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#1 gregbmil
Member since 2004 • 2703 Posts

I got it from my sister for Christmas. Is it really as bad as some people say?

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#2 Adziboy
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Yeah.
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#3 dok_dx
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Your sister does not love you at all. ;)
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#4 hazelnutman
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lol, I'm sure your sister didn't have any intention of getting you a bad game, TC. ...either that, or she did a profound amount of research to pick out a game you would enjoy the least. Sibling rivalries at its finest.
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#5 raven_squad
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In my opinion, it's nowhere near as bad as it's cracked up to be if you have patience with it.
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#6 Viper_GTS-R
Member since 2004 • 4454 Posts
I got the game for 10$ at Wal Mart 3 months ago...in my 15 years of playing video games it has to rank in the top 5 of worst games I've ever played..I tried to play it,had a little fun with it then the HORRIBLE controls kicked in..haven't played it since.I feel bad for Factor 5 they go from the awesome game that was Star Wars Rogue Squadron 3 to this.
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#7 POPEYE1716
Member since 2003 • 4749 Posts

I bought it played for 30 minutes have not played it since.

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#8 bundymatic
Member since 2004 • 133 Posts

I wanted to like it, I really did but it just sucks big time

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#9 Arctic_Grillz
Member since 2008 • 2749 Posts
Its bad! I wasted my time renting it.
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#10 bloodling
Member since 2006 • 5822 Posts

Just look at this thread. (about Lair)

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#11 paperdollparade
Member since 2007 • 1915 Posts

It's not as bad as people say it is. you just have to spend some time learning the sixaxis controls. playing with the analog controls is terrible imo.

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#12 abd_alazeez2002
Member since 2005 • 328 Posts
npt that bad but the nice thing is that u can play by the sixaxis to move
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#13 Javieralijandro
Member since 2009 • 2667 Posts
HAZE is MW2 when compared to Lair.
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#14 XxTerryH15xX
Member since 2008 • 172 Posts

well i got gundam crossfire from my mom Cant be as bad as that game!

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#15 92GreenYJ
Member since 2006 • 482 Posts
Yeah I gotta be honest, I was stoked on this game when it came out, couldn't wait to get it. Played thru the first level and it hasn't gone back into my PS3 since. MAJOR letdown!!!
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#16 kweeni
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In Lair, you fly on dragons.
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#17 Flame_Blade88
Member since 2005 • 39348 Posts
If you have no problems with SIXAXIS controls like me, Lair isn't near as bad as most people say it is.
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#18 LightR
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Yeah I gotta be honest, I was stoked on this game when it came out, couldn't wait to get it. Played thru the first level and it hasn't gone back into my PS3 since. MAJOR letdown!!!92GreenYJ
I did the same thing but I atleast got to about the 5th level.
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#19 gregbmil
Member since 2004 • 2703 Posts

LOL, I just played about a half-hour of it and I think I've had enough of Lair. Well, I guess it's back to Demon's Souls before the white tendency week is up!!

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#20 ASRCSR
Member since 2008 • 2793 Posts

why don't you just play it?

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#21 budboarder
Member since 2005 • 2304 Posts

Change the controls to analog and its a pretty good game. They tried something new, and it didnt work out too well. They patched it to allow analog controls and that made it a decent game. Not great, but definitely playable. Also even with the sixaxis controls, its not even close to the worst game ive ever played. Maybe for young kid gamers its bad, but others of us have been gaming for 20+ years and have some stories to tell.

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#22 DethSkematik
Member since 2008 • 3900 Posts

I got it from my sister for Christmas. Is it really as bad as some people say?

gregbmil
It's not as bad as they say, but the first thing you should do is log onto PSN, and download the analog control patch ;). (I seriously HATED the Sixaxis controls)).
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#23 TheTenth10
Member since 2006 • 3087 Posts

I used the Sixaxis movement with no porblems, only the targeting was broken but it was patched.

