Metal Gear Solid: Rising- Raiden aint that Bad !!!!!!!

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#1 x8VXU6
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ok I no Raiden aint as badass as Snake or the Big Boss but he aint that sorry as character, What ppl need to know is that he was a ROOKIE in MGS 2. I mean did u seen how bad ass he was MGS 4, Now I want MGS rising to still be like MGS 4 just u play as raiden in that suit he is in.

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#2 Eazy1891
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yeah i hear you we're pretty much on the same page....i mean i liked MGS2, i dont know why everyone hates on Raiden....

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#3 Brad1821
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aspects of his appearance not withstanding, i have always liked raiden, i don't buy that he survived 4, as if he wouldn't be crushed by that boat!. but but otherwise i have always had a soft spot for him. But yeah, no problems playing as him again in Rising, always wanted to play as the ninja, perhaps he fought vamp between 2 and 4 as Vamp didn't seem to surprised by his appearance. that be cool if you could actiually control one of their fights.

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#4 Prinze
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Yeah, I liked Raiden, even in MGS2. I would assume that most peoples' instant hatred for him belonged to the fact that MGS2 substituted him for playing as Snake, which really caught people off guard.

Rising has a lot of potential for a game not directed by Kojima - granted they follow the same formula that Kojima would follow.

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#5 funsohng
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i hated raiden in mgs2 and i just didnt like mgs2 as much as other mgs but i have to admit raiden's fight with gekkos and vamp was one of the best (if not the best) cut scenes in MGS4.
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#6 xmitchconnorx
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I could careless about playing as Raiden. His charcter in MGS2 was annoying and whinny but none of that really affected how the game played. I'm more worried that it won't be Kojima directing. Therefore, Peace Walker is the MGS game that's catching my eye.
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#7 amsfm6
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Is this an issue? I think anyone who played 4 is fully onboard with Raiden regardless of how you felt about 2.

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ok I no Raiden aint as badass as Snake or the Big Boss but he aint that sorry as character, What ppl need to know is that he was a ROOKIE in MGS 2. I mean did u seen how bad ass he was MGS 4, Now I want MGS rising to still be like MGS 4 just u play as raiden in that suit he is in.

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Ok now I haven't actually finished MGS4 yet but I saw the cutscene where Raiden twirled around Geckos attached to his feet like some sort of impromptu ball and chain from hell and I must say I would have no gripes playing as anyone that bad ass. Also to Hideo Kojima. Wielding swords that are held in the characters feet was MY idea! I had that idea back when I was like 10 and was like "I'm going to draw comics in the future and be the best comic writer EVAR!". Then I learned I couldn't draw or write but still, I had it first.
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#9 adizorz
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whats with people and bad asses why do games all ways have to have badass characters, i mean mario isn't badass, ameratsu isn't badass, even link isn't badass. Why do gamers always hate the characters that i always think are the most human? like leo in zone of the enders and raiden.

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#11 amsfm6
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whats with people and bad asses why do games all ways have to have badass characters, i mean mario isn't badass, ameratsu isn't badass, even link isn't badass. Why do gamers always hate the characters that i always think are the most human? like leo in zone of the enders and raiden.

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Because everyone wants to be a badass.

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#12 Denji
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It was never Raiden that annoyed me. It was ROSE.:lol:

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#13 x8VXU6
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It was never Raiden that annoyed me. It was ROSE.:lol:

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lol I didnt like her to she talked forever

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#14 snowman6251
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whats with people and bad asses why do games all ways have to have badass characters, i mean mario isn't badass, ameratsu isn't badass, even link isn't badass. Why do gamers always hate the characters that i always think are the most human? like leo in zone of the enders and raiden.

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ameratsu feels the most human to you... I see something inherently flawed with that. And I would say pretty much all those characters with the exception of maybe Mario are indeed, badass. I mean Ameratsu is a freaking God.
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#15 Locked1089
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Is this an issue? I think anyone who played 4 is fully onboard with Raiden regardless of how you felt about 2.

