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#1 Nedemis
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I seriously don't get this. U2 is quite possibly one of the best games to come out this gen and yet I've NEVER seen the "online players" number go higher then 13,000. I'm at a loss at how such a great game that received SO much hype here at GS and many other sites could have so few online. What's your take?

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#2 Ratchet_Fan8
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I loved the MP,fun and addicring UNTILL! Stupid DOGS screwed up the online with the crap penelty,im sorry,i dont Find 3 v.s 5 fun,OR a n000b at COOP fun AT ALL! i wanna quit! *lost 40k*
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I've wondered the same thing myself. I just figure that after Christmas that number is going to go through the roof.

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#4 bsman00
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I seriously don't get this. U2 is quite possibly one of the best games to come out this gen and yet I've NEVER seen the "online players" number go higher then 13,000. I'm at a loss at how such a great game that received SO much hype here at GS and many other sites could have so few online. What's your take?

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i like MP... it just kinda got old.... MW2 here i come!
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#5 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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I'm still playing single player. I probably won't even touch multiplayer until I've got all the single player medals. Plus, I'm not a big online gamer anyway.

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#6 snackdaddy
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I'm also not a huge online gamer, I'll play Halo and Battlefield and Modern Warfare, but definitely, not why I buy a game. I think I have seen the total online population around 11k before, very surprising. I think the online is great for the most part. It's the other people that tend to ruin it. Now I am just working on my last metal, finishing the game on crushing. That'll likely keep me busy until WF2. :)

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#7 danimal233
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I wonder that too, but I think it has to do with the fact that people bought this game for single player and are still working on beating it/getting platinum. I play online occasionally but I will play it a lot more once I get platinum. I have never seen more than 15k online, which is very low considering they sold a lor of copies when it came out and WaW still has 40k online every day. I think its just that there are better online games out there, U2 is nothing special (online)

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#8 zmbi_gmr
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the highest i've seen was 12,800 ppl i think. i'm still playing through the game so i'm not to conserned w/ the MP until i go through on crushing which could be a little while. might try for a platinum (which i think i will need MP to obtain) great game...

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#9 ryrulez
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I've wondered the same thing myself. I just figure that after Christmas that number is going to go through the roof.

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I think it will be quite the opposite.
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[QUOTE="thebisonx"]

I've wondered the same thing myself. I just figure that after Christmas that number is going to go through the roof.

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I think it will be quite the opposite.

That would be assuming that Uncharted 2 won't be a big Christmas seller, which is very unlikely.
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#11 MarcRecon
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Well, as long as it's not totally dead...don't sweat it.:) I haven't gotten it yet, but you can add me to your PSN friends list.

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[QUOTE="ryrulez"][QUOTE="thebisonx"]

I've wondered the same thing myself. I just figure that after Christmas that number is going to go through the roof.

thebisonx
I think it will be quite the opposite.

That would be assuming that Uncharted 2 won't be a big Christmas seller, which is very unlikely.

Compared to the amount of copies of Modern Warfare 2 that are going to be flying off the shelves, I think Uncharted 2's sales figures will be quite bleak.
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="thebisonx"][QUOTE="ryrulez"] I think it will be quite the opposite.

That would be assuming that Uncharted 2 won't be a big Christmas seller, which is very unlikely.

Compared to the amount of copies of Modern Warfare 2 that are going to be flying off the shelves, I think Uncharted 2's sales figures will be quite bleak.

Yeah modern warfare 2 will kill uncharted 2's multiplyer.
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the game was over hyped and now your seeing the after affects.
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[QUOTE="ryrulez"][QUOTE="raven_squad"][QUOTE="thebisonx"] That would be assuming that Uncharted 2 won't be a big Christmas seller, which is very unlikely.

Compared to the amount of copies of Modern Warfare 2 that are going to be flying off the shelves, I think Uncharted 2's sales figures will be quite bleak.

Yeah modern warfare 2 will kill uncharted 2's multiplyer.

