Just finished MGS4. Possible spoilers.

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#1 Alter_Echo
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Going to admit. I cried during the later parts of the game. Being a long time fan i was so heavily invested emotionally and so interested in discovering the conclusion that it kind of got to me.

It was both heart wrenching and spiritually uplifting at the same time. And how thick was the nostalgia going back to Shadow Moses? Truely amazing. If any game has ever blurred the line between movie and game it was MGS4.

I have honestly never felt so connected or emotionally entrenched with a character before. Some people simply wont understand how much greater this game is than the sum of it's parts.

I cannot say it was my favorite game of all time or even of the series and its definitely not the best i have ever played. It just hits me in unexplainable ways that i really cant quanitify with words. Anything i try to write here will fail to fully explain it or do it justice.

The last few hours of the game are a Tour De Force and are in my opinion, a milestone for the industry.

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#2 funsohng
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For the ending, I was first like "huh, this is interesting", then it kept on going and going, and finally I cried because it was so damn boring and ridiculous. In terms of characters, MGS3 is the best. Gameplay was great, definitely one of the best. Story, it's barely better than MGS2, and that's not saying much. If MGS2 had at least comprehensible story, MGS4 would have been so much better.
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#3 1kryptic
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You cried over a game lol wtf...
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#4 Alter_Echo
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For the ending, I was first like "huh, this is interesting", then it kept on going and going, and finally I cried because it was so damn boring and ridiculous. In terms of characters, MGS3 is the best. Gameplay was great, definitely one of the best. Story, it's barely better than MGS2, and that's not saying much. If MGS2 had at least comprehensible story, MGS4 would have been so much better.funsohng

I can agree it was long winded and by the time it was over i was well past being ready for it to be over. Now that its over though i can look back and appreciate it without being frustrated by the fact that its still going on after an hour.

You kind of touched on what makes it so bewildering for me. The game itself when taken at face value is no better than any other "good" game i have played recently. It just clicked for me in the right places. It could also be because its the ending and endings are always more depressing and heavy than anything before them.

And i use "cried" loosely. More of a lump in the throat choked up feeling like you would get during an other emotional event. I wasnt sobbing like a girl if that is what was implied :lol:

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#5 MazehcS0ul
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You cried over a game lol wtf...1kryptic

You can say that again.

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#6 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="1kryptic"]You cried over a game lol wtf...MazehcS0ul

You can say that again.

Wow guys, wait to be cruel to the TC. So what? If any piece of literature/media is that good and emotional then its fine to cry. Although I did not cry at MGS it was indeed an amazing game with such deep story and IS one of the best games I have ever played and IS the best in the series IMO ;).

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its all good TC, the ending of mgs3 did the same thing to me. i think of all the games i've played the mgs series is some of the best at pulling you in and making you want to keep playing.

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#8 g0ddyX
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My eyes swelled up.. the ONLY bad thing about mgs4 is that the ending.. ENDED.. :)

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#9 NaveedLife
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My eyes swelled up.. the ONLY bad thing about mgs4 is that the ending.. ENDED.. :)

g0ddyX

Haha indeed! Heres to hoping MGS Rising is a worthy spinoff.

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#10 Tsuanthony
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You cried over a game lol wtf...1kryptic
apparently some people have yet to experience a game that is very well created, like art, games are pieces of work Hideo kojima creates great stories, and each of his games is a masterpiece you seem like the type that just loves to play super hyped up games like Modern warfare and never try anything new if something is beautiful, and the way the game presents itself is very touching to you, of course you'll cry I didn't cry of course, but I felt a sense of heavy weight/some solemn sadness as the ending ended and the credits rolled of course if you are not a fan of the series and don't understand the story , of course you might thinkg WTF, but don't be so closeminded >_>
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#11 Denji
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Well, never cried. But I was pretty sad when I thought Raiden died. Caught me by surprise actually. I jumped into MGS4 thinking everybody was going to die lol

What's with the ragging anyways? I've seen people cry at a lot less. These games really do go for emotional attachment. In fact, I heard it was a business model for Japanese games. To get people to care for and relate to characters. If you've been a fan for a very long time and begin to relate. It's no different than any other media that you relate to. Besides, most of these people who like to laugh at such a thing are usually on some pseudo male ego. Everybody has cried over something in some point of their lives. The thing is, they don't have the nads to admit it.

