Land Mines RUIN Warhawk!!!

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#1 Deathtransit
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Land mines are TOTALLY cheap and make CTF just plain annoying. You get your gear, get to the flag and then your dead. There's no sportsmanship and no pitting of skills, just hoping you get lucky and see it or that someone else goes ahead and clears them i.e gets blown up before you. TOTALLY lame and I hope the next one DOES NOT have them, because I love the game otherwise, and it makes me not want to play since I'm a CTF freak. UT3 (my fave MP-it's my first UT) is so much better on CTF since it's an HONEST challenge. YES I'm serious!!!
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#2 warbmxjohn
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I haven't played warhawk but I would assume you could shoot a few rounds around the ground by the flag to check for mines? Maybe that tactic would prove beneficial if it is effective. :)
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#3 Deathtransit
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I haven't played warhawk but I would assume you could shoot a few rounds around the ground by the flag to check for mines? Maybe that tactic would prove beneficial if it is effective. :)warbmxjohn
It's not that easy, first you have to see it, or more likely them, then you have to aim precisely, which is pretty much impossible because the bad guys are shooting at you and/ or trying to knife you.. Come back AFTER you've played it.
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#4 warbmxjohn
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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]I haven't played warhawk but I would assume you could shoot a few rounds around the ground by the flag to check for mines? Maybe that tactic would prove beneficial if it is effective. :)Deathtransit
It's not that easy, first you have to see it, or more likely them, then you have to aim precisely, which is pretty much impossible because the bad guys are shooting at you and/ or trying to knife you.. Come back AFTER you've played it.

Sorry to try and help...
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#5 piano_pimp
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a grenade is a great way to get rid of a couple mines without aiming. Mines are easy to spot once you know what to look for, plus you can always hear them before you set them off, so i don't see what the big deal is
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#6 trenno2529
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i stopped playing warhawk because my ps3 buggered up and i lost the expansion pack, but i plyed it a lot.

ii never really found them that bad. u've just gotta look 4 em. it's part of the game.

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#7 Deathtransit
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a grenade is a great way to get rid of a couple mines without aiming. Mines are easy to spot once you know what to look for, plus you can always hear them before you set them off, so i don't see what the big deal ispiano_pimp
They only bug me in CTF since the base gets LITTERED with them.
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#8 Deathtransit
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[QUOTE="Deathtransit"][QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]I haven't played warhawk but I would assume you could shoot a few rounds around the ground by the flag to check for mines? Maybe that tactic would prove beneficial if it is effective. :)warbmxjohn
It's not that easy, first you have to see it, or more likely them, then you have to aim precisely, which is pretty much impossible because the bad guys are shooting at you and/ or trying to knife you.. Come back AFTER you've played it.

Sorry to try and help...

I didn't mean to sound rude. Sorry. Thanks for the reply!
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WHen running into the enemy base, toss a grenade in front of you. Not that hard. Doesn't have to be precise. And if they have multiple mines around the flag, it'll clear em out. Really, putting multiple mines is kinda amateur... more than 1 is just a waste, they'll blow each other up. Better to take your 4 mines and put one at the flag, and the others at strategic points of entry, preferably on ceilings or behind corners, so that noobs will just run in, blow up, and then go onto internet forums and complain about how mines are ruining the game.
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#10 Deathtransit
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WHen running into the enemy base, toss a grenade in front of you. Not that hard. Doesn't have to be precise. And if they have multiple mines around the flag, it'll clear em out. Really, putting multiple mines is kinda amateur... more than 1 is just a waste, they'll blow each other up. Better to take your 4 mines and put one at the flag, and the others at strategic points of entry, preferably on ceilings or behind corners, so that noobs will just run in, blow up, and then go onto internet forums and complain about how mines are ruining the game.ianuilliam
Haha good one! Sorry, that'd work if they weren't frakking EVERYWHERE! They're cheap and lame, and do not add to the experience.
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#11 warbmxjohn
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[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="Deathtransit"][QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]I haven't played warhawk but I would assume you could shoot a few rounds around the ground by the flag to check for mines? Maybe that tactic would prove beneficial if it is effective. :)Deathtransit
It's not that easy, first you have to see it, or more likely them, then you have to aim precisely, which is pretty much impossible because the bad guys are shooting at you and/ or trying to knife you.. Come back AFTER you've played it.

