Man of the moment explains why GTA IV is not an exclusive to Sony PS3

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#1 dancinaps
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http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/931.html


Every once in a great while, pure logic and reason comes shining through the BS like a beacon of human hope...hope that we're not all bowing to hype and unfounded statements.

Sony has taken plenty of flak for not keeping certain games exclusive, especially big-name titles like Grand Theft Auto IV. Up to this point, we've really had no official response from Sony as to exactly why this happened. However, in speaking at a bloggers' conference, Phil Harrison addressed the issue very simply when asked about GTA IV appearing on both the 360 and PS3.

First off, he emphasized that third-party exclusives would "come in good time." That freshly announced PlayStation Edge toolset for developers, designed to greatly ease the development process for the PS3, should greatly help matters. A recent example of the new kit was on display with the recent Killzone 2 tech demo at the GDC, and the kit should be available some time this fall.

Furthermore, Harrison made it plain that the PS3 was not currently suitable to be an exclusive home to a premiere installment like GTA IV. "I don't think PS3 has the install base to support Rockstar's investment in GTA IV on its own," Harrison told the assembled blogging crew. Rockstar needs a giant audience to see a return on what is likely a massive investment, and the current installed PS3 userbase simply isn't big enough. If they want to sell plenty of copies, it needs to be available on the 360 as well, but this clearly means things could change in the future.

The 360 has been out for well over a year, after all. Obviously, when there are more PS3s out there, it'll be that much easier to snag some high-profile third-party exclusives. We think this makes perfect sense, and all the negative talk about a lack of exclusives early on is easily explained by this situation. See? Reason and logic. Not so hard.



Very rational and humble response. Kudos to Phil Harrison, I think from now on Phil should exclusively handle all the public relation matters, how could anyone hate this guy! 
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#2 marojado
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Yeah, i passed comment on this earlier. I think its a really gutsy thing to do, but it reflects well on Sony. Major kudos to the guy.
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#4 BenderUnit22
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the man speaks the truth, but that won't shut up fanboys.
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#5 dancinaps
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xbox 360 sucks only because dvd`s site 9 gb.Limonadi
please try to avoid using remarks like that in this thread, this thread has nothing to do with hating on other consoles just for the sake of starting a war of words.
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#6 Ultimate-Playa
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[QUOTE="Limonadi"]xbox 360 sucks only because dvd`s site 9 gb.dancinaps
please try to avoid using remarks like that in this thread, this thread has nothing to do with hating on other consoles just for the sake of starting a war of words.

It brings me to wonder if Halo 3 will be released on HD-DVD instead 0_0 I can't image Bungie fitting everything on a 9GB disc, after all their real vision of Halo...is much bigger than a DVD9.
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#7 Ultimate-Playa
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[QUOTE="dancinaps"][QUOTE="Limonadi"]xbox 360 sucks only because dvd`s site 9 gb.Ultimate-Playa
please try to avoid using remarks like that in this thread, this thread has nothing to do with hating on other consoles just for the sake of starting a war of words.

It brings me to wonder if Halo 3 will be released on HD-DVD instead 0_0 I can't image Bungie fitting everything on a 9GB disc, after all their real vision of Halo...is much bigger than a DVD9.

i know, a bit off-topic. - back to the point. I would have to give Phil some kudos for admitting the truth, and all that goody bs. He can't brag more after he just revealed the PS Home :)
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#8 marojado
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[QUOTE="dancinaps"][QUOTE="Limonadi"]xbox 360 sucks only because dvd`s site 9 gb.Ultimate-Playa
please try to avoid using remarks like that in this thread, this thread has nothing to do with hating on other consoles just for the sake of starting a war of words.

It brings me to wonder if Halo 3 will be released on HD-DVD instead 0_0 I can't image Bungie fitting everything on a 9GB disc, after all their real vision of Halo...is much bigger than a DVD9.

I envy you and your rediculously sweet setup.
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#9 dancinaps
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[QUOTE="dancinaps"][QUOTE="Limonadi"]xbox 360 sucks only because dvd`s site 9 gb.Ultimate-Playa
please try to avoid using remarks like that in this thread, this thread has nothing to do with hating on other consoles just for the sake of starting a war of words.

It brings me to wonder if Halo 3 will be released on HD-DVD instead 0_0 I can't image Bungie fitting everything on a 9GB disc, after all their real vision of Halo...is much bigger than a DVD9.

No, let me just address this issue, even though it's off topic, Microsoft has already stated that they will not be using HD-DVD format to run/publish games. People have a choice to purchase the add-on just for the sake of watching movies. back to the original topic, the man got guts to come and state the truth when he knows critics and few anti-Sony game sites are lurking around looking for every possible angle to criticise the ps3.
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#10 DanC1989
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I thought this anyway. It's all about the money!
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#12 dancinaps
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I thought this anyway. It's all about the money!DanC1989


Care to elaborate on that?
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#13 EmielGr
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Good thing he's admitting it like that without trying to come up with excuses.
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#14 killerelijah
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this is sad...but ps3 will have better graphics :D
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and they sholud have made it for pc
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I like Phill Harrison. He surely is the most balanced guy of Sony and not such fruitcake like Ken Kutaragi (With all do respect to the man for creating the Playstation line, he shouldn't handle PR)

Kaz Hirai isn't really bad, but bit of a bore. At least with Phill you can laugh a bit (LOD's).