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What's with people thinking crying over a game is silly? Games are as great a medium as movies or books, and should be just as emotionally involving. In fact, that's what Kojima has set out to prove from the start!

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[QUOTE="MazehcS0ul"]

[QUOTE="1kryptic"]You cried over a game lol wtf...NaveedLife

You can say that again.

Wow guys, wait to be cruel to the TC. So what? If any piece of literature/media is that good and emotional then its fine to cry. Although I did not cry at MGS it was indeed an amazing game with such deep story and IS one of the best games I have ever played and IS the best in the series IMO ;).

I cried during the end of FF10, but I don't really know why. I was 10 so... Anyways, I didn't cry during the end of MGS4 but it certainly stuck with me. It is one of the best games ever made.
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[QUOTE="1kryptic"]You cried over a game lol wtf...Tsuanthony
apparently some people have yet to experience a game that is very well created, like art, games are pieces of work Hideo kojima creates great stories, and each of his games is a masterpiece you seem like the type that just loves to play super hyped up games like Modern warfare and never try anything new if something is beautiful, and the way the game presents itself is very touching to you, of course you'll cry I didn't cry of course, but I felt a sense of heavy weight/some solemn sadness as the ending ended and the credits rolled of course if you are not a fan of the series and don't understand the story , of course you might thinkg WTF, but don't be so closeminded >_>

I only play over hyped games because I don't cry...what? Crying over a video game is not normal behavior.
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#15 1kryptic
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What's with people thinking crying over a game is silly? Games are as great a medium as movies or books, and should be just as emotionally involving. In fact, that's what Kojima has set out to prove from the start!

hukibeast
It is silly, and it's also very strange and kind of sad.
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#17 hukibeast
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[QUOTE="hukibeast"]

What's with people thinking crying over a game is silly? Games are as great a medium as movies or books, and should be just as emotionally involving. In fact, that's what Kojima has set out to prove from the start!

1kryptic
It is silly, and it's also very strange and kind of sad.

What? So it's okay to cry at a movie, or TV show, or reading a book, but being emotionally moved by a videogame is weird just because it's a video game? What about a videogame makes it not allowed to be emotionally involving? You guys don't make any sense, a cutscene can be just as emotional as a scene in a movie! I challenge anybody to give me one real reason why that's not true.
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#18 Antikyth3ra
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I got upset at the end of MGS 4 because MGS was MY gaming series everyone has that favorites and MGS was mine. It was hard on me to know that it was all over..

The story has had me for years. I started with MG on the NES then played every US release from there on the day it came out. After learning the story and playing all the games it took a toll to know my streak is done :(

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[QUOTE="Tsuanthony"][QUOTE="1kryptic"][QUOTE="Tsuanthony"] apparently some people have yet to experience a game that is very well created, like art, games are pieces of work Hideo kojima creates great stories, and each of his games is a masterpiece you seem like the type that just loves to play super hyped up games like Modern warfare and never try anything new if something is beautiful, and the way the game presents itself is very touching to you, of course you'll cry I didn't cry of course, but I felt a sense of heavy weight/some solemn sadness as the ending ended and the credits rolled of course if you are not a fan of the series and don't understand the story , of course you might thinkg WTF, but don't be so closeminded >_>

I only play over hyped games because I don't cry...what? Crying over a video game is not normal behavior.

your type of responses make me assume your the ignorant type of gamer that doesn't try new games.. there are 2 ways you can look at video games.. 1) as a peice of art/work - people put their time into this, dedicated their time to make something amazing- if a game try to make you feel upset/sad, and you don't-that's almost a slap across the dvs face.. 2) those that only look at it as a form of "entertainment" and that would be you is it really silly to cry over a game? or are you afraid/find it silly/wimpy that people cry in general?