I'm not saying that Uncharted 2's sales will match Modern Warfare 2's. Obviously, that won't be the case. What I'm saying is that Uncharted 2 will sell considerable amounts during the Christmas season, which will boost online activity post-Christmas.
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I'm sorry, but I couldn't get into the MP of U2, IMO it's just plain boring, loved to get trough the story once tough :/

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#17 SoAmazingBaby
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havn't played the game yet, but i preordered it lol :)
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#18 verbalfilth
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They're probably playing other good games. A lot of games have come out these past two months.. I haven't had a chance to sit down and fully explore any game I've bought these past two months. All I've given them is one playthrough and then moved on to the next game.
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[QUOTE="thebisonx"][QUOTE="ryrulez"][QUOTE="raven_squad"] Compared to the amount of copies of Modern Warfare 2 that are going to be flying off the shelves, I think Uncharted 2's sales figures will be quite bleak.

Yeah modern warfare 2 will kill uncharted 2's multiplyer.

I'm not saying that Uncharted 2's sales will match Modern Warfare 2's. Obviously, that won't be the case. What I'm saying is that Uncharted 2 will sell considerable amounts during the Christmas season, which will boost online activity post-Christmas.

What I'm saying is, I personally think that anyone looking for an online experience will not pay Uncharted 2's multiplayer a second thought with MW2 on the horizon. I don't expect the multiplayer community to see any gain at all.
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#20 machiavell8x8
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yep and imagine how much better single player would have been if they hadnt wasted theres and our time and money on mp
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it doesent show every 1 online just a small portion. me and my freind had a comparision at the same time and it showed way different numbers

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#22 Black-October
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the game was over hyped and now your seeing the after affects.machiavell8x8

Huh? The game was overhyped? Quite the contrary. Yes the game was hyped by many, but the general consensus agree (myself included) that the game delivered precisely what the developers promised. The multiplayer was just an added bonus, not to mention for Naughty Dogs first attempt at online multiplayer I think they did a fabulous job. Sure it's gets old after a while, but what game (in general) doesn't?

yep and imagine how much better single player would have been if they hadnt wasted theres and our time and money on mpmachiavell8x8

I'm curious. What didn't you like about the campaign that warrants such a bold statement? I thought the campaign was stupendous. I loved ever moment of it. I don't feel like Naughty Dog wasted theirs or our time and money on the multiplayer because it's one of the best online experiences on the PS3 and in no way did it compromise the single player. You may have overhyped the game, but in no way did Naughty Dog fall short of what was promised. If you feel the game was overhyped and that the single player suffered then it's because you and you alone expected more then the developer promised.

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#23 360hammer
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it doesent show every 1 online just a small portion. me and my freind had a comparision at the same time and it showed way different numbers

MclovinKilledU

This, I don't think the number you see is a total as I too showed a different number than a friend.

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I'm so stoked for the multiplayer at the moment. 149 wins, 29 losses so far. Level 42 and 2 mil cash :D IM ADDICTED
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I dont know about you guys, but i play it almost everyday, is very fun and addictive . I bet if this game was on the 360 it would ve been one of the most played on live .....
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#26 omarsh94
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The online didn't work for me, when i try to find a match nothing appears no room no players it just wont let me play lol. Anyways i am too busy with MW2 right now and for the next 5 months.

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[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"]the game was over hyped and now your seeing the after affects.Black-October

Huh? The game was overhyped? Quite the contrary. Yes the game was hyped by many, but the general consensus agree (myself included) that the game delivered precisely what the developers promised. The multiplayer was just an added bonus, not to mention for Naughty Dogs first attempt at online multiplayer I think they did a fabulous job. Sure it's gets old after a while, but what game (in general) doesn't?

yep and imagine how much better single player would have been if they hadnt wasted theres and our time and money on mpmachiavell8x8