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I'm honestly the other way inclined. He was a fantastic character in MGS2, MGS4 ruined him.
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#16 Tlahui
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sorry, but he was even lamer in MGS4. The nunja suit and cheesy action/dialogue didnt do it for me, plus his loopholed story (which I hope rising covers...) AND he allways apeared to get his as s kicked and become a burden. The only decent thing he did in the game is stopping arsenal gear from illing snake and having a GREAT death scene, but what do you know, hes back half an hour later shooting thunder out of his behind.
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#17 2mrw
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i loved him iin MGS2 and MGS4, the only problem is his blonde hair,

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#18 kingdre
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I never jumped on the Raiden-hating bandwagon either; sure I was disappointed not to be able to play as Snake but I kind of like his character. MGS4 made me like him even more.

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#19 josh494
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I'm one of the few people who like MGS2 Raidan. Everyone said he complained to much. SNAKE complained thewhole dang way through MGS1. "Colonol you liar. Colonol whatdo you mean? "Why didn't you tell me the enemy had guns?" So they're equal there. Everyone was just mad Raidan wasn't snake. I might not get Rising cause it'll be hack'n'slash(like snakes nightmare from MGS3) probably. And thatdoesn't sound like MGS to me.
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Raiden was a very human character, and for that he was cool with me. Kind of like Shinji from Evangelion. It made the show into what it is. His "OMG NINJA MODE!!!" thing in MGS4 felt a bit forced in a way that Kojima looked like he was grasping at straws to make Raiden a respectable character in the eyes of the fans. The only thing I didn't like about Raiden was how much he relied on his superiors in MGS2. ...oh, and that he took over Snake. ...oh, and that he slipped on bird poop all the time ...oh, and that whole "nerd" thing. It's Node, Raiden. ...oh, and that he couldn't remember something so stupidly simple from Rose. ...oh, and that he was URINATED on. ...oh, and that he does cartwheels when everyone knows that it's probably the least optimal method of tactical manoeuvring. ...oh, and that he has to hold onto his junk while walking when he's inside of Arsenal Gear. Aw forget it, I still hate his guts.
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#21 Floppy_Jim
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I disliked the little fairy in MGS2 but by god, he did kick ass in MGS4. I'm definitely hyped for Rising.
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#22 robby_home
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Raiden used to be such a wimp now he's a bad ass!! not much information has been released on the game so far, there's not that much to speculate any ways :)
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#23 groundgamer
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I think Rising will rock. I don't think it will be as stealth as previous games, but there will be an element in there. Raiden rocks.
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#24 GANGSTASAN
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I agree with all who says Raiden is NOT a bad character. Sheesh, I get quite pissed that people hated MGS 2 only because you had to play as Raiden. Get real...

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I disliked the little fairy in MGS2 but by god, he did kick ass in MGS4. I'm definitely hyped for Rising.Floppy_Jim
lol he was a rookie in MGS 2, he only did VR missions before that so he didnt go through wat solid snake had to

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#26 Young_Charter
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Let's Not just underestimate Kojima's Planz.....lol I just wonder hows the story gonna b like...
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Let's Not just underestimate Kojima's Planz.....lol I just wonder hows the story gonna b like...Young_Charter
I hope he tells us how did Raiden get that suit and wat happen to him after MGS 2

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[QUOTE="Young_Charter"]Let's Not just underestimate Kojima's Planz.....lol I just wonder hows the story gonna b like...x8VXU6

I hope he tells us how did Raiden get that suit and wat happen to him after MGS 2

Exactly that...I hope it'll be a game like when he thinks and talks about what went down the Nine years after Big Shell.. I wish that Hideo Kojima makes a game about during those Nine years....Unless Raidens part is not the aftermath of MGS4... The Aftermath of Bigshell..... -I wanna know what happened when he met up with BIG MAMA when searching for Sunny and finding Big Boss (Solidus actually) body -And what you said..how he get so damn baddazz...he probably went through mad trainings or probably got in a accident....I think this game is going to be more than what it seems...Hideo Kojima will never make a game Half Baked...Plus on top of that he is still the lead of the project hes just not too deep into it
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[QUOTE="x8VXU6"]

[QUOTE="Young_Charter"]Let's Not just underestimate Kojima's Planz.....lol I just wonder hows the story gonna b like...Young_Charter