Sorry to try and help...

I didn't mean to sound rude. Sorry. Thanks for the reply!

Cool. Just trying to help.. But that guy who said trying a grenade, maybe thats a good idea?..
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]WHen running into the enemy base, toss a grenade in front of you. Not that hard. Doesn't have to be precise. And if they have multiple mines around the flag, it'll clear em out. Really, putting multiple mines is kinda amateur... more than 1 is just a waste, they'll blow each other up. Better to take your 4 mines and put one at the flag, and the others at strategic points of entry, preferably on ceilings or behind corners, so that noobs will just run in, blow up, and then go onto internet forums and complain about how mines are ruining the game.Deathtransit
Haha good one! Sorry, that'd work if they weren't frakking EVERYWHERE! They're cheap and lame, and do not add to the experience.

Although I suppose it's only that island level where it's really hard to clear/avoid them.
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#13 Deathtransit
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[QUOTE="Deathtransit"][QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="Deathtransit"][QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]I haven't played warhawk but I would assume you could shoot a few rounds around the ground by the flag to check for mines? Maybe that tactic would prove beneficial if it is effective. :)warbmxjohn
It's not that easy, first you have to see it, or more likely them, then you have to aim precisely, which is pretty much impossible because the bad guys are shooting at you and/ or trying to knife you.. Come back AFTER you've played it.

Sorry to try and help...

I didn't mean to sound rude. Sorry. Thanks for the reply!

Cool. Just trying to help.. But that guy who said trying a grenade, maybe thats a good idea?..

For most areas yes, and I've done that, but the island map is really hard to clear since you have to go inside a building with a mine trail all the way up. I was just really sick of the cheap shots, and would rather actually fight my way to death
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#14 trasherhead
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you just suck, pay attention and shoot them. You don't hate mines untill you have played against me anyways ;)
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#15 sportwarrior
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A charged lightning gun will take care of pretty much any mine issues you might face in the vicinity of the flag. Plus you might end up getting a few kills at the same time.
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#16 spanky333
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I die alot in Warhawk. But then sometimes I live.

Then you die!!

I don't recall using mines yet though. I am only an Airman though, so...

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i lol'd

way to go champ

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#18 neovalkyr
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As someone pointed out grenades are your friend :)
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#19 areads
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I don't know why people complain about certain weapons and tactics in warhawk. "i hate mines. I hate people who camp in turrets" If the devs put it in there then use it. If your not having much luck then work out a different tactic. I change my tactics all the time. Thats the the beauty of this game. If I see that someone is a little mine happy then I'll airstrike the area first. Plus if you turn your volume up high enough you will hear the mines beep when you get close. Some people will hide and keep placing mines. Just make a mental note of who it was who killed you and hunt them down. I hate to blow my own trumpet but I rock at this game.
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#20 sanchez-74
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They can be an annoyance. I use them sometimes and they are a lame way of getting kills. I think the beep should be louder and the radius of the beep should be increased slightly. Because you can't see them until you are on them, and if they are slightly hidden you got no chance. I'd rather not use all my grenades sorting out mines because they can be put anywhere and they are usually most effective in places people think wouldn't be targetted. Just face the facts games will always have at least one lame weapon or overpowered weapon. Just send angry letters to the devs that's your only hope.
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They can be annoying BUT a grenade clears them out...I rarely die with a mine now...only if I'm totally unaware..
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I actually agree about mines- CTF games are just so littered with mines that I find that the only effective method of clearing them out is with an electricty strike in a Warhawk- and I'm a pretty lousy pilot.

I'm not saying Incognito should totally do away with them, but I think for CTF games, two things need to be changed. A) There has to be a finite number available per team and make it changeable if you're hosting games. B) If the person who threw down the mine dies, the mine disappears rather quickly. I noticed that they pretty much stay indefinately, so people really go overboard with mining their bases.

I love the game, but I kind of steer clear of CTF on the Asian servers because they're already ungodly difficult as it is.

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#23 HellsAngel2c
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erm, flame throwers are awesome against mines- they clear all mines which are in range of killing you as well as easily killing some of the players who stand next to the flag with a knife.
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#24 Nene33
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A charged lightning gun will take care of pretty much any mine issues you might face in the vicinity of the flag. Plus you might end up getting a few kills at the same time.sportwarrior

He's right, Lightning gun, any of the bigger rockets, will clear any mines in the area.