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#17 dancinaps
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I like Phill Harrison. He surely is the most balanced guy of Sony and not such fruitcake like Ken Kutaragi (With all do respect to the man for creating the Playstation line, he shouldn't handle PR)

Kaz Hirai isn't really bad, but bit of a bore. At least with Phill you can laugh a bit (LOD's).

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I like Phill Harrison. He surely is the most balanced guy of Sony and not such fruitcake like Ken Kutaragi (With all do respect to the man for creating the Playstation line, he shouldn't handle PR)

Kaz Hirai isn't really bad, but bit of a bore. At least with Phill you can laugh a bit (LOD's).

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Exactly what i would say.
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#19 dancinaps
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I quite like Kaz, he is not as charming as Phil but there is something about him that forces you to listen to him. I personally have a theory about that, I personally think he uses some kind of hypnosis technique.
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#20 lhbchen
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Kutaragi is a better CTO rather than CEO I believe. Kaz feels like he's a little bit serious, just like the Japanese culture. And Phil, he's really easy going and don't care laughing at himself, that creates a good atmosphere for a show like this.
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#21 ShinAkuma777
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*claps* that means we might get GTAV as an exclusive lol
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#22 rosko123
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I think i is very brave to admit and it does make perfect sense. HOWEVER I do feel that GTA4 is a system seller just like GTA3 was for PS2 if they managed to get it exclusive you would not be able to get a PS3 for love nor money which is already going to be the case in Europe : (. It's just a case of time though till the exclusives come rolling in but it's just a shame as having to share them is not going to ween any 360 or wii fans away from there consoles.
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#23 dancinaps
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*claps* that means we might get GTAV as an exclusive lolShinAkuma777
neh, I think GTA franchise will stay miltiplat from now on. when you start eating caviar you'll never want to go back to sausage & egg.
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It's a great excuse. However now he can say something like if we somehow lose another exclusive like MGS4 or Final Fantasy, not that exclusives make much difference to me anyway...
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[QUOTE="dancinaps"][QUOTE="Limonadi"]xbox 360 sucks only because dvd`s site 9 gb.Ultimate-Playa
please try to avoid using remarks like that in this thread, this thread has nothing to do with hating on other consoles just for the sake of starting a war of words.

It brings me to wonder if Halo 3 will be released on HD-DVD instead 0_0 I can't image Bungie fitting everything on a 9GB disc, after all their real vision of Halo...is much bigger than a DVD9.



I've heard it may be double disc.
Anyways, I'm surprised Harrison said that but with the new toolkit and finally providing developers with excellent tools, I think this will go a long way for them.
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#26 Wii26
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It's a great excuse. However now he can say something like if we somehow lose another exclusive like MGS4 or Final Fantasy, not that exclusives make much difference to me anyway...Eman5805


What do you exactly think are the chances of them losing those exclusives? Many have stated that Capcom is going to force MGS4 to go multi-plat even though Hideo stated last year at E3 that this game will be the last MGS and will be a PS3 exclusives. As for Final Fantasy, only game to go XBOX was FF11 and that was horrible. Chances are that both of these going multi are .00000001%. Slim chance but I don't see it happening.
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#27 dancinaps
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[QUOTE="Eman5805"]It's a great excuse. However now he can say something like if we somehow lose another exclusive like MGS4 or Final Fantasy, not that exclusives make much difference to me anyway...Wii26


What do you exactly think are the chances of them losing those exclusives? Many have stated that Capcom is going to force MGS4 to go multi-plat even though Hideo stated last year at E3 that this game will be the last MGS and will be a PS3 exclusives. As for Final Fantasy, only game to go XBOX was FF11 and that was horrible. Chances are that both of these going multi are .00000001%. Slim chance but I don't see it happening.

Capcom forcing MGS4 to go multi-plat! how is that even possible?
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I love phils attitude. He comes off as this "yes, we're here to have fun, not be in a console war" kinda guy. But once the masses get PS3's and we get our exclusives on, he's gonna be like "oohhhhh mega leet pwnage on 360!". ....imo
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#29 dancinaps
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I love phils attitude. He comes off as this "yes, we're here to have fun, not be in a console war" kinda guy. But once the masses get PS3's and we get our exclusives on, he's gonna be like "oohhhhh mega leet pwnage on 360!". ....imoblitzinger123
heh, who wouldn't? after all thats their job.
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#30 BackFlip101
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I like the way Harrison handles things

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#31 G-Legend
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I like the way Harrison handles things

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Agreed :D

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[QUOTE="Eman5805"]It's a great excuse. However now he can say something like if we somehow lose another exclusive like MGS4 or Final Fantasy, not that exclusives make much difference to me anyway...Wii26


What do you exactly think are the chances of them losing those exclusives? Many have stated that Capcom is going to force MGS4 to go multi-plat even though Hideo stated last year at E3 that this game will be the last MGS and will be a PS3 exclusives. As for Final Fantasy, only game to go XBOX was FF11 and that was horrible. Chances are that both of these going multi are .00000001%. Slim chance but I don't see it happening.

That's why I said if we(Sony) somehow lose another exclusive I don't see that happening either.

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Capcom....thats a really good peice of business strategy to be secretly behind MGS all these years under the false alias of Konami..
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#34 dancinaps
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Capcom....thats a really good peice of business strategy to be secretly behind MGS all these years under the false alias of Konami..VinnoT
  :lol: That exactly what I was thinking, how they fooled me all these years I'll never know.