sony said they well loose exclusives. they said sony well just make more exclusives.trust me their coming.just buckle ur seatbelt. coming from a place well lets just say they r always on top of movies music and tv why not games?people allways talking about the same games their r a lot more AAA games coming www.psu.com got alot more ps3 then here
Not saying sony will not rise to the occasion with the games and its exclusives, no one stays the champion for ever, where nintendo used to be now sits the PS, I am not too worried about the exclusives issue myself becuase i know they will never lose some of the best ones they have. they are just giving up ones that were already bound to end up there anyway
see this is the gen that third parties will go multi plat because of money issues. what i don't get is when sony said it is not about exclusive is because they now were the geme industrie is heading. it is funny watching the fanboys say look sony going to have less exclusives it is not there falt that it cost triple the cost sence snes days. they have to make a profit to keep them a float so they go multi plat. sony will make there exclusives in house but are going to let the third-parties decide which coulsole to but it on.
High cost for console and software development = Limited install base and need for developer to sell lots of games. That's why a lot of exclusives are going to jump ship. They'll have to to make a profit on their expensive games. Namco just said recently that any game that doesn't sell at least 500K copies loses money. That means if 25% of all current PS3 owners don't buy a particular game, it's a failure financially. So since it's easier to sell more copies if you have the greater install base afforded by being multi-platform, developers that aren't sure if they have a homerun AAA title are going to go to 360 and maybe PC. And what limits the install base, thereby limiting the number of exclusives the PS3 can hold on to? The price of the PS3, which is so expensive due to the Blue Ray drive, which is a new pricey technology. When former exclusives show up on the 360, Sony's descision to go with the Blue Ray drive will be the primary reason. They got greedy with their Trojan Horse strategy, and 360 owners will benefit from this.
High cost for console and software development = Limited install base and need for developer to sell lots of games. That's why a lot of exclusives are going to jump ship. They'll have to to make a profit on their expensive games. Namco just said recently that any game that doesn't sell at least 500K copies loses money. That means if 25% of all current PS3 owners don't buy a particular game, it's a failure financially. So since it's easier to sell more copies if you have the greater install base afforded by being multi-platform, developers that aren't sure if they have a homerun AAA title are going to go to 360 and maybe PC. And what limits the install base, thereby limiting the number of exclusives the PS3 can hold on to? The price of the PS3, which is so expensive due to the Blue Ray drive, which is a new pricey technology. When former exclusives show up on the 360, Sony's descision to go with the Blue Ray drive will be the primary reason. They got greedy with their Trojan Horse strategy, and 360 owners will benefit from this. donalbane
did you now it cost money and alot of time compressing on the dvd so the blu-ray will benit fit the devs on that. blu-ray does not hirt any thing dev wise.
[QUOTE="donalbane"]High cost for console and software development = Limited install base and need for developer to sell lots of games. That's why a lot of exclusives are going to jump ship. They'll have to to make a profit on their expensive games. Namco just said recently that any game that doesn't sell at least 500K copies loses money. That means if 25% of all current PS3 owners don't buy a particular game, it's a failure financially. So since it's easier to sell more copies if you have the greater install base afforded by being multi-platform, developers that aren't sure if they have a homerun AAA title are going to go to 360 and maybe PC. And what limits the install base, thereby limiting the number of exclusives the PS3 can hold on to? The price of the PS3, which is so expensive due to the Blue Ray drive, which is a new pricey technology. When former exclusives show up on the 360, Sony's descision to go with the Blue Ray drive will be the primary reason. They got greedy with their Trojan Horse strategy, and 360 owners will benefit from this. GARRYTH
did you now it cost money and alot of time compressing on the dvd so the blu-ray will benit fit the devs on that. blu-ray does not hirt any thing dev wise. They do spend a lot of money on the R and D for streaming technology, but this cost doesn't add hundreds of dollars to the price of the 360. ;)
I'm not sure you understand my point. I wasn't saying blue ray is more expensive to develop for. I was saying Blue Ray drives make the console expensive, limiting the install base, thereby tempting devs to work on multiple platforms to get their expensive games in as many homes as they can. ALL next gen games are expensive to make. Not just Blue Ray based ones.
sony said they well loose exclusives. they said sony well just make more exclusives.trust me their coming.just buckle ur seatbelt. coming from a place well lets just say they r always on top of movies music and tv why not games?people allways talking about the same games their r a lot more AAA games coming www.psu.com got alot more ps3 then here smokeb4
The exclusive they are talking about, is GTA and Assassin Creed. But we got two exclusive games if you think about it.. Resistance and soon to come out Heavenly Sword.
Sony isn't stupid, they'll fight to keep exclusivity if they think it is going to be profitable. Rockstar probably demanded some absurd amount of money from Sony to keep exclusivity and make up for the problem of currently low install-base. Sony is also banking on the fact that it has potential AAA titles in the pipeline that are all first party games (RFOM2, R&C, Heavenly Sword, etc...) To Sony, losing an exclusive isn't as devestating as it is to microsoft.
see this is the gen that third parties will go multi plat because of money issues. what i don't get is when sony said it is not about exclusive is because they now were the geme industrie is heading. it is funny watching the fanboys say look sony going to have less exclusives it is not there falt that it cost triple the cost sence snes days. they have to make a profit to keep them a float so they go multi plat. sony will make there exclusives in house but are going to let the third-parties decide which coulsole to but it on.GARRYTH
Exactly, and since the Ps2 had the largest userbase last gen and was the most popular console in Japan, it had the most exclusives to lose.