I liked the game but got stuck at the sea serpent (maybe lvl 6 or 7)

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#24 thunderf00t
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It's terrible. Even with the analog controls patch, it's nigh unplayable. Doesn't look anywhere near as good as people said it did, either. LOL, Factor 4.5, LOL!!!11! Sorry, had a flashback to when the game came out. Factor 5 really did end up being a one trick pony, though. I couldn't find any redeeming qualities anywhere in the game, good luck to you.
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#25 mlbslugger86
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damn your sister must really hate u

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#26 Fantasticus
Member since 2009 • 666 Posts
i could never play Lair b/c people say it's horrible...
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#27 Bloody_Demons
Member since 2003 • 219 Posts

I got it from my sister for Christmas. Is it really as bad as some people say?

gregbmil

Never got around to buying or playing lair for that matter...my friend had it and said it was real stupid...i think he got rid of it about a week or 2 later

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#28 Treflis
Member since 2004 • 13757 Posts
Instead of listening to others opinion, why don't you play it and then form your own opinion about the game?
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#29 Rhen_Var
Member since 2006 • 12422 Posts
Bah, it's probably just you guys. I for one enjoyed Sonic The Hedgehog (And I mean the 2006 one). I've been looking at this game for awhile just for the dragons.
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#30 Ultrabeatdown55
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I still don't understand the hate for this game. I have it and I thoroughly enjoyed both play throughs. I had absolutely no problems with the flight controls with the Sixaxis and when they added joystick functionality I played it again, also with no problems.

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#31 shadowkiller11
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I still don't understand the hate for this game. I have it and I thoroughly enjoyed both play throughs. I had absolutely no problems with the flight controls with the Sixaxis and when they added joystick functionality I played it again, also with no problems.

Ultrabeatdown55
Basically this.
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#32 Abecale
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In Lair, you fly on dragons.kweeni

In lair, you fly dragons and attack things.

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#33 M0wen10
Member since 2009 • 7555 Posts

From what I've seen, yes

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#34 lightleggy
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I got it from my sister for Christmas. Is it really as bad as some people say?

gregbmil
omg...your sister doesnt love you! my sister and I love each other so she gave me 20 bucks ^^
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#35 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="kweeni"]In Lair, you fly on dragons.Abecale

In lair, you fly dragons and attack things.

in lair, you fly dragons, attack things while you suffer from dreadfull controllers with even more dreafull graphics that are even able to be recreated on the wii
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#36 GeoffZak
Member since 2007 • 3715 Posts

It's not a bad game, it's enjoyable. But I don't think I'll be buying it anytime soon.

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#37 gamenerd15
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This game really wasn't that bad in 07. It was not the worst game or anywhere near as bad as most people or revies said it was. The controls aren't the best but they aren't the worst if you get used to it. The biggest problems I had were figuring out the little things that meant a lot in this game. The fire balls for instance. If you mash the button the dragon shoots little ones, but if you wait a couple of seconds and then press square, he shoots a big one. The big fire ball is essential to defeating the first major boss in the game. Doing the 180 turn around was rather simple if you learned how to do it right. If dipped the controller down and then immediatelay up, it did the move 90% of the time. If you just held the controller and jerked up, no it would not work. I would easily give the game a 7 back then maybe a 6 today because it's been a couple of years. The biggest problem with the game are the missions. It's kind of the same thing in each level for the most part, It's always something like destroy the bad guys attacking the mantas or turrets, or something of that nature. The physical fighting was a bit dumb. It was cool that you could unlock new moves, but they were just longer combo variations of the moves already there. They had all the ideas to make a great a game. If they thought up different style missions while tightening the controls, it would have been a pretty cool game.

Factor 5 was the first company to realize that if you make the PS3 first and then port to 360, you will get good results on both platforms, so I wouldn't say that they are a crappy company for one bad game. Factor 5 are not one trick pony's. They made Turrican way before Rogue Squadron even came out so I don't know where that is coming from.

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#38 GameHog9
Member since 2008 • 1052 Posts

I like it. Controls were actually easy

Anyone who says otherwise obviously didnt redo the tutorial ;)

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#39 tydus121212
Member since 2007 • 125 Posts

Nice... I hope you enjoy it much more than I did

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#40 crashndash
Member since 2007 • 1171 Posts
Your sister does not love you at all. ;)dok_dx
Hahahahahahahahahahaha perfect words
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#41 lightleggy
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I like it. Controls were actually easy

Anyone who says otherwise obviously didnt redo the tutorial ;)

GameHog9
your definitly talking about analog controller (when the game first camed out, you could only use sixaxis to move, the devs realized that was bullcrap and they released a patch to allow you to play with analogs as well)
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#42 gamenerd15
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[QUOTE="GameHog9"]