You cry over games?
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#22 Tsuanthony
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[QUOTE="Tsuanthony"][QUOTE="1kryptic"] I only play over hyped games because I don't cry...what? Crying over a video game is not normal behavior.1kryptic
your type of responses make me assume your the ignorant type of gamer that doesn't try new games.. there are 2 ways you can look at video games.. 1) as a peice of art/work - people put their time into this, dedicated their time to make something amazing- if a game try to make you feel upset/sad, and you don't-that's almost a slap across the dvs face.. 2) those that only look at it as a form of "entertainment" and that would be you is it really silly to cry over a game? or are you afraid/find it silly/wimpy that people cry in general?

You cry over games?

I do not cry over games, have yet to find a game that is so compelling and deep..

but I have had other emotions such as shock, anger, sympathy,hatred for characters, the story/plot

even if you only play MW2 im sure you had emotions such as disgust,surprise,anger at the ending..

if not Idk whats wrong with me , lol ^^

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ending was tight, the only thing I didn't like was big bosses voice why did they change it.. snake was if not was older then big boss (cloning rapid aging 2x faster). and his voice was the same..

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You cried over a game lol wtf...1kryptic
You have obviously never played ANY of the MGS games, Mass Effect, or Heavy Rain
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[QUOTE="Tsuanthony"][QUOTE="1kryptic"]You cried over a game lol wtf...1kryptic
apparently some people have yet to experience a game that is very well created, like art, games are pieces of work Hideo kojima creates great stories, and each of his games is a masterpiece you seem like the type that just loves to play super hyped up games like Modern warfare and never try anything new if something is beautiful, and the way the game presents itself is very touching to you, of course you'll cry I didn't cry of course, but I felt a sense of heavy weight/some solemn sadness as the ending ended and the credits rolled of course if you are not a fan of the series and don't understand the story , of course you might thinkg WTF, but don't be so closeminded >_>

I only play over hyped games because I don't cry...what? Crying over a video game is not normal behavior.

There is no getting through to this person :P.

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[QUOTE="1kryptic"][QUOTE="Tsuanthony"] apparently some people have yet to experience a game that is very well created, like art, games are pieces of work Hideo kojima creates great stories, and each of his games is a masterpiece you seem like the type that just loves to play super hyped up games like Modern warfare and never try anything new if something is beautiful, and the way the game presents itself is very touching to you, of course you'll cry I didn't cry of course, but I felt a sense of heavy weight/some solemn sadness as the ending ended and the credits rolled of course if you are not a fan of the series and don't understand the story , of course you might thinkg WTF, but don't be so closeminded >_>NaveedLife

I only play over hyped games because I don't cry...what? Crying over a video game is not normal behavior.

There is no getting through to this person :P.

Stubborn troll is stubborn :lol:

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[QUOTE="1kryptic"][QUOTE="Tsuanthony"] apparently some people have yet to experience a game that is very well created, like art, games are pieces of work Hideo kojima creates great stories, and each of his games is a masterpiece you seem like the type that just loves to play super hyped up games like Modern warfare and never try anything new if something is beautiful, and the way the game presents itself is very touching to you, of course you'll cry I didn't cry of course, but I felt a sense of heavy weight/some solemn sadness as the ending ended and the credits rolled of course if you are not a fan of the series and don't understand the story , of course you might thinkg WTF, but don't be so closeminded >_>NaveedLife

I only play over hyped games because I don't cry...what? Crying over a video game is not normal behavior.

There is no getting through to this person :P.

lmao so true :\ quite sad actually anyways it's totally up to him, if he wants to get the most out of his games, he has to stop harnding up and open up to the emotions the games give us :P
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#28 Denji
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ending was tight, the only thing I didn't like was big bosses voice why did they change it.. snake was if not was older then big boss (cloning rapid aging 2x faster). and his voice was the same..

Santesyu

I guess because they didn't want Hayter "talking to himself". :lol:

I remember they used the "MGS4 Big Boss" voice actor for the first Peace Walker teaser trailer. I actually thought they were going to go with him this time since he got the Big Boss roll in MGS4. But I'm glad it's Hayter.