I'm curious. What didn't you like about the campaign that warrants such a bold statement? I thought the campaign was stupendous. I loved ever moment of it. I don't feel like Naughty Dog wasted theirs or our time and money on the multiplayer because it's one of the best online experiences on the PS3 and in no way did it compromise the single player. You may have overhyped the game, but in no way did Naughty Dog fall short of what was promised. If you feel the game was overhyped and that the single player suffered then it's because you and you alone expected more then the developer promised.

the game couldn't be any more hyped so how could it be to the contrary at all? you say the multiplayer was an added bonus, thats funny how people say that with this game as if that lets it off the hook review wise...sorry doesn't work like that. it clearly deserves to get points docked for the subpar multiplayer. they added it to get people to buy the game....so clearly those that were influenced by that asspect were sadly disapointed. how did it not compromise the single player, do you not understand time and material? they spent money producing multiplayer, hence its very easy to see how that time and money could have made the single player much better. so it clearly did compromise the single player. and how did i overhype the game? ive been saying its been overhyped long before it was ever released! and no the single player suffered because thats a FACT. all the time they put into the multiplayer could have given us all a longer campaign and various other things. games that are made for multiplayer are the games that people play, and when MW2 hits nobody will ever look back at uncharted MP. and thats a fact. unless your just bored, and in that case you'll just find yourself in worse shape. so now its your turn, what makes uncharted 2's MP better than MW, MW2, resistance 2, and MGS4 online. i myself can think of NOTHING.
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I think people here on GS underestimate how many people bought Uncharted 2 almost exclusively for the campaign and have no interest in online play at all. Maybe some people still aren't done with the campaign - hey, I didn't play online very much at all before I got the platinum trophy, andI would still enjoy yet another play through of the campaign because it's just so damn good.

Maybe people just don't like the multiplayer. There are plenty of games out now, so if someone tried it and didn't like it right away or just sucked, they would probably not give it a chance and move on to another game. The terrifyingly unbalanced matchmaking system doesn't help this problem either ... if Naughty Dog fixes this, I can see the multiplayer becoming much more popular.

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#29 abdelmessih101
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[QUOTE="360hammer"]

[QUOTE="MclovinKilledU"]

it doesent show every 1 online just a small portion. me and my freind had a comparision at the same time and it showed way different numbers

This, I don't think the number you see is a total as I too showed a different number than a friend.

I've been hearing this on the forums, which suggests that the number given is the people on the server that you're playing on ... but then again, that fails to explain why I've played with people from Sweden and non-english speaking players as well just yesterday.
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[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"][QUOTE="Black-October"]

[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"]

Huh? The game was overhyped? Quite the contrary. Yes the game was hyped by many, but the general consensus agree (myself included) that the game delivered precisely what the developers promised. The multiplayer was just an added bonus, not to mention for Naughty Dogs first attempt at online multiplayer I think they did a fabulous job. Sure it's gets old after a while, but what game (in general) doesn't?

yep and imagine how much better single player would have been if they hadnt wasted theres and our time and money on mpmachiavell8x8

I'm curious. What didn't you like about the campaign that warrants such a bold statement? I thought the campaign was stupendous. I loved ever moment of it. I don't feel like Naughty Dog wasted theirs or our time and money on the multiplayer because it's one of the best online experiences on the PS3 and in no way did it compromise the single player. You may have overhyped the game, but in no way did Naughty Dog fall short of what was promised. If you feel the game was overhyped and that the single player suffered then it's because you and you alone expected more then the developer promised.

the game couldn't be any more hyped so how could it be to the contrary at all? you say the multiplayer was an added bonus, thats funny how people say that with this game as if that lets it off the hook review wise...sorry doesn't work like that. it clearly deserves to get points docked for the subpar multiplayer. they added it to get people to buy the game....so clearly those that were influenced by that asspect were sadly disapointed. how did it not compromise the single player, do you not understand time and material? they spent money producing multiplayer, hence its very easy to see how that time and money could have made the single player much better. so it clearly did compromise the single player. and how did i overhype the game? ive been saying its been overhyped long before it was ever released! and no the single player suffered because thats a FACT. all the time they put into the multiplayer could have given us all a longer campaign and various other things. games that are made for multiplayer are the games that people play, and when MW2 hits nobody will ever look back at uncharted MP. and thats a fact. unless your just bored, and in that case you'll just find yourself in worse shape. so now its your turn, what makes uncharted 2's MP better than MW, MW2, resistance 2, and MGS4 online. i myself can think of NOTHING.

