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#1 Screamin_EaGLes
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i just got all 3 MGS and i'm planning on catching up to the metal gear story. before i start MGS for Ps1. i have a few questions
-is the stealth action really boring like SplinterCell, thats one thing i hated. the gameplay and setting was boring.
-are there any action levels where detection doesnt matter, you just kill the enemies?
-does the ps3 upscale MGS and MGS2 alot?
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#2 alphadragon00
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1.It is a stealth game,but not nearly as bad as Splinter Cell.Not just hiding in shadows,but more hiding behind bozxes,shelves,etc.Faster paced also.

2.There are a few time sin the games where your just kinda running,but you get shot a couple of times and your gone.So its mostly playing it safe.

3. It does upscale them,but its not gonna look like mgs4 at all.Ps3 upscaler mainly just makes the jaggy edges smoother.

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#3 Screamin_EaGLes
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thanks, i heard MGS and MGS2 show you alot of non-lethal guns such as tranqs. but you dont use alot of lethal weapons. is that true?
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#4 RENE2315
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where did you get mgs1 for the ps1
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#5 UnitFoxHound
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i just got all 3 MGS and i'm planning on catching up to the metal gear story. before i start MGS for Ps1. i have a few questions
-is the stealth action really boring like SplinterCell, thats one thing i hated. the gameplay and setting was boring.
-are there any action levels where detection doesnt matter, you just kill the enemies?
-does the ps3 upscale MGS and MGS2 alot?
Screamin_EaGLes

-is the stealth action really boring like SplinterCell, thats one thing i hated. the gameplay and setting was boring.
I cant say I've played Splinter Cell but personally I found the gameplay in the mgs games to be quite fun, such as using dirty magazines to distract guards or hiding in a cardboard box etc. The settings are good too especially in mgs3, the other 2 are indoor infiltration type things with afew outdoor experiences but usually indoors but the settings are still cool, you can hide in lockers and stuff etc.... I cant really say if the setting is good or not depends on you the player.

-are there any action levels where detection doesnt matter, you just kill the enemies?
Yep there sure is, and its pretty damn fun when you reach them parts of the games. So yeah in short this game does allow you to go all out guns blazing in some parts which is part of the story.

-does the ps3 upscale MGS and MGS2 alot?
Yep the PS3 can upscale MGS and MGS2 and even MGS3 if you like... dont know what you mean by "alot" tho... but it does upscale like it would a normal DVD.

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#6 Screamin_EaGLes
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where did you get mgs1 for the ps1RENE2315

ebay, cant find it in stores anymore
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#7 RENE2315
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what made you play the metal gear series because of the new metal gear solid 4 tailer
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#8 Screamin_EaGLes
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and i want to know the story. i only bought it for like 6 bucks.
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thanks, i heard MGS and MGS2 show you alot of non-lethal guns such as tranqs. but you dont use alot of lethal weapons. is that true?Screamin_EaGLes

kind of, you still get machine guns and rocket launchers.  It's just easier to use the tranqs because they are quiet, but it's really up to you
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#10 EMERlCa6969
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Also play the games in the intended order. Really MGS3 comes first in the time line. Then play MGS and MGS2.

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#11 Screamin_EaGLes
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after i play MGS3, wouldnt i see a big graphic loss when i go back to MGS1?
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#12 EMERlCa6969
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It isn't that big of a deal. I haven't had any problems with it. Besides, the games are just fun to play all around. So the order and graphics shouldn't matter, it is all just fun.
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#13 BIGKILLA
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If you care about big graphical changes, then I'd say just start with the way they were released.
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#14 RENE2315
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then just buy the twin snake for gamecube
after i play MGS3, wouldnt i see a big graphic loss when i go back to MGS1?Screamin_EaGLes
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#15 Screamin_EaGLes
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i dont care about graphics that much, but i jsut wanna play them in order so i wont get confused as i move further down the line. so MGS3, MGS, MGS2??
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after i play MGS3, wouldnt i see a big graphic loss when i go back to MGS1?Screamin_EaGLes

You definitely will. Not just graphically but also the control. In MGS 1, the control is kinda simple when compared to MGS3.

My advice is, start with MGS1 then 2 then 3.

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[QUOTE="RENE2315"]where did you get mgs1 for the ps1Screamin_EaGLes

ebay, cant find it in stores anymore

go to amazon, theres a bunch of them on sale, and u dont have to bid, u can buy mgs 1 for ps1 for only 17bucks with 2.99 shipping

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#18 Screamin_EaGLes
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[QUOTE="Screamin_EaGLes"]after i play MGS3, wouldnt i see a big graphic loss when i go back to MGS1?Thomas-Crown

You definitely will. Not just graphically but also the control. In MGS 1, the control is kinda simple when compared to MGS3.