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#29 1kryptic
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[QUOTE="1kryptic"]You cried over a game lol wtf...bigboss1203
You have obviously never played ANY of the MGS games, Mass Effect, or Heavy Rain

I have Mass Effect and MGS3. I likes the games, but if I've never cried over a movie let alone a video game. I like the characters in the games, but crying is going way overboard.
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#30 1kryptic
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And yes Mass Effect was sad, especially the part where you have to choose between Kaiden and Ashley for who lives.
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#31 Tsuanthony
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And yes Mass Effect was sad, especially the part where you have to choose between Kaiden and Ashley for who lives.1kryptic
looks like your just not as emotional as our friend here :) lol
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#32 1kryptic
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[QUOTE="1kryptic"]And yes Mass Effect was sad, especially the part where you have to choose between Kaiden and Ashley for who lives.Tsuanthony
looks like your just not as emotional as our friend here :) lol

I guess not lol
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It was damn amazing in every aspect. Yeah some of the ending was a bit cheesy (I guess I mean the epilogue) but it was totally appropriate. MGS4 is a true classic in every sense.
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#34 bigboss1203
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[QUOTE="bigboss1203"][QUOTE="1kryptic"]You cried over a game lol wtf...1kryptic
You have obviously never played ANY of the MGS games, Mass Effect, or Heavy Rain

I have Mass Effect and MGS3. I likes the games, but if I've never cried over a movie let alone a video game. I like the characters in the games, but crying is going way overboard.

Well you were being pretty insensitive and kind of a jackass towards the TC. If hes emotional then thats how he is, I myself have only cried once (MGS2 when Emma Emmerich dies) if you have never cried then thats fine, but dont treat him like hes abnormal. You kinda made it seem like you didnt think VG's had any emotional value, so forgive me for judging.
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#35 brickdoctor
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The first three acts of MGS4 were amazing, and act four was really good as well, but Act 5 was horrible and the ending flat out sucked. If they final act and prologue matched the quality of the rest of the game it truly would be the best Metal Gear but because it's not, I'd say the award for best Metal Gear goes to Sons of Liberty or Snake Eater.

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#36 dakan45
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The ending was more revealing that a famous tv series that you get all the answers to the questions in the end. :o: Oops, i didnt mean lost, godamn it, lost keeps bumping right infront of me. Anyway :P you know what i mean, that unlike many series games or tv shows, mgs4 explained everything in the ending, and thats something to congratulate Hideo for!!
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#37 dakan45
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And yes Mass Effect was sad, especially the part where you have to choose between Kaiden and Ashley for who lives.1kryptic
To be honest i found the entire game a cheap kotor ripoff that was trying to much. For example when they turned you into a spectre i was like "LAME jedi ripoff" when that part that you had to choose who lives and who dies happened, i was like "Kaiden, i could care less, Ashley is ugly but atleast we got something to talk about." When the sad music played in the ship, i was like "turn the damn music off damn it and lets continue the game" I dont know that game did not impress me at all. I have to say i had more sad moments in mw2, mirrors edge and resident evil 5.
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#38 mopi666
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MGS4 is a masterpiece. I enjoyed so many things in that game... for sure there are bad things but the game is huge. What I enjoyed the most was the one shot storyline and the emotional part of it. The characters, the atmosphere and the background of the story are great. Such as a very good movie for me. I didn't cry but I understand why you had tears! I had some for FF7 Aerith's death lol
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What took you so long? :P i got first day and finished it 2 days later ( 28 hours into it) best game ever and yeah i cried too, Infact my mom and little brother cried too ( they were beside me in the last mission) Awesome game indeed
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#40 strider_m16
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[QUOTE="1kryptic"]You cried over a game lol wtf...MazehcS0ul

You can say that again.

[/QUOTE) And again.

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#41 hanslacher54
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I don't see what's bad about getting emotional over a game. How is crying over a game worse than crying over a movie or something? I never cried during a game but I have gotten pretty close.

Here are some sad moment in games (spoilers)

Heavy Rain

MGS4

MGS2

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#42 Venom_Raptor
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lol, well it was an ok ending, but the epilogue was ridiculous. Never have I witnessed such a boring cutscene that lasted over an hour!!