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#25 justin_06
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a grenade is a great way to get rid of a couple mines without aiming. Mines are easy to spot once you know what to look for, plus you can always hear them before you set them off, so i don't see what the big deal ispiano_pimp

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#26 Laxman816
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I think they're fun and fun to try to avoid. The only thing I hate is when someone comes over to your tower base on the omega map and rigs up all the warhawks with them. I do a few circles around a warhawk before getting in now lol.
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#27 Stryder_18
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They are annoying but that's how u get the minesweeper trophy lol. I usually just throw some gernades to get most of them.
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#28 jyoung312
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TC, I kindly disagree. In fact, I think land mines make CTF in Warhawk awesome. It is really easy to get rid of mines with a flamethrower or cluster bomb or lighting bomb or a nade since they are generally easy to see if you are thinking while playing. Most advanced players and teams clear the area of mines before going in and think of "hey where would the defense put the mines" and thus they know where the mines are so that forces the defense to come up with new and interesting strategic places to put mines. Just because you rush in and get killed doesnt mean that mines kill CTF...it just means CTF requires STRATEGY. Maybe you are playing too much UT3, a run and gun twitch shooter, that you dont realize not all games, especially huge team games like warhawk, are about running in guns blazing and getting out with the flag. Trust me I have played in advanced servers and watched as teams coordinating cluster bombing warhawks to clear mines right before a two guys in a jeep roll in to take the flag.
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#29 jyoung312
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I think they're fun and fun to try to avoid. The only thing I hate is when someone comes over to your tower base on the omega map and rigs up all the warhawks with them. I do a few circles around a warhawk before getting in now lol.Laxman816
lol love creative mine placement it makes you soooo paranoid in Warhawk, which is fun because when someone gets you you just have to admit they outsmarted you.

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I actually agree about mines- CTF games are just so littered with mines that I find that the only effective method of clearing them out is with an electricty strike in a Warhawk- and I'm a pretty lousy pilot.

I'm not saying Incognito should totally do away with them, but I think for CTF games, two things need to be changed. A) There has to be a finite number available per team and make it changeable if you're hosting games. B) If the person who threw down the mine dies, the mine disappears rather quickly. I noticed that they pretty much stay indefinately, so people really go overboard with mining their bases.

I love the game, but I kind of steer clear of CTF on the Asian servers because they're already ungodly difficult as it is.

Vampyronight
Ya, i've gotten flags just cuz I was lucky and someone shot lightning right before I got there. And I agree they should at least be changeable by the host
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#31 Deathtransit
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jyoung-- My mic usually sounds like gibberish so it's hard to coordinate. Flamethrowing while fighting my way to the flag usually gets me killed. But you guys have given me a couple options to hopefully make it less frustrating. Thanks! I just HATE cheap shots, another reason I never got into COD4.
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#32 ronniepage588
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why dont you just shoot them first lol i never let those things get me more than once in a match
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#33 Deathtransit
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why dont you just shoot them first lol i never let those things get me more than once in a matchronniepage588
Cuz while I'm shooting mines in the base people are shooting me. Keep in mind they only really annoy me on CTF.
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#34 psyum
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run with a flame thrower that will deal with the land mines, throw granades on every corner and keep a sharp eye
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#35 TheCraving
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Well they make a bleeping noise. Just stop and listen for a second and if you hear them move slowly and look for them.
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#36 email2003
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Land mines are TOTALLY cheap and make CTF just plain annoying. You get your gear, get to the flag and then your dead. There's no sportsmanship and no pitting of skills, just hoping you get lucky and see it or that someone else goes ahead and clears them i.e gets blown up before you. TOTALLY lame and I hope the next one DOES NOT have them, because I love the game otherwise, and it makes me not want to play since I'm a CTF freak. UT3 (my fave MP-it's my first UT) is so much better on CTF since it's an HONEST challenge. YES I'm serious!!! Deathtransit

