killzone 2 pros and cons (based on latest videos)

ok ive just watched the latest 4 videos on gametrailers showing new footage (if its a day or 2 old then sorry anyway) and im extremely mixed about the game now. i bought the first loved it for its story and felt it was only limited by the ps2 hardware. From the new videos ive got a few pros and cons and id like anyone else's opinion.

pro's

the environments look fantastic not just that but a great amount of destructible environments only adds to the experience

terrific sound, the effects and explosions are simply top notch,

attention to detail, how bodies sling over, blood trickles out realistically, the explosions as well, watching players comforting others while there dying is wow

persective, the whole 'watch your gun reload animation' really should be followed it adds to the game and goes with their whole movie like quality

cons

controls, the guy didnt look really good turning the wheel and show the 6 axis controls maybe he was just putting to much effort into it, it looked like it just slowed down the game and looked a bit slugish

gameplay, the gameplay itself doesnt look like its evolved much

aim, watch the videos closely even in zoomed mode the player seems to miss alot because of the kickback and even looks like hes missing the target while the reticle is right on the person

a:i, the enemy a:i doesnt seem to be a step up, the enemy has constantly turned there back on you the player and gives you a wide open shot! in another video 3 helghast step out of a vehicle and stand right in front of you with no shield or cover they just stand there taking potshots while your behind a concrete wall and there easy pickings.

of course i could be wrong ive only seen videos but based on the videos alone im mixed. the a:i and aim need to improvement or they need to show a video that disputes it because the gameplay is what its all about. anyone else agree disagree?

ok ive just watched the latest 4 videos on gametrailers showing new footage (if its a day or 2 old then sorry anyway) and im extremely mixed about the game now. i bought the first loved it for its story and felt it was only limited by the ps2 hardware. From the new videos ive got a few pros and cons and id like anyone else's opinion.

pro's

the environments look fantastic not just that but a great amount of destructible environments only adds to the experience

terrific sound, the effects and explosions are simply top notch,

attention to detail, how bodies sling over, blood trickles out realistically, the explosions as well, watching players comforting others while there dying is wow

persective, the whole 'watch your gun reload animation' really should be followed it adds to the game and goes with their whole movie like quality

cons

controls, the guy didnt look really good turning the wheel and show the 6 axis controls maybe he was just putting to much effort into it, it looked like it just slowed down the game and looked a bit slugish

gameplay, the gameplay itself doesnt look like its evolved much

aim, watch the videos closely even in zoomed mode the player seems to miss alot because of the kickback and even looks like hes missing the target while the reticle is right on the person

a:i, the enemy a:i doesnt seem to be a step up, the enemy has constantly turned there back on you the player and gives you a wide open shot! in another video 3 helghast step out of a vehicle and stand right in front of you with no shield or cover they just stand there taking potshots while your behind a concrete wall and there easy pickings.

of course i could be wrong ive only seen videos but based on the videos alone im mixed. the a:i and aim need to improvement or they need to show a video that disputes it because the gameplay is what its all about. anyone else agree disagree?

devildemondruid

With all your con's they stated on gametrailers during the video of all the fine tuning and polishing... specifically the A.I. ... They said that they are really working hard on improving the AI.

As for the cons I also agree with them to a small extent... remember this game is still very far from release and I think with your cons will be improvements that they are currently working on...

With cons aside I think the game is shaping up great and I can't wait... I hope it does better than its predecessor and I believe it definately has the ability to do so with the features they are implementing. Gameplay looks like it is definately shaping up just give it some more time

Ok about 2 of your cons. The gameplay... its a FPS what els were you expecting. Halo nor COD4 did anything special. In the end it comes down to if you like the characters,universe and story. On the AI account you know the devs could have put the difficulty low so the journalist could get a good feel for the controls and game itself without dieing a billion times.finalfantasy94

see that is a good point maybe the a:i was down because it may have been set on easy. And i know its a fps (i should have gone into a bit more detail on this) but i meant as far as it didnt look like there was much tactics involved like flanking and covering fire and stuff of that nature, there was a bit of leaning but the player never looked to try anything beyond it they said they were aiming for realism for the most part. But again if its on easy they dont need to use more tactics. Also i meant there was no 'oh my god that was awesome' moment while watching them the bit about shooting tanks and they go flying was pretty cool but besides that nothing gameplay wise that gripped me.

And i dont want to bring halo into this but just as a quick example in halo theres plenty of moments that make you go wow and also half life 2 especially episode two there are tons of these moments

Watch the developer walkthrough it's a lot better :) My impressions are well, the graphics are up there with top end pc's, it's simply amazing. It's ni-on impossible to revolutionise the fps gameplay but this looks like the most polished fps to date. The AI seems reasonably smart, except that time they took cover right next to the exploding barrell :)

In short I see nothing that will stop this from being a great game for PS3

yea i believe the game has only been played on god mode. and its in alpha stage isnt it? the A.I. isnt going to be that great. dont expect anything amazing but im sure the AI will be good. i hope they work on the effects a lil more. the smoke in the 05 trailer was amazing, i want to see that. or something better than how it looks now. Chromhounds, GTA IV and other games can make smoke look good. KZ needs it to.

EDIT: and the animations needs worked on. the grenade animation is horrible IMO. didnt read all of ur post yet, going to, so dont know if its been meantioned

The develper did claim it was on easy at judgement day. All the first party games seem like they are going to rock this year and will not be just "good" Now all we need is a few good 3rd party games which MGS 4 will be good and Valkyria Chronicles feels like a great game as well. I still say Haze is worth a look, If the JP of one of the most trusted sources about gaming gave an american shooter 9.0 and then you have some other american magazine, which is kind of crap, but they gave it the same score. I would say i'ts worth something.

The only problem is that this year is full of shooters for the ps3. Where is my Tekken 6 at.

yea i believe the game has only been played on god mode. and its in alpha stage isnt it? the A.I. isnt going to be that great. dont expect anything amazing but im sure the AI will be good. i hope they work on the effects a lil more. the smoke in the 05 trailer was amazing, i want to see that. or something better than how it looks now. Chromhounds, GTA IV and other games can make smoke look good. KZ needs it to.

EDIT: and the animations needs worked on. the grenade animation is horrible IMO. didnt read all of ur post yet, going to, so dont know if its been meantioned

Gokuja

the developer mentioned that the release date is february 2009 that gives 8 months (plus final month to print discs) to polish and tune it all. thats a fair amount of time ti fix bugs, graphic errors, little nuanes. but to upgrade and enhance the a:i?