First of all, the online play is anything but subpar. In fact, the only problems I've found are the following: grenades are somewhat overpowered, the melee recognition can be poor sometimes, and the matchmaking is terrible ... otherwise, it tops any other mutliplayer game I've played in terms of quality and fun. The maps are well designed, the guns are well-balanced and well-placed throughout the maps, the gunplay is smooth and satisfying, the perks are awesome and make an immediately noticeable difference in the game, and the traversal is just unmatched. Those are plenty of reasons why it's better that other online games. If you don't like it, that's completely fine, but don't just say the MP is subpar without giving any reason or evidence as to why you think so.
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[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"][QUOTE="Black-October"]

[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"]

Huh? The game was overhyped? Quite the contrary. Yes the game was hyped by many, but the general consensus agree (myself included) that the game delivered precisely what the developers promised. The multiplayer was just an added bonus, not to mention for Naughty Dogs first attempt at online multiplayer I think they did a fabulous job. Sure it's gets old after a while, but what game (in general) doesn't?

yep and imagine how much better single player would have been if they hadnt wasted theres and our time and money on mpmachiavell8x8

I'm curious. What didn't you like about the campaign that warrants such a bold statement? I thought the campaign was stupendous. I loved ever moment of it. I don't feel like Naughty Dog wasted theirs or our time and money on the multiplayer because it's one of the best online experiences on the PS3 and in no way did it compromise the single player. You may have overhyped the game, but in no way did Naughty Dog fall short of what was promised. If you feel the game was overhyped and that the single player suffered then it's because you and you alone expected more then the developer promised.

the game couldn't be any more hyped so how could it be to the contrary at all? you say the multiplayer was an added bonus, thats funny how people say that with this game as if that lets it off the hook review wise...sorry doesn't work like that. it clearly deserves to get points docked for the subpar multiplayer. they added it to get people to buy the game....so clearly those that were influenced by that asspect were sadly disapointed. how did it not compromise the single player, do you not understand time and material? they spent money producing multiplayer, hence its very easy to see how that time and money could have made the single player much better. so it clearly did compromise the single player. and how did i overhype the game? ive been saying its been overhyped long before it was ever released! and no the single player suffered because thats a FACT. all the time they put into the multiplayer could have given us all a longer campaign and various other things. games that are made for multiplayer are the games that people play, and when MW2 hits nobody will ever look back at uncharted MP. and thats a fact. unless your just bored, and in that case you'll just find yourself in worse shape. so now its your turn, what makes uncharted 2's MP better than MW, MW2, resistance 2, and MGS4 online. i myself can think of NOTHING.