My advice is, start with MGS1 then 2 then 3.


alright thanks, also are the MGS games hard?? i remember when i played splinter cell i would always get caught or get stuck.
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#19 Ado-odA
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MGS is waaaaayy less stealthy than SC.

In MGS (depending on difficulty) you can choose the stealth way or you can just run out and shoot/knife enemies down.

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#20 SKHuskie
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MGS has different difficulty settings doesn't it?

Enjoy this awesome series of games. MGS4 is going to rock.

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#21 Screamin_EaGLes
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MGS is waaaaayy less stealthy than SC.

In MGS (depending on difficulty) you can choose the stealth way or you can just run out and shoot/knife enemies down.

Ado-odA

oh that's cool, i actually have a choice. thats the thing, when i think of stealth games i think of boring sam fisher.
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#22 sonydbz
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Play it the way it was released. MGS 1 -> MGS 2 -> MGS 3. You will be confused if you start with 3 and then going to 1. There is a huge graphical difference with 1... HUGE!!! When I first played it after Zelda: OoT, I thought the graphics were horrible and the game sucked. But thanks to Kojima, I found that graphics isn't the most important thing and now I like how it was made for that time.
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#23 treelog187
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Definitely play them in order 1, 2, 3 whoever said otherwise obviously does not understand story presentation. The most impacting moments of MGS3 wont make any sense if you play it first. Basically after playing 1 and 2, 3 will give you insight into things the previous games only hinted to.

Also MGS gameplay is what you make it for the most part. MGS1 puts you in the most "must be stealthy situations" but gives some big guns and action as well. MGS2 starts to give a little more freestyle play once you acquire the right weapons, and MGS3 gives you wealth of freedom in terms of how to handle situations. All the games have a great balance of stealth and action, and you will probably play them more than once.

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#24 mountain_duwe
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Also play the games in the intended order. Really MGS3 comes first in the time line. Then play MGS and MGS2.

EMERlCa6969

I don't know about that...there are things in MGS3 that if you played the first two before that, made you go "oooohhhh". I don't wanna spoil, but you should get the picture.

I say play MGS1 first because it's an all-time classic and my favorite in the entire series.

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#25 HiImUPSMan
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if you really want to know the whole story start off with MG>MG2SolidSnake>MGS1>MGS2>MGS3:D
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#26 solidsnaketight
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play 1,2, and then 3 also what ver of 3 did you get?
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#27 sixringz1
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yeah 3 might be number one in terms of timeline but you should play them in order of release (MGS, MGS2, MGS3). That way when you get to three and you see things it's almost like a flashback or something.
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#28 Screamin_EaGLes
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i got subsistence but i really hate 2D games.
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#29 HiImUPSMan
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i got subsistence but i really hate 2D games.Screamin_EaGLes

in that case just start off with MGS1 then

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#30 sixringz1
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subsistence is supposed to be the better one cause it offers another camera angles as well as the original metal gear msx games. I personally don't see the point in the subsistance games if you have the original. It's like having an original song then making a remix. I guess konami knows they can make a rack more money if they rerelease the same game with a couple extra features. I don't know. Enjoy the games. I know i'm ready for 4
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#31 babystapler
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Play them in the order they released:

MGS1
MGS2
MGS3

Going to MGS after playing 2 or 3 would be like riding a Huffy beach-cruiser after learning to ride a Kawasaki Ninja.

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#32 jackle2071
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a good way to describe MGS's stelth is. think of it like Arcade stelth plenty of rumor for error and once you get it down you will feel like a bad ass! Also play the games in order. MGS1,MGS2, then MGS3 don't start with 3 i really dont recomend it. this is the way Kojima intened you to play! but what ever you decide to do enjoy!
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#33 huy303
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What's with all these questions? Just play them and find out for your self :roll:

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#34 djHaQ
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The game order in which the events happen chronologically in the Metal Gear series are as follows:

  • Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
  • Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
  • Metal Gear
  • Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake
  • Metal Gear Solid / Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes (remake of MGS)
  • Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
  • Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
If you're just playing the Metal Gear Solid games, play MGS, MGS2, and then MGS3. MGS3 takes place a lot longer in the past than the first MGS. "Naked Snake" (or "Big Boss") in MGS3 is NOT "Solid Snake." They are both codenames, and the fact that the voices sound exactly the same are purely coincidence, since they have no relation.
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#35 RahKayne
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i just got all 3 MGS and i'm planning on catching up to the metal gear story. before i start MGS for Ps1. i have a few questions
-is the stealth action really boring like SplinterCell, thats one thing i hated. the gameplay and setting was boring.
-are there any action levels where detection doesnt matter, you just kill the enemies?
-does the ps3 upscale MGS and MGS2 alot?
Screamin_EaGLes

MGS

was the first game that had the "peek around the corner" move, after that everyone else copied it.

you can be stealth and save health for boss battles, or you can be gun-ho however they call their buddies and in some boards you just die.

