KZ2 is too manly for me.

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#1 vanpham
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Recently, I've been having a blast playing AC2 and the Bad Company 2 Beta on my PS3. I just finished AC2 the other night, so I put back the game in it's case, and put it back into the game shelf were all my games go.

Right then, I noticed my Kilzone 2 copy that came with my PS3. It was collecting dust from the first time I played it, which was also the last time. Feeling the Holiday spirit still within me, I wanted to give Kilzone another chance.

I wiped off the dust, and popped the game into my PS3. Within 20 minutes, I knew exactly why this game was utter crap.

I admired the graphics, and loved the way lighting worked but then realized that... I hate the characters, I hate the story, I hate the fact that my weapons seemed like bb guns with the helghan absorbing so many shots, I hate the logic of it (there is no logic), I hate the uber-macho main characters that you're supposed to like, I hate the atmosphere of it (cliche), I hate the fact that enemies ALWAYS stand just in front of red barrels,

I hate the crappy cliche attempt of modeling Hitler.

I hate how they can safely (for the most part) send flying pods with a crew of 6 or so people down to Helghan to land (and they DON'T get blown up by anti air craft weapons!), but they can't just drop A-bombs instead.

I hate Kilzone 2.

Rico ruins the game for me, if I ever met anyone like him in real life, I would spit on him. Memorable quotes include something like

"Yeah let's kick ass!"
"**** politics!"

"Oh I'm not so good at history either."

"Listening to this **** makes me want to break something."

Reminds me of MTV's stupid stupid stupid new show, "Jersey Shore".

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#2 Kruiz_Bathory
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Cool story, bro.

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#3 FendersONLY
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Good for you. I thought MW2 sucked too yippee for us. Although KZ2 was better than Modern Warfare, but it was too loose for me. The controls just didn't handle well enough.
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#4 MushroomWig
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Agreed, lots of swearing and spitting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=astq3QG1D1Y&feature=channel

That's basically Killzone 2 in a nutshell. XD

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#5 TroubleMaker411
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DUDE!

you just listed the problem with every movie made too!

sometimes you gotta look past that crap and enjoy the game for what it is.................. ENTERTAINMENT

Personally, i thought the game was epic.

my favourite of the year, and i still play it on occassion!

Sorry bro, i gotta disagree with pretty much everything you said :)

**EDIT**

And please for the love of god....... stop complaining about how the controls sucked.

YOU DONT LIKE THEM, CHANGE THEM! you can't please everyone. i think guerilla games done a stellar job. it's not a COD clone. and thank god for that

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#6 G-Legend
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DUDE!

you just listed the problem with every movie made too!

sometimes you gotta look past that crap and enjoy the game for what it is.................. ENTERTAINMENT

Personally, i thought the game was epic.

my favourite of the year, and i still play it on occassion!

Sorry bro, i gotta disagree with pretty much everything you said :)

**EDIT**

And please for the love of god....... stop complaining about how the controls sucked.

YOU DONT LIKE THEM, CHANGE THEM! you can't please everyone. i think guerilla games done a stellar job. it's not a COD clone. and thank god for that

TroubleMaker411

I agree with you too, People love to bash on Killzone 2 but what about Gears of War it has the same macho-ism yet no one complains about that. And the controls aren't even an issue you get used to them after some time, personally I loved the game and the Online was really good too. Especially the Clan system.

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Gears was really uber-macho too, however the story was enhanced by Marcus's past with his father, and Dom's search for his long lost wife. It revealed the complications within these characters, and made them a lot more 3 dimensional, than the linear-cuss-mouths that appear in Kilzone 2.

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#8 caseystryker
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I've gotta agree with the TC. The game just doesn't do anything for me. It just felt like a bad made for tv sci-fi movie or something.

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[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

DUDE!

you just listed the problem with every movie made too!

sometimes you gotta look past that crap and enjoy the game for what it is.................. ENTERTAINMENT

Personally, i thought the game was epic.

my favourite of the year, and i still play it on occassion!

Sorry bro, i gotta disagree with pretty much everything you said :)

**EDIT**

And please for the love of god....... stop complaining about how the controls sucked.

YOU DONT LIKE THEM, CHANGE THEM! you can't please everyone. i think guerilla games done a stellar job. it's not a COD clone. and thank god for that

G-Legend

I agree with you too, People love to bash on Killzone 2 but what about Gears of War it has the same macho-ism yet no one complains about that. And the controls aren't even an issue you get used to them after some time, personally I loved the game and the Online was really good too. Especially the Clan system.