You're speaking just from opinion.I and many others find the MP heaps of fun, and many reviews praised it.Just because YOU didnt like it, doesnt mean everyone else didnt either. And trust me, people will still be playing this online when MW2 is out.
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*Waits for christmas*
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#34 machiavell8x8
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apparently you didn't read what i wrote, where have i ever said the singleplayer was subpar? Ive clearly stated that the time they spent on multiplayer could have made the single player BETTER. im sure there's plenty of people who are thrilled with the multiplayer, and im also sure those same people don't have any of the other games i mentioned, and won't be buying MW2. altho there are always exceptions, but the point is clear, the masses will be playing MW2 NOT uncharted 2 MP. the matchmaking is a HUGE flaw, and its most likely not going to be fixed. p.s. ill say the MP is subpar as many times as i want without stating reasons if i want....as that is my opinion! i don't need specifics, i played all the games listed except MW2 of course, and when i play uncharted 2 that is how i feel! and uncharted 2 will have nothing on these newer dedicated MP games like MW2, hence there will be zero reason to play uncharted 2 MP. if the MP was actually some kind of compitition to these other games then sure....but its not. the game has been out for what a month? and people are already bored of the online play....and you guys who say it rocks even admited to being bored already....so how can you then denie that the MP is subpar....that makes ZERO sense. there's still people ENJOYING MW, prob more playing that than UC2 MP. so there's no way you can say UC2 is the best to date or even close in MP.
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#35 wwefanforlife
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I'm one of those people who will buy a game for it's story I enjoy playing games for it's single player but online MP is good for the extra value I like Uncharted 2 online but I play it for CO-OP which it's still fun I just wish I could find some team players. I don't really like playing the Deathmatches the boosters put me off people with a higher rank get to much of an advantage.

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#36 KzJoe
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I just wish they paid more attention to the Single Player... I have Killzone 2 for online!

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#37 Black-October
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[QUOTE="Black-October"]

[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"]

Huh? The game was overhyped? Quite the contrary. Yes the game was hyped by many, but the general consensus agree (myself included) that the game delivered precisely what the developers promised. The multiplayer was just an added bonus, not to mention for Naughty Dogs first attempt at online multiplayer I think they did a fabulous job. Sure it's gets old after a while, but what game (in general) doesn't?

[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"]yep and imagine how much better single player would have been if they hadnt wasted theres and our time and money on mpmachiavell8x8

I'm curious. What didn't you like about the campaign that warrants such a bold statement? I thought the campaign was stupendous. I loved ever moment of it. I don't feel like Naughty Dog wasted theirs or our time and money on the multiplayer because it's one of the best online experiences on the PS3 and in no way did it compromise the single player. You may have overhyped the game, but in no way did Naughty Dog fall short of what was promised. If you feel the game was overhyped and that the single player suffered then it's because you and you alone expected more then the developer promised.

the game couldn't be any more hyped so how could it be to the contrary at all? you say the multiplayer was an added bonus, thats funny how people say that with this game as if that lets it off the hook review wise...sorry doesn't work like that. it clearly deserves to get points docked for the subpar multiplayer. they added it to get people to buy the game....so clearly those that were influenced by that asspect were sadly disapointed. how did it not compromise the single player, do you not understand time and material? they spent money producing multiplayer, hence its very easy to see how that time and money could have made the single player much better. so it clearly did compromise the single player. and how did i overhype the game? ive been saying its been overhyped long before it was ever released! and no the single player suffered because thats a FACT. all the time they put into the multiplayer could have given us all a longer campaign and various other things. games that are made for multiplayer are the games that people play, and when MW2 hits nobody will ever look back at uncharted MP. and thats a fact. unless your just bored, and in that case you'll just find yourself in worse shape. so now its your turn, what makes uncharted 2's MP better than MW, MW2, resistance 2, and MGS4 online. i myself can think of NOTHING.

Might I ask; How does one overhype a game without first playing it? The focal point of the game had always been the single player campaign. The multiplayer was an added bonus and even Naughty Dog admitted to this. Naughty Dog wanted to experiment with multiplayer, but this "subpar" multiplayer isn't the breaking point of Among Thieves. Naughty Dog set a goal to deliver a bigger, better experience than it's predecessor and they did just that. The multiplayer didn't come into play until much later into development thus Naughty Dog hosted a beta. The general feedback was positive. After ironing out the bugs and polishing the game a second beta was then hosted for marketing purposes. For those that bought the game based solely on the multiplayer well that's their problem, but again it's not the breaking point. Naughty Dog delivered what they promised, and that's final.

So again I repeat that the single player campaign was not compromised in the least because of multiplayer. You apparently have no concept of marketing.