In MGS2 if you set it to hard if you are seen it's OVER!!!

I like MGS2 the most , all MGS's have great boss battles. The gameplay isn't boring abd the cut scenes are rewarding and carry the story. I didnt play MGS3 cause I'm an idiot however the order of them goes MGS3 then MGS then MGS2 then MGS4 so really I haven't missed too much.

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#36 Screamin_EaGLes
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The game order in which the events happen chronologically in the Metal Gear series are as follows:

  • Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
  • Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
  • Metal Gear
  • Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake
  • Metal Gear Solid / Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes (remake of MGS)
  • Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
  • Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
If you're just playing the Metal Gear Solid games, play MGS, MGS2, and then MGS3. MGS3 takes place a lot longer in the past than the first MGS. "Naked Snake" (or "Big Boss") in MGS3 is NOT "Solid Snake." They are both codenames, and the fact that the voices sound exactly the same are purely coincidence, since they have no relation.
djHaQ

how come they look both exactly alike?
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#37 jackle2071
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[QUOTE="djHaQ"]

The game order in which the events happen chronologically in the Metal Gear series are as follows:

  • Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
  • Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
  • Metal Gear
  • Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake
  • Metal Gear Solid / Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes (remake of MGS)
  • Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
  • Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
If you're just playing the Metal Gear Solid games, play MGS, MGS2, and then MGS3. MGS3 takes place a lot longer in the past than the first MGS. "Naked Snake" (or "Big Boss") in MGS3 is NOT "Solid Snake." They are both codenames, and the fact that the voices sound exactly the same are purely coincidence, since they have no relation.
Screamin_EaGLes

how come they look both exactly alike?

i say the above gives you all the info you need! i say stop READING NOW and go play before some one spoils somthing for you!
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#38 djHaQ
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how come they look both exactly alike?
Screamin_EaGLes

lol. Okay, I kid. Play MGS series in order of release (1,2,3) and you should be able to find the relation between the two. =D

Have fun. I loved these games and can't WAIT for MGS4!

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#39 Screamin_EaGLes
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unfortunately i have to wait until monday, dont get my hdmi cables until then
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i just got all 3 MGS and i'm planning on catching up to the metal gear story. before i start MGS for Ps1. i have a few questions
-is the stealth action really boring like SplinterCell, thats one thing i hated. the gameplay and setting was boring.
-are there any action levels where detection doesnt matter, you just kill the enemies?
-does the ps3 upscale MGS and MGS2 alot?
Screamin_EaGLes

-is the stealth action really boring like SplinterCell, thats one thing i hated. the gameplay and setting was boring.

In MGS for the PS you will find less action and more stealth though you can hit the crap out of almost everyone, except for the parts that are stealth alone. MGS2 and MGS3 give you more freedom, and will let you make almost the entire game at your pace, be it pure action, stealth, or a mix.

-are there any action levels where detection doesnt matter, you just kill the enemies?

Yes, in some parts you will have to kill everyone around, in the same way, in some parts you will have to avoid detection. be ware that since MGS2, guards have an smarter AI and will look for traces of you, such as footsteps, sounds etc.

-does the ps3 upscale MGS and MGS2 alot?

No. It does clean them up a bit but dont expect anything WOW!

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#41 mountain_duwe
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[QUOTE="Screamin_EaGLes"]i just got all 3 MGS and i'm planning on catching up to the metal gear story. before i start MGS for Ps1. i have a few questions
-is the stealth action really boring like SplinterCell, thats one thing i hated. the gameplay and setting was boring.
-are there any action levels where detection doesnt matter, you just kill the enemies?
-does the ps3 upscale MGS and MGS2 alot?
kenshinhimura16

-are there any action levels where detection doesnt matter, you just kill the enemies?

No. It does clean them up a bit but dont expect anything WOW!

Um, yes there are. All I'll say is, without spoiling anything--comm tower, freight elevator, tanker holds, arsenal...get me?

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#42 kenshinhimura16
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[QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"]

[QUOTE="Screamin_EaGLes"]i just got all 3 MGS and i'm planning on catching up to the metal gear story. before i start MGS for Ps1. i have a few questions
-is the stealth action really boring like SplinterCell, thats one thing i hated. the gameplay and setting was boring.
-are there any action levels where detection doesnt matter, you just kill the enemies?
-does the ps3 upscale MGS and MGS2 alot?
mountain_duwe

-are there any action levels where detection doesnt matter, you just kill the enemies?

No. It does clean them up a bit but dont expect anything WOW!

Um, yes there are. All I'll say is, without spoiling anything--comm tower, freight elevator, tanker holds, arsenal...get me?

Upps, the paste and copy worked against me lol, gonna change it now XD

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#43 solidsnaketight
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i agree with mountain_duwe