Gears of War had a somewhat good story if you ask me. I don't care much for Killzone 2 either, the story, characters, the setting(s) is to generic for me. The multiplayer is pretty fun the little I've played of it. Heck even the graphics didn't blow me away cause there are only two colors in that game brown and black.
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#10 TroubleMaker411
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you gotta look at it for what it is.

It's a WAR game!

People swear in combat. simple as that. now it may be a little OTT, but it's not unrealistic.

and you cant talk about too macho after the awful **** that was MW2 and it's machoism dribbling from my TV set.

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#11 samuraiguns
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Gears was really uber-macho too, however the story was enhanced by Marcus's past with his father, and Dom's search for his long lost wife. It revealed the complications within these characters, and made them a lot more 3 dimensional, than the linear-cuss-mouths that appear in Kilzone 2.

vanpham
The History of the ISA and Helghast is much, much deeper than may ever think, do some research on killzone the original story. Also, In war people curse ALOT at least every sentence...
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#12 TroubleMaker411
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again with the brown and black graphics?

jesus, it seems al people wanna do is bash this game!

the graphics were gorgeous. well made, beautifully rendered and excellent to look at.

and as much as i hated KZ1, i think the story of 2 was pretty good. and you show me one badguy this year that was more badass than Col. Radec

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#13 urdead18
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My favourite shooter this generation.

The good guys aren't the greatest but Radec. The Helghast and Visari are really awesome.

I love the weight, I love the animations, I love the way the Helghast die, I love the guns, I love the graphics, I love the atmosphere and I love the multiplayer.

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err..blog?
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#15 D-squared
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I'm with urdead ^^ this is my favorite shooter. The game is amazing nuff said. If you don't like it thats fine, go back to your beta or whatever else you may like but this rant seems more fitting for a blog....

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Sell me the game and well call it a day
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#17 crashndash
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good point it just isnt your kind of game, theres different thresholds for people and what they prefer. me personally i think there was a lack of blood =( and its not violent enough, but i do agree with the swearing theres just to much i cant even play it in the same room as my cousins when they are over lol.
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#18 MFbronz
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you gotta look at it for what it is.

It's a WAR game!

People swear in combat. simple as that. now it may be a little OTT, but it's not unrealistic.

and you cant talk about too macho after the awful **** that was MW2 and it's machoism dribbling from my TV set.

TroubleMaker411

for real!!! you dont see american soldiers over in iraq being nice to those guys do you??

excuse me mr terrorist, do you mind if i shoot you in the head? were here to free your country and push our beliefs on you....no you dont

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Blog it, I loved the game

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#20 Scianix-Black
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Bumping for the sake of agreeing with TC.

Game's too shallow.

I want a decent story to go along with my boringly overdone gameplay.

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Bumping for the sake of agreeing with TC.

Game's too shallow.

I want a decent story to go along with my boringly overdone gameplay.

Scianix-Black
u liked MW2's story :|
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#22 hot_shot_9
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[QUOTE="G-Legend"]

[QUOTE="TroubleMaker411"]

DUDE!

you just listed the problem with every movie made too!

sometimes you gotta look past that crap and enjoy the game for what it is.................. ENTERTAINMENT

Personally, i thought the game was epic.

my favourite of the year, and i still play it on occassion!

Sorry bro, i gotta disagree with pretty much everything you said :)

**EDIT**

And please for the love of god....... stop complaining about how the controls sucked.

YOU DONT LIKE THEM, CHANGE THEM! you can't please everyone. i think guerilla games done a stellar job. it's not a COD clone. and thank god for that

I agree with you too, People love to bash on Killzone 2 but what about Gears of War it has the same macho-ism yet no one complains about that. And the controls aren't even an issue you get used to them after some time, personally I loved the game and the Online was really good too. Especially the Clan system.

Yeah, i reckon only COD fanboys complain about the controls, i thought they were fine and everything in the game was good. I get how you didnt like it when the enemy was standing in front of cover instead of behind it but maybe its because it was the beginning so its supposed to be easy or maybe you didnt have the difficulty high enough, i did it on the mode one below elite on my first play through and i only put it down one for radec because i had to return it to the rental place that day.
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Recently, I've been having a blast playing AC2 and the Bad Company 2 Beta on my PS3. I just finished AC2 the other night, so I put back the game in it's case, and put it back into the game shelf were all my games go.