Your statement of them wasting your time, and spending your money (because I assume you included yourself in "our") is selfish and ignorant because guess what. The single player campaign would be EXACTLY the same without the multiplayer. Accept it or don't it's your choice, but don't come in here throwing the term "fact" around just nilly-willy without evidence.

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#38 maxx1458
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I thought the multiplayer was poor when I played the demo, but the more I play it now the more I like it.

I think it just takes some time to get used to it and then you really start to enjoy it.

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#39 spyroiskool
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In my opinion i thought the online was initially fun but then became sort of boring. I might have had more interest if I wasn't in both of the betas..

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#40 machiavell8x8
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It doesn't matter what naughty dog admits, and everyone knows the single player is the focal point....nobody has disputed that or said ANYTHING about it. if your going to call multiplayer a bonus then clearly your just arguing semantics and are to big to admit than the multiplayer is indeed subpar. being a bonus does NOT let it off the hook! this is easy to understand but clearly your just here to argue and annoy people. and apparently you have zero concept of time and material even AFTER it was pointed out. how on gods green earth to you think the singleplayer would be the same if they spent the time and material used on the multiplayer ->instead on the single player? FACT. DEVELOPING GAMES COSTS MONEY. FACT DEVELOPING MULTIPLAYER COSTS MONEY. FACT. THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT ON SINGLE PLAYER. SIMPLE CONCEPT. sorry for the all caps but i needed to make sure your reading as its been pointed out before so you can drop it already. your position holds zero ground and has been defeated. seriously your fighting a loosing battle and your fanboyism is showing. nobody's saying the game sucks here ok, i like the game i think its great. but your clearly over reacting and i might also say your over defending something that shouldn't be. the multiplayer is flawed and subpar to many games...to many people. and i know that the majority of people are on my side with this. MW2 will be king. and i bet MW is beating it right now so whats that tell you?
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It doesn't matter what naughty dog admits, and everyone knows the single player is the focal point....nobody has disputed that or said ANYTHING about it. if your going to call multiplayer a bonus then clearly your just arguing semantics and are to big to admit than the multiplayer is indeed subpar. being a bonus does NOT let it off the hook! this is easy to understand but clearly your just here to argue and annoy people. and apparently you have zero concept of time and material even AFTER it was pointed out. how on gods green earth to you think the singleplayer would be the same if they spent the time and material used on the multiplayer ->instead on the single player? FACT. DEVELOPING GAMES COSTS MONEY. FACT DEVELOPING MULTIPLAYER COSTS MONEY. FACT. THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT ON SINGLE PLAYER. SIMPLE CONCEPT. sorry for the all caps but i needed to make sure your reading as its been pointed out before so you can drop it already. your position holds zero ground and has been defeated. seriously your fighting a loosing battle and your fanboyism is showing. nobody's saying the game sucks here ok, i like the game i think its great. but your clearly over reacting and i might also say your over defending something that shouldn't be. the multiplayer is flawed and subpar to many games...to many people. and i know that the majority of people are on my side with this. MW2 will be king. and i bet MW is beating it right now so whats that tell you?machiavell8x8
Dude, in what way would SP be any different if there was no multiplayer? 10 extra chapters? get real.Naughty Dog would have had the story/gameplay set in stone from the beginning and they chose to make a MP ASWELL.They dont just go "oh look maybe we should add in MP.okay lets cut out these chapters,put less effort into graphics and gameplay.".The finished game is amazing, with 97 on metacritic and some of the best console graphics seen yet youre complaining because you ASSUME it could have been better just because it had a MP you didnt like?. And please stop hating on the MP and comparing it to MW2.Theyre completely different MP games.
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#42 patrickphan2
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For a super hyped game, i found myself asking the same question. If so many people love this game, why are there only about 15000(the most i've seen) online? But the single player is amazing though.

