible to find this Xmas just like it was at launch, but with more stock. Just call it a hunch. If you haven't gotten a PS3 yet, and are planning on playing MGS and DMC and possibly Killzone and Heavenly Sword, I highly recommend getting one ASAP because with these titles hitting at the same time as PShome, plus I predict a price reduction (the PSP was reduced after its 1 year anniversary). This thing will be a hot Xmas item.

Sony has said that they will lower the price of their Blu ray Player by the end of 07' to almost $300, that means that they would have to lower the price of the PS3 in order to make the PS3 just as viable in the movie media market as well.

price reduction+big name exclusives+GTA=demand

Even though GTA is a multi-platform release, the casual gamer normally associates it with Sony and may just purchase a PS3 without even knowing that its multiplatform. Think about it. I bet that if I were to ask the casual gamer, they wouldn't even know. As a matter of fact, most of them probably prefer it on Sony.

Also, every 360 owner that I personally know (not online) I talk to gets jealous when I tell them I own a PS3. Every single one of them say that the only reason they bought a 360 was cause they didn't want to wait for Sony for Next Gen. they said that as soon as the price drops, they're buying.

You can quote everything I've said.
azuroc

The Ps2 was $299 at launch. It was much easier to purchase.Deihmos

Of course there will be a price drop...but I dunno...maybe the other 2 companies...dont you think...that maybe...MAYBE...they'll do the same thing???

AND also the fact that almost all "exclusives" for the PS3 are being overshadowed by the Wii sales, and upcoming first party MS games...lets face it guys, everyone could buy a 360 and a Wii instead of a PS3...why?

The Wii offers FUN...PURE, RAW FUN, for everyone (heck even my mom asked me why I want a 360 and not that little Wii thing, then I got alarmed because my mom thinks there are still SNES in the market)

The 360 offers almost every game the PS3 has now on the market, GoW, Halo 3, BioShock, Mass Effect, AND GTA IV, Assasins Creed, and Wipeout for a cheaper price...that and it's online features are better (and now 50 bucks a year isn't that much, just get a dollar every week and THERE)

See, I kinda was into the PS3, but if Sony thinks people are gonna buy the PS3...JUST because of its Blu-ray capabilites...they are wrong...they need good, first party, must have, games, because me, like a bunch of other people that had the PS2 (and played all its exclusives), am not willing to pay 600-1000 dollars (I live in Ecuador) just to play the final MGS game, because it pains me to say this but...it ain't worth it!

CT-Link

[QUOTE="crck"]

The PSP is not a flop.  Before it came out Sony had 0% of the handheld market.  In 2 years they have taken 35% of the market from Nintendo.  How is that a flop?  The Dreamcast died because Sega ran out of money after supporting the woeful Saturn for 5 years..... 

 As for the ps3 yes Sony miscalculated.  They thought they could force a bluray player into every ps2 owner's home on name recognition alone.  They were wrong and they are paying for it.  They will lose market share this generation in exchange for winning the HD disc market.  That being said last generation sold about 160 million total consoles.  This generation should be around 180-200 million. They have sold about 18 million total so far.  There is a long way to go so stop crying.

vip_kass

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]The Ps2 was $299 at launch. It was much easier to purchase.eclipsed4utoo

Not to me. $300 7 years ago is still $300 today. Inflation over the years was not much. Microsoft will more than likely drop the price this year then Sony will be in more trouble. I cannot wait to see how this year turns out for PS3.

What everyone seems to forget, or they weren't old enough back then, is that the PS2 had the same issues.

http://archive.salon.com/tech/log/2000/10/27/playstation_rant/index.html

Here's an article saying how much the Dreamcast is better in the same ways as they do now with the 360 back in 2000.

I'm not saying the 360 is going to fail because lets be honest, Microsoft and Sony cannot fail. They are huge corporations with arms in all kinds of different markets. If the gaming division of either company starts to lag, they can just feed it with the profits from another. Its a matter of who will have the most market share, neither can fail.

I predict the PS3 being impossible to find this Xmas just like it was at launch, but with more stock. Just call it a hunch. If you haven't gotten a PS3 yet, and are planning on playing MGS and DMC and possibly Killzone and Heavenly Sword, I highly recommend getting one ASAP because with these titles hitting at the same time as PShome, plus I predict a price reduction (the PSP was reduced after its 1 year anniversary). This thing will be a hot Xmas item.

Sony has said that they will lower the price of their Blu ray Player by the end of 07' to almost $300, that means that they would have to lower the price of the PS3 in order to make the PS3 just as viable in the movie media market as well.

price reduction+big name exclusives+GTA=demand

Even though GTA is a multi-platform release, the casual gamer normally associates it with Sony and may just purchase a PS3 without even knowing that its multiplatform. Think about it. I bet that if I were to ask the casual gamer, they wouldn't even know. As a matter of fact, most of them probably prefer it on Sony.

Also, every 360 owner that I personally know (not online) I talk to gets jealous when I tell them I own a PS3. Every single one of them say that the only reason they bought a 360 was cause they didn't want to wait for Sony for Next Gen. they said that as soon as the price drops, they're buying.

You can quote everything I've said.
azuroc

The PS2's stats are certainly impressive; it's got hardware power to burn. But so what? There's just not much software available that can take advantage of it. The games that are being released at the same time as the system don't rise much, if at all, above games available for Sega's rival (and cheaper) Dreamcast video-game system.