Right then, I noticed my Kilzone 2 copy that came with my PS3. It was collecting dust from the first time I played it, which was also the last time. Feeling the Holiday spirit still within me, I wanted to give Kilzone another chance.

I wiped off the dust, and popped the game into my PS3. Within 20 minutes, I knew exactly why this game was utter crap.

I admired the graphics, and loved the way lighting worked but then realized that... I hate the characters, I hate the story, I hate the fact that my weapons seemed like bb guns with the helghan absorbing so many shots, I hate the logic of it (there is no logic), I hate the uber-macho main characters that you're supposed to like, I hate the atmosphere of it (cliche), I hate the fact that enemies ALWAYS stand just in front of red barrels,

I hate the crappy cliche attempt of modeling Hitler.

I hate how they can safely (for the most part) send flying pods with a crew of 6 or so people down to Helghan to land (and they DON'T get blown up by anti air craft weapons!), but they can't just drop A-bombs instead.

I hate Kilzone 2.

Rico ruins the game for me, if I ever met anyone like him in real life, I would spit on him. Memorable quotes include something like

"Yeah let's kick ass!"
"**** politics!"

"Oh I'm not so good at history either."

"Listening to this **** makes me want to break something."

Reminds me of MTV's stupid stupid stupid new show, "Jersey Shore".

vanpham

Anything else you wanna add?

Anywaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

Yeah I've tried the demo and it kinda sucked for me. I never knew it was soooo different among the rest of fps games I've played

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#24 TroubleMaker411
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Yeah I've tried the demo and it kinda sucked for me. I never knew it was soooo different among the rest of fps games I've played

Nate_

I think right there is the problem!

It's different! its not Call Of Duty or Battlefield so no-one wants to play it.

i have played all the COD games and all the BF games, and i still reckon that so far, KZ2 is the best FPS game this generation

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#25 Scianix-Black
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[QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Bumping for the sake of agreeing with TC.

Game's too shallow.

I want a decent story to go along with my boringly overdone gameplay.

yarou1000

u liked MW2's story :|

No, MW2's story was excellent, if not a little forced. The action sequences were incredibly blockbuster and I was entertained the whole time.

Killzone 2 had none of this. Just awful dialog (other than Brian Cox's script), more of the same FPS gameplay that we've all seen and an almost absent story.

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#26 shadowkiller11
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DUDE!

you just listed the problem with every movie made too!

sometimes you gotta look past that crap and enjoy the game for what it is.................. ENTERTAINMENT

Personally, i thought the game was epic.

my favourite of the year, and i still play it on occassion!

Sorry bro, i gotta disagree with pretty much everything you said :)

**EDIT**

And please for the love of god....... stop complaining about how the controls sucked.

YOU DONT LIKE THEM, CHANGE THEM! you can't please everyone. i think guerilla games done a stellar job. it's not a COD clone. and thank god for that

TroubleMaker411
This.
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#27 SmashingX
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I kinda enjoyed the campaign. way to short. i liked the graphics and the controls were okay but the multiplayer imo was really bland. After i played kz2 for awhile i was dissapointed, felt ripped off for my money, and couldn't figure out how it took them half a decade to make it.

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#28 dakan45
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To be honest i enjoyed killzone 2, mainly i enjoyed the graphics and sci fi cod4 style, i like the way the story is going: "Eg we are the bad ass special foces and we kill the evil hitler forces" But i agree the story was a mess, i liked the cliche epic setting of the story but he story itself was a mess!!! Also the gameplay was just like you said, hard ai and they enemies taking way too many bullets to die. So maybe resistance 2 is pretty easy but still i enjoyed more because the gameplay felt better unlike killzone 2!!!
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#29 dakan45
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[QUOTE="yarou1000"][QUOTE="Scianix-Black"]

Bumping for the sake of agreeing with TC.

Game's too shallow.

I want a decent story to go along with my boringly overdone gameplay.

Scianix-Black

u liked MW2's story :|

No, MW2's story was excellent, if not a little forced. The action sequences were incredibly blockbuster and I was entertained the whole time.

Killzone 2 had none of this. Just awful dialog (other than Brian Cox's script), more of the same FPS gameplay that we've all seen and an almost absent story.

Yeah mw2 was not as politically stable as cod4 but it has many moments that made you feel things, which is the point of the compaign!!!! So i dissagree with people who say mw2 had a bad story!!!