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#43 machiavell8x8
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during the development process all kinds of things get changed. Look at dragon age and see what they did...day one DLC. they spent money and time, to extend the game in some way or fashion. clearly they could have spent that time and money to improve the singleplayer. they can candy coat it all they want, but the bottom line is that money and time could have been spent on the single player....bottom line case closed. and yes no 2 games are alike....what else are we sopposed to compare to lol....would you prefer if i compare MP to SP or something lol. were talking about MP, so yes im going to compare it to other MP games. so sorry if you don't like that then optout of the discussion.
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during the development process all kinds of things get changed. Look at dragon age and see what they did...day one DLC. they spent money and time, to extend the game in some way or fashion. clearly they could have spent that time and money to improve the singleplayer. they can candy coat it all they want, but the bottom line is that money and time could have been spent on the single player....bottom line case closed. and yes no 2 games are alike....what else are we sopposed to compare to lol....would you prefer if i compare MP to SP or something lol. were talking about MP, so yes im going to compare it to other MP games. so sorry if you don't like that then optout of the discussion.machiavell8x8
The point is that uncharted 2s SP is 100% complete and polished to the best of their ability within reason (of course as with all games, some things/bugs can come up once the game is released).They already put as much effort into SP as they could.Do you want them to keep adding more crap to downgrade the quality of the game? because thats all it could have done. And MW is an extremely popular FPS.U2 is a TPS with platforming and a completely different gameplay style. PS your urgency to end this discussion only shows that you know you dont really have any valid points.
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It doesn't matter what naughty dog admits, and everyone knows the single player is the focal point....nobody has disputed that or said ANYTHING about it. if your going to call multiplayer a bonus then clearly your just arguing semantics and are to big to admit than the multiplayer is indeed subpar. being a bonus does NOT let it off the hook! this is easy to understand but clearly your just here to argue and annoy people. and apparently you have zero concept of time and material even AFTER it was pointed out. how on gods green earth to you think the singleplayer would be the same if they spent the time and material used on the multiplayer ->instead on the single player? FACT. DEVELOPING GAMES COSTS MONEY. FACT DEVELOPING MULTIPLAYER COSTS MONEY. FACT. THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT ON SINGLE PLAYER. SIMPLE CONCEPT. sorry for the all caps but i needed to make sure your reading as its been pointed out before so you can drop it already. your position holds zero ground and has been defeated. seriously your fighting a loosing battle and your fanboyism is showing. nobody's saying the game sucks here ok, i like the game i think its great. but your clearly over reacting and i might also say your over defending something that shouldn't be. the multiplayer is flawed and subpar to many games...to many people. and i know that the majority of people are on my side with this. MW2 will be king. and i bet MW is beating it right now so whats that tell you?machiavell8x8

I'll tell you what's subpar. Your grammar, bud. You're calling me a "fanboy"? Refer to the text highlighted in red.

Tells me you're fanboy.

You're missing the point altogether, and at that you're attempting to turn this into an intellectual debate. There is no arguement because the FACT is that Naughty Dog incorporated multiplayer much LATER in development. Simply put that even without the multiplayer the campaign would remain the same. Period. The multiplayer is as I've been saying ALL along; A bonus. Do you understand?

I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy the multiplayer, but to bash the game entirely on the basis of "subpar" multiplayer is ignorant. The multiplayer isn't perfect, but then again name a single game that's perfected multiplayer and I'll call you a liar because it's impossible. So stop complaining about the inevitable. In fact I'd appreciate it if you'd just stop posting in this thread altogether because your argument is baseless and then to call me a "fanboy"? It's really quite pathetic.