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#37 mosespippy
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Flamethrower is the best ground weapon, and has the range to take out a mine without killing yourself. Charged lightning clears all mines in the radius of the shot, which on some small bases is the size of hte entire home base. There are sneaky ways into every base, that are not usually mined. That's the entire thing about Warhawk. Once you know the little details and tricks, you have a major advantage. Zones is better than CTF anyway.
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#38 TheMagicThing
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i like land mines. u should stop or check carefully when ur at obvious spots where land mines are put. example the bridge in edcudia
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#39 warrner11
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I guess noone is realy hearin the TC but i feel his pain on this topic. People actually place mines EVERYWHERE!!! And its impossible to try to move into a base on foot shootin or throwin grenades at em cause u're automaticly a bullet pincusion or a crater in the ground. U need to move into a base for the flag as fast as u can or basicly stealth your way in from behind to avoid a barrage of @$$woopin from the op-team. Eucadian Empire is almost impossible to get a good flow of CTF goin cause the gap between base gate and bridge is always a mine field.
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#40 Laxman816
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[QUOTE="Laxman816"] I think they're fun and fun to try to avoid. The only thing I hate is when someone comes over to your tower base on the omega map and rigs up all the warhawks with them. I do a few circles around a warhawk before getting in now lol.jyoung312

lol love creative mine placement it makes you soooo paranoid in Warhawk, which is fun because when someone gets you you just have to admit they outsmarted you.

off topic OH and LAXMAN love your sig!!!WE ARE PENN STATE!!! I'm a PSU student but am abroad in Sweden right now so I am missing our great season

Haha thanks it is an awesome season. I think we've totally got this one against Wisconsin tomorrow, definately feeling a national championship this year!

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#41 Twoleggedpirate
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Really? ... i mean there are so many ways to take them out but the best way is getting in a warhawk and charging up the electric thing and shooting at where your going to land and what not =O besides it often kills them instead XD
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Land mines are TOTALLY cheap and make CTF just plain annoying. You get your gear, get to the flag and then your dead. There's no sportsmanship and no pitting of skills, just hoping you get lucky and see it or that someone else goes ahead and clears them i.e gets blown up before you. TOTALLY lame and I hope the next one DOES NOT have them, because I love the game otherwise, and it makes me not want to play since I'm a CTF freak. UT3 (my fave MP-it's my first UT) is so much better on CTF since it's an HONEST challenge. YES I'm serious!!! Deathtransit

lol i love mines lol just throw granades at the flag and at "popular mines places" u'll be fine

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#43 ck02623
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Never bothered me. You should probably find another game.
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#44 rovi209
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I never heard the mine beeping, did they just that that in there?

anyway from all the time I spend playing warhawk 100+ hours I've died from a land mine almost everytime, heck almost every game lol. I guess I'm just the player who just rambos in lol.

I know land mines are annoying but play a lot of games and you know exactly where it is, usally by flags, bases, doors,briges, ect. really you'll see those mines in the exact same spot almost everytime, so when you feel theres a mine in a spot there usually is one.

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#46 abdelmessih101
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Huge disorganized chaotic cluster****s ruin Warhawk - in other words, Warhawk ruins itself. :|

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#47 odin2019
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Glad to see I'm not the only one who has come across a fault of Warhawk. Pretty much the only good thing about Warhawk is the Warhawk. And even then it has a problem seeing as with the machine gun on the warhawk takes way too many shots to kill a person on foot.
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The only thing i hate are air mines =(
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#49 Deathtransit
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I guess noone is realy hearin the TC but i feel his pain on this topic. People actually place mines EVERYWHERE!!! And its impossible to try to move into a base on foot shootin or throwin grenades at em cause u're automaticly a bullet pincusion or a crater in the ground. U need to move into a base for the flag as fast as u can or basicly stealth your way in from behind to avoid a barrage of @$$woopin from the op-team. Eucadian Empire is almost impossible to get a good flow of CTF goin cause the gap between base gate and bridge is always a mine field.warrner11
thank you. you understand. CTF would be better without them
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#50 Deathtransit
Member since 2007 • 3086 Posts
Glad to see I'm not the only one who has come across a fault of Warhawk. Pretty much the only good thing about Warhawk is the Warhawk. And even then it has a problem seeing as with the machine gun on the warhawk takes way too many shots to kill a person on foot.odin2019
Well, I really like it besides LMs. It's unique.