I like it. Controls were actually easy

Anyone who says otherwise obviously didnt redo the tutorial ;)

lightleggy

your definitly talking about analog controller (when the game first camed out, you could only use sixaxis to move, the devs realized that was bullcrap and they released a patch to allow you to play with analogs as well)

Not every who played the game thought that. They were people early on who said if you practiced the controls. I happen to agree with them. The control weren't perfect but if you put in acouple of hours practice, you shouldn't have had much to deal with. Just because a game takes more than 5 minutes to learn how to play does not make it a bad game. I was also skeptical when I read all the bad reviews but then after watching people on youtube play it and showed how they controlled everything, I decided "hey screw it does not look that bad to me." Despite how I feel about most reviews, GameInformer actually had the most accurate one of them all for Lair.

P.S. Stop going into these threads and saying negative things, first Dante's Inferno and now this. It's fine to offer your opinion but to keep saying everyone is wrongbecause of theirs is just a waste. If you don't like something, say it and move on.

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#43 Revixe06
Member since 2008 • 1021 Posts

Your sister does not love you at all. ;)dok_dx
lol

Yes, this game is horrible.

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#44 Eazy1891
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Change the controls to analog and its a pretty good game. They tried something new, and it didnt work out too well. They patched it to allow analog controls and that made it a decent game. Not great, but definitely playable. Also even with the sixaxis controls, its not even close to the worst game ive ever played. Maybe for young kid gamers its bad, but others of us have been gaming for 20+ years and have some stories to tell.

budboarder

im with this guy....i dont have 20+ years under my belt but im no rookie....ive played some terrible terrible games....alot of the games out this gen that are considered bad like Lair and Haze arent really that bad actually average compared to things on PS2, PS1, Sega Dreamcast, NES and so on and so forth days....oh and Atari omg....

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#45 Ultrabeatdown55
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[QUOTE="GameHog9"]

I like it. Controls were actually easy

Anyone who says otherwise obviously didnt redo the tutorial ;)

lightleggy
your definitly talking about analog controller (when the game first camed out, you could only use sixaxis to move, the devs realized that was bullcrap and they released a patch to allow you to play with analogs as well)

It wasn't bull crap. They do actually work. You probably got frustrated and decided that it was crap because you were bad at it. Or my other theory is that you haven't played it all and you are just riding the hate train because I see you doing nothing else on these forums...
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#46 Eazy1891
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="GameHog9"]

I like it. Controls were actually easy

Anyone who says otherwise obviously didnt redo the tutorial ;)

Ultrabeatdown55

your definitly talking about analog controller (when the game first camed out, you could only use sixaxis to move, the devs realized that was bullcrap and they released a patch to allow you to play with analogs as well)

It wasn't bull crap. They do actually work. You probably got frustrated and decided that it was crap because you were bad at it. Or my other theory is that you haven't played it all and you are just riding the hate train because I see you doing nothing else on these forums...

usually dont agree with this guy but cant deny that hes right when it comes to this....people dont welcome change very well thats the main thing you hear about KZ2 other than its not so great story...i see a lot of people wanting everything to come so natural to them...well sometimes thins cant go that way...kinda like how Demons Souls really isnt even that hard of a game you just have to use skill...and people wanna be able to sit back in there computer chair with a bag of chips and 2 liter of soda in their home made compartments in the chair with their big belly hanging out of their shirt...well sorry people gaming has changed....damn i should put that in a blog

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#47 Ultrabeatdown55
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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] your definitly talking about analog controller (when the game first camed out, you could only use sixaxis to move, the devs realized that was bullcrap and they released a patch to allow you to play with analogs as well)Eazy1891

It wasn't bull crap. They do actually work. You probably got frustrated and decided that it was crap because you were bad at it. Or my other theory is that you haven't played it all and you are just riding the hate train because I see you doing nothing else on these forums...

usually dont agree with this guy but cant deny that hes right when it comes to this....people dont welcome change very well thats the main thing you hear about KZ2 other than its not so great story...i see a lot of people wanting everything to come so natural to them...well sometimes thins cant go that way...kinda like how Demons Souls really isnt even that hard of a game you just have to use skill...and people wanna be able to sit back in there computer chair with a bag of chips and 2 liter of soda in their home made compartments in the chair with their big belly hanging out of their shirt...well sorry people gaming has changed....damn i should put that in a blog

Wait, do you agree with me or lightleggy?

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#48 realistic44
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You think thats bad i just got rogue warrior on the day of its release and i still have it :(