And don't expect a huge number of quality games anytime soon. Sony has reversed positions with Sega and stupidly released a system that is in many ways a game developer's nightmare. Sega, learning from its Saturn debacle, went out of its way to make the Dreamcast easy to develop games for. But Sony, intoxicated with success from the first PlayStation, forgot the first rule of the video-game industry: Software sells systems. If you make it hard for developers to produce good games then there's no reason for people to buy the system. This oversight has already cost Sony some goodwill -- developers are howling about how hard it is to create games for the system. In an interview with Time magazine, John Carmack, one of the developers behind such massively popular games as Doom and Quake, said that the "PS2 is definitely more powerful than Dreamcast. But it's less convenient to extract performance from it."

In comparison, the Sega Dreamcast sells for $149 and has a giant library of games already available. Sega also has an online game network, Seganet. The Dreamcast comes with a built-in 56K modem and Sega will soon release a broadband (cable/DSL) adapter for it. (The PS2 does not ship with a modem.) Sega is banking on the appeal of multiplayer online gaming, even going so far as to rebate the entire cost of a Dreamcast to players who sign up for Seganet. And for the first time ever we actually have cross-platform online gaming -- Seganet lets Dreamcast players compete against PC players in games like Quake 3. Sony, on the other hand, is promising online gaming later on but currently has nothing to offer purchasers of the PS2.

[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="Deihmos"]The Ps2 was $299 at launch. It was much easier to purchase.Deihmos

Not to me. $300 7 years ago is still $300 today. Inflation over the years was not much. Microsoft will more than likely drop the price this year then Sony will be in more trouble. I cannot wait to see how this year turns out for PS3.

Look..all I know is this...the history of videogames has proved one thing, the console with "pretty" graphics, raw power, and a bunch of other things, has always finished last...remember the Dreamcast???CT-Link

Look..all I know is this...the history of videogames has proved one thing, the console with "pretty" graphics, raw power, and a bunch of other things, has always finished last...remember the Dreamcast???CT-Link

The Wii is sellign units that is all. The games are not selling that well and I am sure soon the Wii sales will drop significantly. Right now the Die hard Nintendo fans are buyin it.whatsinsidebone

the die hard nintendo fans bought it on day one dude now everyone else is buying it nintendo cant even meet the demand

This is only going to make things worce as the P2 is still the best selling system for Sony here is the US. Once again Sony is dropping the ball. But hell we have one heck of a DVD player!!!

Starting from this April/May, Sony will begin shipping a revised version of the PS3 to Japanese and American retailers. The new system will have the P2 emulation chip removed, just like the soon-to-be-launched European version, and will therefore rely on firmware updates to add PS2 backward-compatibility over time.

PSP & PS2 are world wide and only $200 & $130 each compared to $600 and a not world wide PS3..... hellooooooooooM_Fresh

[QUOTE="M_Fresh"]PSP & PS2 are world wide and only $200 & $130 each compared to $600 and a not world wide PS3..... helloooooooooovip_kass

Holla @ me next month Mo...

[QUOTE="crck"]

The PSP is not a flop. Before it came out Sony had 0% of the handheld market. In 2 years they have taken 35% of the market from Nintendo. How is that a flop? The Dreamcast died because Sega ran out of money after supporting the woeful Saturn for 5 years.....

As for the ps3 yes Sony miscalculated. They thought they could force a bluray player into every ps2 owner's home on name recognition alone. They were wrong and they are paying for it. They will lose market share this generation in exchange for winning the HD disc market. That being said last generation sold about 160 million total consoles. This generation should be around 180-200 million. They have sold about 18 million total so far. There is a long way to go so stop crying.

vip_kass

[QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="crck"]

The PSP is not a flop. Before it came out Sony had 0% of the handheld market. In 2 years they have taken 35% of the market from Nintendo. How is that a flop? The Dreamcast died because Sega ran out of money after supporting the woeful Saturn for 5 years.....

As for the ps3 yes Sony miscalculated. They thought they could force a bluray player into every ps2 owner's home on name recognition alone. They were wrong and they are paying for it. They will lose market share this generation in exchange for winning the HD disc market. That being said last generation sold about 160 million total consoles. This generation should be around 180-200 million. They have sold about 18 million total so far. There is a long way to go so stop crying.

Brendruis

[QUOTE="Brendruis"][QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="crck"]

The PSP is not a flop. Before it came out Sony had 0% of the handheld market. In 2 years they have taken 35% of the market from Nintendo. How is that a flop? The Dreamcast died because Sega ran out of money after supporting the woeful Saturn for 5 years.....

As for the ps3 yes Sony miscalculated. They thought they could force a bluray player into every ps2 owner's home on name recognition alone. They were wrong and they are paying for it. They will lose market share this generation in exchange for winning the HD disc market. That being said last generation sold about 160 million total consoles. This generation should be around 180-200 million. They have sold about 18 million total so far. There is a long way to go so stop crying.

Deihmos

[QUOTE="vip_kass"][QUOTE="crck"]

The PSP is not a flop. Before it came out Sony had 0% of the handheld market. In 2 years they have taken 35% of the market from Nintendo. How is that a flop? The Dreamcast died because Sega ran out of money after supporting the woeful Saturn for 5 years.....

As for the ps3 yes Sony miscalculated. They thought they could force a bluray player into every ps2 owner's home on name recognition alone. They were wrong and they are paying for it. They will lose market share this generation in exchange for winning the HD disc market. That being said last generation sold about 160 million total consoles. This generation should be around 180-200 million. They have sold about 18 million total so far. There is a long way to go so stop crying.

Brendruis

This may sound like damage control.....but a lot of people might not be ready to jump into next-gen and these PS2 buyers will hopefully jump over to the PS3 when they're ready for next-gen. Most people don't buy next-gen consoles right away.
MikeE21286