Take Virtua Fighter 4 for example, putting it on the Ps2 must have been a no-brainer for Sega. Now that the Ps3 isn't even released in Europe and the 360 has a larger userbase they did the most reasonable thing and put VF5 on both consoles.
Until Sony gets in enough households, EA recently pledged to focus most of their attention elsewhere. It's pretty significant when the biggest publisher in the world turns their back on the PS3. This is all because of it's lower than hoped install base, which as I've said 3 times now, is because of the expensive blue ray drive.
The PS3 has only lost 2-3 exclusives. The 360 has lost just as many. We're still at the beginning of the gen... we'll see more exclusives as the userbase of the consoles grow. It's also worth noting that at this point, the PS3 still has the most exclusives announced for it in the upcoming year.
Until Sony gets in enough households, EA recently pledged to focus most of their attention elsewhere. It's pretty significant when the biggest publisher in the world turns their back on the PS3. This is all because of it's lower than hoped install base, which as I've said 3 times now, is because of the expensive blue ray drive.donalbane
EA has not pledged their attention elsewhere. What they HAVE said is that they will be spreading support evenly across all 3 consoles.
[QUOTE="donalbane"]Until Sony gets in enough households, EA recently pledged to focus most of their attention elsewhere. It's pretty significant when the biggest publisher in the world turns their back on the PS3. This is all because of it's lower than hoped install base, which as I've said 3 times now, is because of the expensive blue ray drive.Sgt_Hale
EA has not pledged their attention elsewhere. What they HAVE said is that they will be spreading support evenly across all 3 consoles. Well I just heard that on the most recent 1upyours show, so who knows...
Also the PS3 doesn't have a lower than hoped userbase, that is a pretty ridiculous concept considering the console just launched less than 4 months ago. The fact is that the console is selling significantly better than a lot people thought it would and is now putting aside a lot of the fears people had pre-launch. The Wii is the ONLY console to sell faster than the PS3 in the entire history of consoles.... so to think that it is not meeting expectations is silly.
I much prefer the creative small studio games to the likes of EA titles. I would much prefer see a slew of new IP's with non-traditional execution and gameplay over last-gen with a new coat of wax.
[QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"][QUOTE="donalbane"]Until Sony gets in enough households, EA recently pledged to focus most of their attention elsewhere. It's pretty significant when the biggest publisher in the world turns their back on the PS3. This is all because of it's lower than hoped install base, which as I've said 3 times now, is because of the expensive blue ray drive.donalbane
EA has not pledged their attention elsewhere. What they HAVE said is that they will be spreading support evenly across all 3 consoles. Well I just heard that on the most recent 1upyours show, so who knows... 1up has not been known for the most reliable news.... EA's comments can be found on gamesindustrybiz.com however. The CEO at EA has also stated they predict the PS3 for the win this gen, but in a much closer race than last gen.... an opinion being shared by quite a few industry professionals now. Trojan horse or not, HDTV owners LOVE blu ray and now Sony has shown that they are still focused on enhancing the gaming experience as well. As a sidenote, HDTV owners would have loved hd-dvd's just as much had Microsoft had the foresight to make them standard in their machines. Microsoft pretty much guaranteed Sony a win with blu ray which will only give the PS3 that much more value in the public's perception within the next 2-3 yrs. Considering how well the console is already doing at its current price point, the line up of games, & the extensive feature set of the console... Sony's strategy was much riskier, but in the end they still get the win & we get a better console.
[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"][QUOTE="donalbane"]Until Sony gets in enough households, EA recently pledged to focus most of their attention elsewhere. It's pretty significant when the biggest publisher in the world turns their back on the PS3. This is all because of it's lower than hoped install base, which as I've said 3 times now, is because of the expensive blue ray drive.Sgt_Hale
EA has not pledged their attention elsewhere. What they HAVE said is that they will be spreading support evenly across all 3 consoles. Well I just heard that on the most recent 1upyours show, so who knows... 1up has not been known for the most reliable news.... EA's comments can be found on gamesindustrybiz.com however. The CEO at EA has also stated they predict the PS3 for the win this gen, but in a much closer race than last gen.... an opinion being shared by quite a few industry professionals now. Trojan horse or not, HDTV owners LOVE blu ray and now Sony has shown that they are still focused on enhancing the gaming experience as well. As a sidenote, HDTV owners would have loved hd-dvd's just as much had Microsoft had the foresight to make them standard in their machines. Microsoft pretty much guaranteed Sony a win with blu ray which will only give the PS3 that much more value in the public's perception within the next 2-3 yrs. Considering how well the console is already doing at its current price point, the line up of games, & the extensive feature set of the console... Sony's strategy was much riskier, but in the end they still get the win & we get a better console.I think the 360 owners, particularly the ones with SD TVs, are quite happy without HD-DVD and an extra $200 in their wallets. MS doesn't really care if HD-DVD wins because it's not their baby. Sony created Blue Ray, so they want to recoup all that R and D money.
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