I hope he tells us how did Raiden get that suit and wat happen to him after MGS 2

Exactly that...I hope it'll be a game like when he thinks and talks about what went down the Nine years after Big Shell.. I wish that Hideo Kojima makes a game about during those Nine years....Unless Raidens part is not the aftermath of MGS4... The Aftermath of Bigshell..... -I wanna know what happened when he met up with BIG MAMA when searching for Sunny and finding Big Boss (Solidus actually) body -And what you said..how he get so damn baddazz...he probably went through mad trainings or probably got in a accident....I think this game is going to be more than what it seems...Hideo Kojima will never make a game Half Baked...Plus on top of that he is still the lead of the project hes just not too deep into it

Yeah I no he aint going to let them mess up a MGS game, I hope its still sleath like the rest of them and deep also

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#30 Young_Charter
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[QUOTE="Young_Charter"][QUOTE="x8VXU6"]I hope he tells us how did Raiden get that suit and wat happen to him after MGS 2

x8VXU6

Exactly that...I hope it'll be a game like when he thinks and talks about what went down the Nine years after Big Shell.. I wish that Hideo Kojima makes a game about during those Nine years....Unless Raidens part is not the aftermath of MGS4... The Aftermath of Bigshell..... -I wanna know what happened when he met up with BIG MAMA when searching for Sunny and finding Big Boss (Solidus actually) body -And what you said..how he get so damn baddazz...he probably went through mad trainings or probably got in a accident....I think this game is going to be more than what it seems...Hideo Kojima will never make a game Half Baked...Plus on top of that he is still the lead of the project hes just not too deep into it

Yeah I no he aint going to let them mess up a MGS game, I hope its still sleath like the rest of them and deep also

And I wanna hear a litle bit of Drama with him and Rose...lol (sorry but I just like a Soap Opera moment) cuzz dont forget he did leave dat B*tch a few times...lol Im just loving... but i damn sure dont think it deserves to touch Xbox 360......well we'll see....we'll see....I think MGS4 would be poppin all over again if they made a Trophy Patch for it..
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#31 bernardoneves
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Raiden is a codename, like snake

so you ever think that it could be his son

look at there eyes

raiden

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#32 Young_Charter
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oh sh*t... u gotta good point...but think about it Raiden did make his body go cyper and back so who knows....but that was a good point
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#33 x8VXU6
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Raiden is a codename, like snake

so you ever think that it could be his son

look at there eyes

raiden

bernardoneves

yeah it could be and wat happen to his left eye

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#34 x8VXU6
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[QUOTE="x8VXU6"]

[QUOTE="Young_Charter"] Exactly that...I hope it'll be a game like when he thinks and talks about what went down the Nine years after Big Shell.. I wish that Hideo Kojima makes a game about during those Nine years....Unless Raidens part is not the aftermath of MGS4... The Aftermath of Bigshell..... -I wanna know what happened when he met up with BIG MAMA when searching for Sunny and finding Big Boss (Solidus actually) body -And what you said..how he get so damn baddazz...he probably went through mad trainings or probably got in a accident....I think this game is going to be more than what it seems...Hideo Kojima will never make a game Half Baked...Plus on top of that he is still the lead of the project hes just not too deep into itYoung_Charter

Yeah I no he aint going to let them mess up a MGS game, I hope its still sleath like the rest of them and deep also

And I wanna hear a litle bit of Drama with him and Rose...lol (sorry but I just like a Soap Opera moment) cuzz dont forget he did leave dat B*tch a few times...lol Im just loving... but i damn sure dont think it deserves to touch Xbox 360......well we'll see....we'll see....I think MGS4 would be poppin all over again if they made a Trophy Patch for it..

I say it does needs to be on the 360 I know alot of ps2 fans that jumped to the 360 and they didnt get to play mgs 4

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#35 Young_Charter
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[QUOTE="bernardoneves"]

Raiden is a codename, like snake

so you ever think that it could be his son

look at there eyes

x8VXU6

yeah it could be and wat happen to his left eye

Nanomachines Sharigan...lol hopefully he didnt loose it again by getting hit with another damn boat..