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the game was over hyped and now your seeing the after affects.machiavell8x8
Or a lot of people just purchased it for the amazing single player, just like with metal gear solid 4
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#47 machiavell8x8
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you can ALWAYS add more to a game, if you do it RIGHT. it could have even been something seperate as stated like DLC. there's lots of options and saying it would only degrade it only shows how much you actually think of this company and the gaming industry as a whole. i have no urgency to end the discussion, i only wish to end a debate on a subtopic that ive clearly undeniable already won. there is no way around it....all your doing is trying to do a little dance. money and time, in the hands of a good developer can only improve and add great things. your either a fool or a fanboy...take your pick. as to the other guy, this isn't school so take your grammar nazi tactic's somewhere else....unless your just here to soley annoy people in which case that wouldn't surprize me. and seeing the success of another game has nothing to do with being a fanboy. when you run around supporting a flawed MP thats when your a fanboy. it doesn't matter WHEN they put it in, it doesn't matter when they told you they put it in, it doesn't matter if they call it a "bonus" in an attempt to make people turn a blind eye to the flaws. all that matters is they spent time and money to do it, and i don't know how many times it will take to get that to sink into your brain. that is time that could have been used to add any number of kinds of content to the single player aspect....this IS AN EXTREEMLY SIMPLE CONCEPT WHAT IN GODS GREEN EARTH IS YOUR PROBLEM? DO "BONUSES" NOT COST MONEY AND TIME IN YOUR DREAMWORLD? and yes ill say it again your a fanboy if you think the multiplayer didn't cost them money and that it couldn't have been put to use on the single player in some way or fashion. i already know your answer and its gunna scream fanboy again...so how about you just bow out already....because your logic is flawed. you've taken the naughty dog bonus bait.
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#48 samuraiguns
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I seriously don't get this. U2 is quite possibly one of the best games to come out this gen and yet I've NEVER seen the "online players" number go higher then 13,000. I'm at a loss at how such a great game that received SO much hype here at GS and many other sites could have so few online. What's your take?

Nedemis
that those are not the real numbers...because this is peer to peer based maybe they get collectively who is in a say 50-100 mile radius and those are the players online. It is P2P but the rest is all a guess.
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#49 abdelmessih101
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apparently you didn't read what i wrote, where have i ever said the singleplayer was subpar? Ive clearly stated that the time they spent on multiplayer could have made the single player BETTER. machiavell8x8
You don't know that they sacrificed anything to make the multiplayer ... if they chose not to include multiplayer, this game may have very well come out a year ago. Who says they held anything back from the campaign just to include multiplayer? Do you have even a single suggestion as to HOW they could possibly have made the campaign better than what it is now?
FACT. DEVELOPING GAMES COSTS MONEY. FACT DEVELOPING MULTIPLAYER COSTS MONEY. FACT. THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT ON SINGLE PLAYER. SIMPLE CONCEPT.machiavell8x8
Again, you don't know that Naughty Dog wanted to spend more money on single player but could not. You don't know that they sacrificed anything or that they held any resources back from the creation/development of the campaign because of their decision to include multiplayer, so you can't say that money could've been spent on single player instead of multiplayer because you don't know what their decisions were in the first place.
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#50 abdelmessih101
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[QUOTE="machiavell8x8"]during the development process all kinds of things get changed. Look at dragon age and see what they did...day one DLC. they spent money and time, to extend the game in some way or fashion. clearly they could have spent that time and money to improve the singleplayer. they can candy coat it all they want, but the bottom line is that money and time could have been spent on the single player....bottom line case closed. and yes no 2 games are alike....what else are we sopposed to compare to lol....would you prefer if i compare MP to SP or something lol. were talking about MP, so yes im going to compare it to other MP games. so sorry if you don't like that then optout of the discussion._Cadbury_
The point is that uncharted 2s SP is 100% complete and polished to the best of their ability within reason (of course as with all games, some things/bugs can come up once the game is released).They already put as much effort into SP as they could.Do you want them to keep adding more crap to downgrade the quality of the game? because thats all it could have done.

This is my point as well. You claim they could've used more money and time and the campaign, but you don't know whether or not they planned to in the first place. For all we know, this game may have been released many months ago if they decided not to include multiplayer. Your point would be valid if Naughty Dog alloted a certain amount of time and money to Uncharted 2 as a whole and then had to split it between single and multi player development, but you don't know if that's what happened.