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#36 LOVERPS3
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if i love MGS so why i hate Raiden!!!! he is my friend:)

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#37 Young_Charter
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if i love MGS so why i hate Raiden!!!! he is my friend:)

LOVERPS3
hmmmm.....we need an exclusive person for the PS3....Someone hotter than Altair...Dante....Nero...Raiden...The Prince of Persia......
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#38 zbdyx
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In Playstation Official Magazine it said the game was gonna be stealth like the other MGS
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In Playstation Official Magazine it said the game was gonna be stealth like the other MGSzbdyx
it did ? What month ?
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#40 navstar29
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Regardless of what he becomes, Raiden was (from MGS2) and still is pathetic scum and now he's just scum in a ninja suit. If anyone's badass its the Ninja Suit.

But playing the Ninja Suit should be fun.

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#41 x8VXU6
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In Playstation Official Magazine it said the game was gonna be stealth like the other MGSzbdyx
PLZ TELL ME UR TELLING THE TRUTH

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#42 YekDastan316
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raiden killed mgs2. he was a girl then and hes a girl now....hes such a emo now too. always complainin and what not. i want rising to fail, just to show kojima never again put a mgs game onto the 360......i dont want to play as big boss on psp...i want to play as him on my god damn ps3......i really thought MGS5 was going to be announced...

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#43 Mickeyminime
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i heard that the MGS Rising was only going to be on Xbox? Is it gona be on PS3 =O. I think the hate thing against Raiden is because you didnt play snake much in MGS2, Snake was the guy who brought the game to life, and to not play him made the game rather bad. But i enjoyed it =]
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#44 hakanakumono
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It was never Raiden that annoyed me. It was ROSE.:lol:

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Whenever they talked to each other the game went to crap.

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#45 Young_Charter
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Man when ya'll see that hott ass intro with Raiden jumpin from out the seen and his blade cuttin everybody with blood in the air with the MGS:Rising Title popping up ya'll gonnna be o yes boy! lol watch i can see it now
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#46 Ninja_Zombie83
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I think MGS rising will be about Jack becomming Raiden, and just like they wouldn't let you disarm a whole mob in the game like Snake did in the cut-scenes, that they won't let you go all ninja on mobs in the game like Raiden did in the cut-scenes either. There never was much of a combat tactic selection in any MGS, you point your gun and shoot, roll, or punch. Heck you can't even jump. The whole ninja combat seems a bit out of reach from here. Chalk up another sneaking game, which isn't bad at all! I'm also betting that the story won't backtrack before MGS4, since the whole xbox thing has been announced. They won't mention a game that people didn't have access to. I.E. How are you going to flashback to a scene from a game you never got to play? ***SPOILER*** Jacks son playing Raiden also seems pretty far fetched, being every possible bad guy from the MGS series dies in MGS4, there arn't any loose ends to tie up. Rising will probably be its own game with its own plot and will rarley go back to MGS2. **SPOILER** in MGS4, when Snake asked Raiden where he has been, Raiden said he was busy finding something for someone. **SPOILER/** It makes sense that Jack gets recruted by Big Mama, and she helps Jack become Raiden. Even if you didn't like Jack, its not going to matter. Its a new MGS game. You could play the game as Octocon or Sunny at this point and the game will sell based on MGS reputation alone. You will play it and you will like it.
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#47 G-Legend
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I wanna know the Story, and see gameplay footage before I judge. I personally like the NEW cyborg raiden as oppose to the old lame one, but I'd still wanna see the game before getting excited about it.

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#48 bernardoneves
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[QUOTE="bernardoneves"]

Raiden is a codename, like snake

so you ever think that it could be his son

look at there eyes

raiden

x8VXU6

yeah it could be and wat happen to his left eye

well thats something to find out on the actual story :P

but still is something to think about

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#49 Rakuho
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It was never Raiden that annoyed me. It was ROSE.:lol:

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thank you!

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#50 snowman6251
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The whole kid thing does kinda make sense. They did say the cycle repeats a lot. But would Raiden's son really look exactly the same as his father including all the cyborg stuff?